Actually, I did mean it. I mean, that I wanted to, not that I would do it. He was a sort of bullying type, who thought that every time he got a whim, it should be satisfied. But after he started shoplifting, and getting into other trouble with the law, my parents began to see my side.

There's no magic to a warrant, as it's dependent on the opinion of a single person, a judge, and some judges are prone to readily hand out warrants. The added pressure from all the publicity regarding law enforcement and justices disregarding warning signs before the latest series of mass shootings has to influence everyone involved.

With the various forms of red flag laws creeping through the state and federal systems, expect to see lots of false arrests, based on malice, fear, or a political agenda. Sadly, for all the hype about people that could be prosecuted for false testimony, most are forgiven when they plead fear for themselves or others. This witch hunt is only starting, and when some falsely accused begin to resist, the ensuing violence will be used as further justification for persecution.

True, the idea of measured response and responsibility, let alone mature response and dealing with anger, is lost on the last three generations poisoned by the cabal programming to believe everyone has every right and no responsibility.

Yes, a good perspective on data and facts, Doc. My concern is that there is more sinister cpabilities used to engender such people into doing these things, and they need to get caught before they get to the point of action. So, if the symptoms appear, and are validated, then action is warantted. The issue I hear you folks saying is "what constitutes validation?"Just like the presumption of innocence, when you have several witnesses who say they saw someone do something, yet the defense pleads not guilty. Then they get off on a technicality.

Well, yes, in a way. The article was on how their lunacy will just lead to what they falsely say they are trying to stop (when they really are wanting to engineer more of it)...

Well stated!

Sad thing is she may not be able to afford a good attorney and get stuck with a government appointment.

Exactly! And you didn't mean it. Imagine today if you said it and it cost you a lawyer to defend yourself. You made my point perfectly!

After hearing the video, and reading carefully, the charge was based on the statement of a single person. Might that person be lying? She did say the person was afraid of guns, and she showed her a picture of herself shooting to let her know there was nothing to be afraid of. Given the fear of guns pounded into kids these days, maybe the other girl's fear of guns made her scared of her coworker, and she felt it was her duty to make sure the guns were taken away.

Is this an example of what can happen once "red flag" laws are in place? There's no corroborating evidence, other than the accused's possession of guns, but it was sufficient to not only confiscate the legally owned firearms, but arrest her.

The reason she was suspended from school was for carrying a knife. She said she had been bullied. Was she carrying the knife as self protection?

Lots of material for a defense attorney, and I hope she gets a good one.

You realize you're quoting the government...(?)

I know Jefferson advocated for it. That was a tragic mistake.
the proper function of government is to protect man from force (including fraud) and violence, and to punish same. Other things should be left to the individual citizens. Also, education teaches thought processes, and that is something which should definitely not be under the control of the government.

What do you fly?

I can deal with the concept of public education (I think even Jefferson advocated for it), but it should be controlled and financed locally according to local needs and resources.
Why can't policies be like the gravity that takes everything I unintentionally drop to the floor (to the darkest, most difficult place to retrieve), i.e., to the most local level.

And I think that sometimes parents want to be relieved of their responsibility (the more shame to them). But we need to get rid of public education.

Amen.

If I had a nickel for every time I said I wanted to kill my brother...

As I stated prior, she was arrested and that action requires a warrant. Warrants must be issued based on evidence. That the reporters did a shoddy job of journalism and didn't look up the warrant leaves us at a loss as to its actual contents and its supplied justification. What is left now is for the prosecution to justify the actions of law enforcement and obtain a conviction. If she is exonerated based on lack of evidence, so be it. prima faciae, the elements of assault are satisfied in my opinion: a verbal threat with intent and materials to carry out that threat.

Still nothing in those 2 article to indicate apprehension. Someone stated she said it without any proof provided. She said she didn't say it. Must have more than one person's word to rake someone over the coals.

Please check the definition using "apprehension." One doesn't have to be holding a weapon at the time to be committing assault. (This is one of the reasons why "brandishing" a weapon can also get you thrown in jail, although if it isn't accompanied by a verbal threat its a tough sell.)

There used to be something in most areas of America called community. Who knows who their neighbors are, anymore? What used to be community problems (and community solutions) have people now turning to ever larger government agencies to fix, such agencies having no clue.

Yes, please check description #2 specifically the word "immediate". Had she been holding a weapon at the time there is a possibility of immediate harm. This doesn't appear to be the case. And it all could have been made up. Not that anyone ever does that, said Judge Kavanaugh and thousands of other people. Lives destroyed because of a false accusations. And accusers seem to run off Scott Free. You are not going to sell me without facts to back it up and they are not in the 2 articles.

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This disease does not happen all by itself...much of it just might be on purpose.

"I don't agree that preemptive actions are the only option."
I agree and will add that there's a difference between preemptive actions to stop common crimes like traffic violations, tax evasion, or recreational drug use and one-in-a-million crimes like shooting up a school. I'm against fishing / entrapment for any crimes, but at least with tax evasion or drugs, you could catch a lot of "guilty" people. The nature of one-in-a-million crimes is preemptive efforts will be mostly false positives, mostly gov't intruding on law-abiding citizens.

'1. She may have been joking - The fact that she told someone who immediately went to the police supports this. If it were a serious and rational plan, she wouldn't have shared it.
2. The person who gave the msg to the police could have fabricated it. I'm sure the authorities will verify it's authenticity.
3. Assuming it was a real plot to shoot random people, it would be good to see cold data on much this type of crime has increased. My sense is it has, but I don't know. If you showed me one tragic story after another about healthy young people being killed or paralyzed by slipping on stairs, it might feel like a sudden epidemic.

Hallow, Russpilot,
I do not know how to do it here. But if you give me an email address, I can send you a short video when in which a gentleman explains some the root causes of such violent actions. I think he is close to the mark.
Best wishes.
Sincerely,
Maritimus