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  • Posted by $ Stormi 4 years, 10 months ago
    Hogwash used to control us! Actually, climate has always "changed", and we are headed for cold.It is not about pollution, or any other activity by man. The Sun and Earth itself are going through changes, as they alwasy have, and ysCongress con't do a thing about it.
    This is a Sun controlled issue, and the sun is headed toward a Grand Solar Minimum and colling. When you add to that the switching of the Earth magnetic poles, now beginning, as the North on has moved toward Russia, that spells cooling for now. As it progresses, we likely will see communication disruptions at best, and all out disaster with snow and severe cooling at worst. CO2 is not part of this equation, it is good for plants and has been fa higher in far history. Politicians do not want to admit there is something out of their control. I had discussion with the head of the science dept. at my university over the years, and there was no beieif in the UN touted UN Agenda 21 global warming hoax. AOC stole the points, and is now out on a limb, which will cmem crashing down with her.
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  • Posted by jimslag 4 years, 10 months ago
    Well, in my view, it is called Weather. A couple off decades ago, these same scientists said we were heading for the next Ice Age. Even this has evolved, it was Global Warming, then Global Heat, now Climate Change. Please make up your mind (did not put a word there that I wanted to maintain respectability) on what we have but please base it on fact not conjecture.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 4 years, 10 months ago
    The climate change scenario has become a political football. The freshman Democrats are to blame because it's propaganda that can propel them into the fake news media limelight. Electric cars won't solve anything even though I own one, the long-range battery charge technology is still in it's growing pains stage. I agree with a lot of the other comments that climate has changed for a hundred of thousands of years. Articles I read online and even on some cable documentaries where ice cores, lake bottom cores, and other geological investigations have shown that climate change has been part of the Earth's history. Just because there are wild swings in the current climate doesn't mean it's the end of the world.
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  • Posted by GaryL 4 years, 10 months ago
    I think we will be in much greater peril when the Climate stops changing.
    All the money in all of the world won't do a damn thing to substantially change the climate and Pollution is our greater fear.
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 10 months ago
    Collectivism will cause far greater destruction than 2 degrees of warming in 50 years. We should concentrate on what’s really important
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 10 months ago
    Not much currently, as I don’t live in an area that might be affected. I won’t be alive in 2050 anyway. If I was younger and planned ion living on a pacific island that was 3 ft above high tide sea level, I might consider moving
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 years, 10 months ago
    Okay, if you are taking a class, and want to challenge the professor, then the trick is to AGREE with him.
    And to check his sources. The 97% agreement is bunk, and has been proven as there were 2 sources of this info, and it is generally unacceptable in how they FALSELY get there...

    But agree with him/her. And lead them down a primrose path with you. Think Columbo.
    So, we have models that say given these inputs, we WILL GET "X" level of warming, and that's a core basis of this information, correct?
    And these Models are PUBLISHED in an open source way so they can be reviewed and tested by independent researchers?
    [if not, then WHY NOT? Are they hiding something?]

    And did they go back and test this with OLD data, and put in ACTUAL temperatures from 2 million years ago, and test that the system CORRECTLY predicted what happened?

    Also, what if we put the data in backwards? Does it predict Cooling is going to happen? What if we put the same temperature data for 10 years in. Does it tend to have a warming bias?

    How about we PROVE 3 things beyond a reasonable doubt:
    97% of All Climate Scientist agree on Global Warming being PRIMARILY Man Made... We should be able to test this, Right?

    The models used are Available and Independently testable!

    The models, when we test them, do not have a bias towards "warming"!

    And if we can't do that, then I am confused. Do we switch to Religious Faith because it's "Obvious", or do we adjust our viewpoint?
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    At which point, ask the professor to help the class find the Models and try to test them themselves...

    Mark Steyn has a great book on this, and he rips it apart and provides the details on where to look.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bARj...
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  • Posted by mspalding 4 years, 10 months ago
    As rational beings we like to use science to understand reality. Admittedly science is done by humans so it may take time to get to the actual truth. In the meantime this chart by XKCD gives a good illustration of climate change through the ages: https://xkcd.com/1732/
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    • Posted by teri-amborn 4 years, 10 months ago
      That graph makes me wonder about what temps were when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.
      My guess: MUCH warmer since plant and animal life was abundant everywhere.

      Thanks for the post.
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  • Posted by mminnick 4 years, 10 months ago
    From the geological record the climate has changed multiple time over the eons. It may be doijng so now and it will again. Not mauch mankind (sorry, peoplekind) can do about it. One volcanic eruption like Mt. St Helens or Krakato put more CO2 and other gases into the air than humanity has don'e in it's entire history.
    It is going to change and we should get used to the ides.
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