Something Is Very Odd About This Kinda Climate Change Article

Posted by  $  allosaur 1 month ago to Politics
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This article filled with climate change blather about an ancient sunken forest that repeatedly rises from a Welsh beach should now be an impossible event.
Four decades ago Climate Change then called Global Warming so-called oo-wee scientific experts predicted rising sea levels would have erratically changed worldwide coast lines and swamped seaside cities by now.
For a post category, me dino designated "Politics" so as not to insult "Science."
Being a teeter-totter two-legged dino, me appreciates a sense of fair balance in me posts.
SOURCE URL: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/ancient-sunken-forest-wales?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_06_18_2019_Not_USA)&mc_cid=b186f6371b&mc_eid=724a4e0849


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  • Posted by Arthgallo 1 month ago
    It was 65 degrees when I left for work this morning, by noon it was nearly 90 degrees, based on climate change, it should be nearly 120 degrees by the time I get off work unless we do something this afternoon! We're all going to die by 6 PM.
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    • Posted by  $  1 month ago
      Not to worry. Trust our elite betters. Some months ago An Occasional Cortex hath proclaimed we have 12 years to live. That means we have 11 whole years and some months to live before we gag on the heat while choking immersed in sea water after we all retreat to Colorado between the oncoming rise of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.
      OMG! Look out for that shark!
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  • Posted by  $  WilliamShipley 1 month ago
    I have noticed that the next step has been made. At first it was "Global Warming", but then it didn't really warm up, so it's become "Climate Change". But even though the climate always changes, that isn't working so now it's "Climate instability".

    So it doesn't have to get warmer, the climate doesn't have to change, but if you have no tornadoes for a couple of years and then you have a bunch in one year you have "climate instability".

    Who ever said that weather was the same every year?
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    • Posted by  $  Solver 1 month ago
      And before that they were squawking about another Ice Age.

      I think they’ll keep the term “climate change” for their “science” studies since that is literally unfalsifiable.
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      • Posted by  $  1 month ago
        During the late Fifties, me old dino recalls being taught in school of speculation that we have yet to emerge from the Ice Ages and that another big freeze
        with another southbound ice sheet may be coming along.
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        • Posted by DavidT 1 month ago
          Since we haven't gotten back to the point where wine grapes will grow in London, as they did on the 1200's, since the little ice age, I'm not sure how they can claim it's too warm now.
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 1 month ago
    Hey we've had islands disappearing and reappearing for years. What's so mysterious about that?
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    • Posted by  $  1 month ago
      That was no longer viewed as mysterious when the emissions of mankind and cows began to receive all the blame. It's the reappearing part that blows right past the blaming buffoons. Such as those reappearing remnants of a forest on that Welsh beach.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 month ago
    From the article: "Then, roughly 4,500 years ago, Bates says, the trees seem to have died out as water levels rose."

    SEEEEE!!! There was global warming even way back then!!!! Must have been all that North American buffalo flatulence! Nothing new here. Move along nothing to see...
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    • Posted by lrshultis 1 month ago
      45 centuries * 8 inches per century is 360 inches or 30 feet of sea level rise. The 8 inches is about the rise per century if about the same as today's rate.
      That 30 feet is plenty to flood out some low level lands.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 1 month ago
        Greetings, Irshultis. My remarks are meant to illustrate (with a bit of humor) if 45 centuries ago the forest was forced into extinction by drowning due to a rising sea level, then that level must have risen for some reason. Why not "global warming" even when it couldn't have possibly been anthropogenic? If not man, then what? Following today's idiotic rhetoric, massive flatulence may be the answer. Anyway, isn't it interesting that the sea level has receded in May 2019 enough to expose the formerly drowned forest? Following the "global warming" hysteria predicting rising sea levels one would think the forest would be even deeper. Also interesting, the article suggests that over the past 4500 years this "forest" has appeared and disappeared many times meaning the seas have changed depth many times as well.

        I still say the best indicator of global warming and rising seas will be when the rich elite have a fire sale on beach front property.
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  • Posted by  $  mminnick 1 month ago
    If one looks at the geological and historical records as well as some of the recent archeological data the statement "There is Climate Change" is undeniably true. The climate is gong to change.
    It appears there is a cyclic pattern to warming and cooling the cause of which is not even remotely understood by anybody.
    To deny Climate Change is silly. To state it is going to end the world is equally silly. The earth has gone through multiple cycles and it still remains.
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    • Posted by  $  1 month ago
      Round and round cyclic climate change goes until millions of years from now the sun runs out of hydrogen, massively swells and burns the atmosphere and the oceans off this planet.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 1 month ago
    Anything will do for the Climate Change phonies.

    Just to think that they don't do any useful work but keep fishing for "news" they can use to "prove" that humans are behind Climate Change.

    The climate changes. That is inherent in the name.
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    • Posted by  $  1 month ago
      Yep, me dino has said this before and I'll say it again.
      The climate always changes.
      The climate has always been changing throughout world history.
      Just ask the sun-burned dinosaurs and the freezing woolly mammoths.
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      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 1 month ago
        Climate is an average of Thirty five years of Weather. The weather always changes climate not so much.
        : the average course or condition of the weather at a place usually over a period of years as exhibited by temperature, wind velocity, and precipitation.
        There are approximately five main climate types on Earth:
        Tropical
        Dry
        Temperate
        Continental
        Polar
        Climate is the average weather conditions in a place over a long period of time—30 years or more. And as you probably already know, there are lots of different types of climates on Earth.
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        • Posted by  $  1 month ago
          Think for watching Trump's opening reelection run speech on Fox tonight (with very brief glances at the nasty glowering crap CNN and msnbc were up to), I'd like to point out that there are also two political climates.
          One is charged with positive energy and the other with negative energy.
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          • Posted by  $  exceller 1 month ago
            Yes, it is good to watch the Trump rallies and the positive energy flowing from it.

            What is pulsating from ANY gathering of the left is hatred, ill will, and an anti-life miasma that you want to get as far away from as possible.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 1 month ago
    I am so sick of science ignorant politicians using the UN Agenda 21, as if it were their invention, when the UN used it to get control of people back in the 90s! None of these folks mention the sun scycles, and absolutely none mention the coming switching of the Earth magnetic poles. Those are the cause of real climate change, not CO2.
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    • Posted by RevJay4 1 month ago
      Thank you for mentioning the continuously altering sun cycles and the Earth magnetic poles gradually switching positions.
      Talk about making a difference. That'll make a hugely difference in a lot of things, I'd imagine.
      Of course, most of us won't be around to see it actually be complete, but its interesting to contemplate.
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  • Posted by Lucky 1 month ago
    Quote, “The fact that we’re getting more storms.."
    Wrong. Stats from insurance and other sources show a declining trend of big storm disasters.
    Pardon if I comment without a careful reading, but this climate change causes rising sea levels as seen by a sunken Welsh forest rising! Typical re-gressionist logic.
    allosaur says -"climate change blather". That say it all.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 1 month ago
    I wonder if they even realize that their analysis has nothing whatsoever to do with climate change and actually supports an entirely different narrative altogether if one looks at the timeline.

    Me, I'd be interested in getting a hold of one of those stumps for some creative woodworking. You'd get some truly gnarly woodcraft with absolutely beautiful lines from one of those stumps...
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  • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 1 month ago
    Well, my friend Dino, the overall fear of our coastlines changing in the future is a correct one but not because of man nor carbon...it's be cause of the nature of natural cycles. The next cycle could be a really bad one or a not so bad one.
    I for one, no matter how much we learn of this 12000 year cycle, no matter how good our predictions are, I feel that we'll have not a clue till it happens.
    But we should leave a clear and decisive message to our survives that in no way, was it our fault nor the next earthly catastrophe be their fault..............just in case al gore survives...LOL
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    • Posted by  $  1 month ago
      For some reason what you've written has jarred a memory.
      I'm a teenaged dino watching TV alone in the living room of my parents' home in Dothan, Alabama, during the mid-Sixties
      I'm watching the 6PM news, sports and weather on Dothan's Channel 4 WTVY located on the edge on the east side of a sprawled out very sizable town, my home being on the west side. Outside a summer storm is booming thunder and pouring down rain.
      The weather segment comes on TV and at some point the weatherman says, "There is no chance of rain today in Dothan."
      For liking to sit on the floor way back then, me young dino actually rolled on the floor laughing.
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      • Posted by  $  exceller 1 month ago
        I had a similar experience her in CA, but the other way around.

        The forecast was 100% rain for the day but there was not one cloud in the sky and the sun was out full force.

        We talked about it the day after, one guy asking: "What do forecasters get their salary for?" He said they were making a six figure but I doubt that.
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      • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 1 month ago
        I remember the worst tornado Connecticut ever had...it took out several small New England towns. Towns I had to travel through to get home to where I lived.
        I got in my truck one afternoon leaving work, the hair on my neck standing straight out told me something didn't feel quite right as I panned the skies, even though it was blue and the sun was out...as I started the truck, the radio came on and I caught the end of a Public Service Message saying: The North East Tornado warning has been canceled...I Drove home underneath 3 tornados, whipping trees, leaves and telephone poles. I could hardly see driving in the wooded country side, the country side the next morning, would no longer be there.
        When I got home, I couldn't believe the stuff I found in the bed of my truck.
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        • Posted by  $  1 month ago
          Me dino glad you're still around to tell the tale.
          Had a similar driving experience though warned that F5 hell was on its way. Had just left the house en route to a tornado shelter when telephone poles started to shimmy and shake while clumped electric lines crashed heavily down and falling trees chased me back home in a old Honda Accord. Good thing. The 2011 monster tornado that wrecked part of Tuscaloosa and plenty of other places in Alabama missed my home by a quarter of a mile. Almost drove straight into an interception point where I coulda done a Dorothy to find Munchkin Land but never The Gulch.
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          • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 1 month ago
            I'll never forget that feeling I had before I left work that day...
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            • Posted by  $  exceller 1 month ago
              I had a Nature experience that'll stay with me as well.

              It was the "Big Earthquake" of 1989, killing 67 people in the SF Bay area.

              It was 5:04 PM local time and I was at work. Three of us was talking in the aisle when the floor started swaying under our feet. It is a terrifying sensation, because contrary to instructions to run and hide under a desk, you can't move. It is like being in a boat violently rocking from side to side.

              We knew immediately that we were being hit by a Quake. One of us in the group was my secretary who exclaimed: "The computers"...and tried to crawl in to the next office to disconnect them. Bless her heart to be able to do that.

              I lived 30 miles from my work and had no idea if my house was still standing or not. Driving home was like passing through an uninhabited planet: nobody on the road. It looked like the Bridge was fine so I took it but later I saw video of the Bay Bridge having collapsed, burying cars and people.

              The house had a large crack on it but otherwise it was standing.

              For 10 years afterwards we kept hearing that this was not the "Big" earthquake, it was still coming.

              Several hit the Bay Area since. I have an earthquake tracking app: there is an average of 20-30 quakes every day in the State. There were 7,131 in the past 365 days.
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              • Posted by  $  1 month ago
                After that F5 passed through, a wide long stretch of my neighborhood looked like a war zone and a lot of people died. Some homes were rebuilt but there are still a lot of empty lots with debris long ago cleared. One lot stands out for having concrete steps that lead up to nothing but a stand of tall grass and brush.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 4 weeks ago
    I live at 4200ft. in Az, so flooding or not doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I have read this article previously on Smart News. I hope the scientists not only take some soil core samples but core samples from those uncovered tree stumps. They could well give a good indication of the climate 4-6k years ago. Maybe this research would show that Climate Change is not necessarily human caused.
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