Tackling the Mental Health Problem

Posted by Abaco 4 weeks, 1 day ago to Culture
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I find this interesting. I do think this is an issue that is woefully ignored in our country. However, I don't agree with a few key points of this proposal: 1-how it's funded, 2-apparent lower tier for insured tax payers, 3-general poor planning at this phase. California is being overrun with mentally ill people. Downtown Sacramento looks like a zombie apocalypse on the weekends when the office workers aren't around. It's really a bad situation. The simple fact remains that if a family, with health insurance, has a member that needs mental health services they are left in the cold. The system we now have doesn't cope with this. And, for reasons I won't get into here, it's a problem that is growing like you can't believe. Americans, it seems, are under relentless neurological bombardment. (where's my tinfoil hat....?)
SOURCE URL: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/heatherknight/article/Bold-plan-to-tackle-SF-s-crisis-on-the-streets-13899585.php?psid=1C0uF


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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 3 weeks, 6 days ago
    Another day a young man came to my waiting room. He was crying. He said he was a veteran and no one would help him. I pulled him in to my office and met one of my LPC's in the hallway. He'd heard the man. He said I'm a veteran too. I'll help you! That counselor did this consistently. Free of charge. I gave him free rent and utilities!
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    • Posted by  $  25n56il4 3 weeks, 6 days ago
      We saw 7500 patients for 14,750 visits in 10-1/2 months one year and continued this over and over and over. There are many people out there who need someone to listen.
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  • Posted by  $  WilliamShipley 4 weeks ago
    The "concept of quick and effective mental health care" is harder to achieve than simply providing millions of dollars to pay for treatment and hand out pills. Mental health problems are notoriously difficult to resolve. People who are mentally ill often do not want to be treated -- they are mentally ill.

    When we decided that someone who is not a threat to others cannot be incarcerated -- a good idea in my opinion -- we generated a class of people who are not sufficiently sane to care for themselves but also not a threat to others. These people wander our streets.

    Perhaps some day science will actually be able to 'cure' them but until then I have no idea what the solution is.
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    • Posted by 3 weeks, 6 days ago
      Last night I took my little daughter down to a foot bridge across our river by our house. It's about a half-mile walk, down a road that goes through a wooded parkway. The homeless problem here in norcal has exploded. I was getting ready to beat the hell out of one of the hobos because he was screaming all kinds of racist stuff when he wandered past us. The area has become unsafe anymore. Used to be paradise. I could go down there and fish for salmon without a care in the world. Now, I have to steel myself to knock somebody out. There are plenty of dangerous people wandering around now. Sad...
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 3 weeks, 5 days ago
    I don't approve of government-guaranteed "health
    care for all", either physical or mental. But for the actual criminally insane, perhaps there should be some. As it is a crime issue.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 3 weeks, 5 days ago
    Complete bullshit. We are manufacturing Mental health cases in this country for the following reasons.
    1. Provides you with an excuse not to work.
    2. Drug and alcohol abuse.
    3. Endless wars and foreign interventions which cause real mental health problems plus....... They also result in problem #1 from those that are inclined to look for an excuse. [Sorry to say, not all veterans are solid gold wounded warriors, some are deadbeats just like in normal society]
    4. Mollycoddling of children from birth to past adulthood.
    5. Sprinkled in here are the genuine mental health cases which are no longer institutionalized.
    6. Breakdown of the family unit which leaves the weak minded adrift and without family support. These individuals with family support used to get by but with no family they get adrift and sink in to homelessness and drugs ans alcohol.
    If SanFran comes up with free mental health programs it will just be another government boondoggle. This BS story of the poor unsuspecting hard working middle class family that is blindsided and bankrupted by genuine mental health problems, is actually very rare. The majority of problems of this nature are self-inflicted by individuals and also do-gooder government action.
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    • Posted by 3 weeks, 4 days ago
      Yes to all that. But...the fact remains that there are tons of violent, mentally unstable homeless out there right now. You want to try to fix the causes you list? Good luck. They'll throw your ass in jail...haha!
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 3 weeks, 3 days ago
        We need to be taking a hard line with these bums. When Giuliani started hassling the squeegee guys in NY all crime went down. The problem is that the mayors of these Democrat hell holes see these people as their constituents, not the middle class tax paying schmoes that pay for it all.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 3 weeks, 5 days ago
    It used to be that there were dedicated mental asylums and religious hospitals who would take these people and try to treat them. Those have largely been shut down by Democrats over the years through policy decisions that want to put the State in charge of everything. And so as a result we have cities like San Francisco which are literally spending tens of millions of dollars every year to clean up human feces and used drug needles.
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 3 weeks, 6 days ago
    One day a youngster walked up to the door (a half door) of my office and asked, 'Ma'am where can I go for drug counseling?' I asked, 'When did you last use drugs?' His answer, 'This morning.' I advised him to turn around and walk to the second door on his left and knock and he would receive help. The chief of police was sitting on a sofa in my office (couldn't be seen by the young man). His eyes opened and so did his mouth and I said, 'Sit still and shut up!' He did. Help is what most of these people need most. I provided that for 18 years. Free of charge! I wrote a lot of grants!
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 4 weeks, 1 day ago
    We had our own tragedy at Santa Fe High School which is just at our county line. The lad who did the dirty deed lived in my town. He was attending our schools. I am very angry he didn't get the mental health care he so badly needed. His parents sent him over to Santa Fe when he got kicked out of our schools. Not the right thing to do! Mental Health is a high priority in our youngsters and we need to address it fiercely.
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 4 weeks, 1 day ago
    Isn't this exciting? Now, a better way to do this is to recruit volunteer mental health specialists one day a month and offer free services to those who could afford it while being funded by private foundations who would LOVE to contribute to this cause. They could also offer services to Medicaids, bill Medicaid and use the revenue to support the clinics. I'll bet 99.9% of the mental health providers are credentialed by Medicaid and they could donate their mental health care patients Medicaid payments to the clinics. This works.
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