Duh!

Posted by  $  Thoritsu 2 months, 1 week ago to News
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Looks like the totalitarian left media are finally admitting that China has rights violations. Of course this has been so for decades.

Interesting that they chose to bring it up now. Is it an attempt to assign the blame to present foreign policy.

It certainly shouldn't be to recommend befriending our biggest enemy economically and politically (well some of us) ... militarily soon.
SOURCE URL: https://www.cnet.com/news/china-reportedly-blocks-access-to-us-news-sites/?ftag=CAD-04-10aae4g&bhid=24302357983232192887605517428179


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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 months, 1 week ago
    I find their choices of what to block very similar to what I might choose if I wanted to hinder socialist propaganda in US schools.
    (The Guardian, Washington Post, The Intercept, NBC News, Facebook, Google, Twitter, HuffPost)
    But I wouldn't actively implement such censorship as policy (as currently done by Facebook, Google, Youtube, et al.)
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    • Posted by  $  exceller 2 months, 1 week ago
      If the communist government of China wanted to be true to itself, they'd block internet access all together.

      I bet they are still pining for the old ways when people's lives were monitored, those who had independent thinking sent to Mongolia, passport was needed to travel to the next province, and no access was available to ANY news from the West.

      You can't change the stripes of the beast. A hyena will always be a hyena.

      Not for Biden, obviously. His son's business is overriding all considerations .
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  • Posted by  $  mminnick 2 months, 1 week ago
    The relatively free (for the PRC) economic system not in place does not translate even remotely to political and personal freedom. Even the economic freedom is limited and tenuousand may be lost with a shift in power within the Party.
    Do not forget what happened to "Tank man" He disappeared never to be seen again.
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    • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
      Indeed. China has not been free since just after WWII.

      So interesting it is finally coming to mainstream media. Must just be Trump's policies that have changed the great China to a totalitarian mess!
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      • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
        Most of it is still not coming to the mainstream media. Few today know how the "liberals" of the 1940s and early 50s undermined the free Chinese and how policy was influenced by communists inside the US government.

        An interesting brief history is the 1951 While You Slept: Our Tragedy in Asia and Who Made It, by John T. Flynn who is, or used to be, famous for his The Roosevelt Myth in 1948, 2nd edition 1956..
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      • Posted by  $  blarman 2 months, 1 week ago
        Yes, when we refused to help Chiang Kai-shek battle Mao and the communists. And as a result 50-60 MILLION Chinese were butchered in the installation of the Chinese Communist tyranny.
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  • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
    Yes, China has been censoring the internet for decades, but some liberals have previously opposed it, including criticizing US companies like Microsoft and Google for caving into Chinese demands.
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    • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
      We have almost single handedly brought China to the economic first world, and formed our worst enemy to date. Russia only had military power, not economic power.
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      • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
        After destroying free China, the US helped the communist dictatorship economically with the claim that economic success would ideologically convert the country. That itself was a Marxist argument confusing cause and effect, as we have seen ever since. Those responsible along with most of the left still don't understand it.
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        • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
          We definitely did it. Clearly some with the foolish intent you describe. I think some were just opportunistic, hoping to exploit artificially cheap labor.
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          • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
            And the "cheap labor" came with cheaper prices but even worse quality control.
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            • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
              You should try our approved suppliers there. Quality if as good as USA oroducts
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              • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
                Sure, after 30-years of poor people investing in junk.

                My brother had a Chinese jack stand break and drop a transmission in his lap.
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                • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                  Either it was superior quality for a jack that knew additional functionality like how to drop things, or your brother carelessly used it beyond it's expected life expectancy of a week or so. I hope he wasn't hurt too badly.
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                  • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
                    It sure what you mean. It was not my brothers jack. He does not buy foreign things unless they are not available US made in general. His hurdle is ~5x price difference.

                    The jack stand in question had a massive casting flaw. It failed because it was crap. He wasn’t really hurt. He is quite solid.
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              • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                They can include quality control when it is required. It usually isn't because the US companies don't require it in order to keep the cost cheap. The designs are also inferior quality.

                "As good as USA products" doesn't mean what it used to. Much of the blame is consumers who in mass don't think and go for the cheapest price tag, driving quality to a lowest common denominator. The quality then sinks below even what consumers expect, and it becomes difficult or impossible for more discerning buyers to find quality even when willing to pay more. That then opens a pseudo market with higher prices for fancier-looking products only pretending to be higher quality.

                What do your approved suppliers sell to you?
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                • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
                  We buy mostly components used for off road led lighting Aluminum mounts made to our drawings, populated circuit boards to our design specs, leds and electronic parts, advanced robotic control products designed by the Chinese of very impressive quality, led strip lighting products of their design.

                  We use vendor qualification procedures and incoming inspection as we would apply to all vendors to catch quality issues that may arise as early as possible

                  Overall, supply from China has been excellent and the intense competition in China has worked to our benefit. Unfortunately, trumps tariffs are very damaging to us. We actually ship more finished goods internationally to Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Canada and Mexico
                  than we buy components from China by a large margin. If we didn’t buy from China we wouldn’t be able to secure international orders with attractive prices. This is a Milton Friedman thing in actual practice

                  We sell noting at all TO CHINA. We could not compete at all in their domestic market
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            • Posted by term2 2 months, 1 week ago
              It wouldn’t be so cheap if we had a gold standard
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              • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                Manufacturing in China costs less, in part because of the typically lower quality control. That is why so many US companies moved their manufacturing operations to China.
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                • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
                  This is one of the best examples of AS that exists.

                  My favorite irony in the world is a “Union First” bumper sticker in a Walmart parking lot. Buying ones way out of the future!
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                  • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
                    Like your brother's Union Jack?
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                    • Posted by  $  2 months, 1 week ago
                      Certainly not his jack stands or jacks. His are all USA made, either older solid stuff (like his US drill press) or new and quite expensive. Perhaps Union made, perhaps not. I’m dead sure the newer stuff is not made in union shops.

                      If you are referring to Chinese made stuff being all union, then yes, except it wasn’t his. It was a friends he was helping.
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  • Posted by jdg 2 months, 1 week ago
    Now that China is openly hostile toward the US, Trump should take advantage of the "nothing to lose" situation by restoring diplomatic recognition to Taiwan, and hopefully a defense treaty too.

    The worst case response by China would be to cut off trade with us, which they need more than we do.
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    • Posted by ewv 2 months, 1 week ago
      What happens to all the US companies now in and dependent upon China after decades of short-sighted 'investment' in China making themselves dependent on a fascist dictatorship?
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      • Posted by jdg 2 months, 1 week ago
        My take is that they wind up having to pick one country or the other. I'm surprised Google hasn't re-homed itself in China already; in fact I wonder if it isn't secretly controlled by China, since it is already a good way along in implementing a "social credit system" similar to China's in the US and Europe.
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