How A Leaked Clip Shows The Real Donald Trump

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Michael Knowles reacts to President Donald Trump's interview with George Stephanopoulos and explains how Trump uses his experience as an entertainer to address the media.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 months ago
    Another thing that showed the real Donal Trump was his decision to halt a counter strike against Iran this morning. He decided that killing as many as 150 Iranian revolutionary guardsmen was out of proportion to our loss of an unmanned drone. This from a man the media constantly tells us is mean and heartless.

    Compare that with Obama, the media darling, who routinely used Predator drone strikes that killed many innocents along with the target hostiles. The hypocrisy reeks.
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    • Posted by ewv 3 months ago
      The Iranian revolutionary guards are not innocent. "Mean and heartless" is ignoring that. Whatever the appropriate response, the standard is not sparing the guilty.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
        I agree about the IRGC, but isn't it possible that letting them know "I could have killed you, and chose not to, for now" might make a few realize they actually want to survive? Human psychology is murky at times, but any act that puts cracks in the Mullah's absolutist base can lead to change.
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        • Posted by term2 2 months, 4 weeks ago
          I would be a little nervous if I were the mullah sand trump let me get away with destroying a 180 million plane That means he He had patience until the day when without notice his patience runs out

          U can’t believe trump actually cared about killing 150 Iranians. That was a message, and a very scary one indeed

          You are right about your analysis
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          • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
            How long after 40 years of this does it take for "patience to run out"? It continues because of the appeasement.
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            • Posted by term2 2 months, 4 weeks ago
              It didn’t take trump long to go after Syria for chem weapons
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              • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                Yes, it didn't, but what is the policy this week in his changing pronouncements? At least he cancelled Obama's self-destructive and illegal "treaty" and reimposed sanctions.
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                • Posted by term2 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                  I got a clear message from trump’s decision. I1) an immediate air strike was planned without notice and can be done at any time
                  2). Trump is in control of the military
                  3). Next time there is injury or death caused by Iran, there will be an attack
                  4) in the meantime , there will be additional squeezing of their economy until it collapses
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                  • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                    His inconsistencies from one day to the next as changes his mind do not make it clear what he will do next or what his policies are. The country is supposed to know what it's own government's policies are.
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                    • Posted by term2 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                      Part of a good negotiation is appearing to be somewhat disorganized. Trump is good at this. I say let him do his job. The proof of the pudding is in the eating
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                      • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                        Stop making excuses for him. His range of the moment Pragmatism and emotional thinking is not "three dimensional chess" in some superior intellectual realm no one else can attain. Trump's cancelling a military raid he already approved, minutes before it would have been too late is not an "appearance of disorganized". Nor does his public explanation that he had just learned that people would be killed make any sense. Potential action is planned long in advance and he had already been told what it meant.
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                        • Posted by term2 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                          I am not so sure about the whole “sanctions” approach to Iran actually bringing their irrational leaders to the table. From where I sit, and admittedly without knowledge of really what’s going on, it would appear that the economic sanctions against Iran will result in the same result that happened with Japan in WW2. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in a last ditch attempt to score the destruction of our pacific fleet

                          Pushing a dictatorship that doesn’t care about its own people against the wall means their only option would be military.

                          That said, maybe war with Iran is inevitable, and like with hitler, better to do it now before they get nuclear weapons.
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                          • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                            Some kind of war is inevitable there. A better form of it would be for the Iranian people to revolt, which they tried to do but were stopped by Obama supporting the regime. Their economy is in depression and the sanctions may lead to a revolt. But US military action should not be automatically ruled out in favor of sanctions no matter what the Iran dictatorship does now.

                            The Iranian dictators know they can't win a "Pearl Harbor" attack against the US. But they may be irrational enough to think they can enlist the aid of China or Russia and wind up doing something really stupid whose destruction no one would win. It's very important to keep Iran definitely and militarily confined to keep them under control until they go under before they can obtain their own nuclear weapons.
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                        • Posted by term2 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                          Watch the movie “ 13 days” for a snapshot of decision making in a White House. The war machine military has contingency plans for many scenarios ready to implement- waiting for presidential approval prior to actual execution
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                    • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                      Who is the cowardly troll who emotionally 'downvotes' with no attempt at rational discussion? This forum does not need anti-intellectual conservatives on a mindless hate crusade for Trump idolatry.
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        • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
          They already know they could all be killed. Telling them they were spared because they are innocent only gives them the sanction of the victim. It does not lead them to change for the better. Justice is the opposite of showing he isn't "mean and heartless".

          This is more of the Trump idolatry claiming he's mysteriously smarter than everyone else as he "plays three dimensional chess" every time he says something stupid.
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
            To me, it's like Trump is taking a page from the notebooks of Lazarus Long, e.g. "Never appeal to a man's "better nature." He may not have
            one. Invoking self-interest gives you more leverage."
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
            He didn't choose not to kill them because they are innocent, merely to make them think about the difference between a religious fanatic who considers them expendable and a foreign leader who might be giving them the chance to survive. Not so much a change of heart, but to make them think about the possibility of living a bit longer if they make the right choice.
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            • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
              Not being "mean and heartless", which were your words, is not the standard of justice. That they are not innocent matters. They have had 40 years of appeasement to "think about" a "foreign leader who might be giving them the chance to survive". The appeasement has done nothing to curtail the religious fanaticism. Trumps latest contradiction of himself only illustrates that one never knows what he means or will do next. That is unprincipled, not genius.
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              • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                So, should he just "kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out?"
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                • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                  Who is "all" and what does "God" have to do with it? That is a false alternative to what you initially wrote as the standard.
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                  • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                    That's an old military saying from the Vietnam era, when all of the rules of engagement became so complex, frustrated soldiers used that expression to let superiors know they were tired of the mission of trying to sort out the hostiles from the innocents before engaging. Too many of our troops died waiting on the command chain to give the go ahead to return fire.
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                    • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                      They were more than tired of it. It was literally killing them. One of the many evils of that senseless, sacrificial war. The "command chain" was often the Taggart Tunnel mentality.

                      But we are not in a war with Iran, and short of that it's not appropriate go there killing everyone in sight, which remains a false alternative to the criterion of not being "mean and heartless" against thugs in a dictatorship. Whatever the appropriate military response is now can be figured out by military experts with the proper motives and standards, but not being "mean and heartless" is not the basis.
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                      • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                        I don't think Trump is worried anymore about how the media paints him, because he realizes he never had any hope of winning their "hearts and minds," as they're at war with any President with the temerity to ignore them. Technically, the proper response to an attack that cost us a $100M asset is to inflict the same level of economic pain on Iran's assets. Trump would far rather find some way to hit them economically with some new sanction or financial block, because he understands those, probably better than any of his military commanders. The alternatives of shutting down one of their Gulf oil platforms, or blockading any shipments of oil out of the country to anyone have more political negatives, but not so much as running up a body count when you're not at war. Military are probably not the ones to advise him on what to do next, because they have two duties: blow stuff up; and kill as many of the enemy as possible.
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                        • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                          I don't think Trump ever worried about influencing the media. He knew from the beginning what they are. But he has no intellectual alternative and what we need now is an intellectual battle at the deepest roots against the establishment. He can't even consistently articulate his own positions from one day to the next to his own supporters, preferring loutish school yard comments like trashing the size of someone's hands.

                          Why say that "technically" a "proper response to an attack... is to inflict the same level of economic pain on Iran's assets"? When someone attacks you why should a "proper" response be limited to the same thing and in equal amount rather than putting a stop to it in a way that is necessary so that it will not come back any time soon. Justice against brutality is not "equality".

                          There are many possibilities, and the modern military does study and analyze in depth the economics of foreign enemies, and plans different scenarios based on that. It isn't restricted to "blowing stuff up" and "killing as many as possible", which predominate in all out physical war. Different possibilities they are recommending and pursuing in cyber warfare and undermining economics we don't know, but we also don't know what the presidents' own policies and principles that we -- and he -- should know.
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                          • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                            Having spent most of my professional life in the military and supporting military and intelligence agencies I would say they have a clumsy, often disastrous result when they stray outside traditional military or intelligence missions. Areas where they have improved are special operations, using highly skilled small teams against very well defined targets, with specific mission objectives, and cyber warfare. With respect to the latter, I know much of what has been achieved on the cyber front is, and will stay, well hidden. Cyber warfare involves planting digital "land mines" as a surprise attack that happens unexpectedly with devastating results. Unfortunately, leaks sometimes occur, like the recent exposure of our intrusion into Russia's power grid. It was a very effective probe that demonstrated we can be very good at implanting digital weapons where they can do the most damage, but the leak gave the Russians the opportunity to plug the gap (if they can find it). I suspect a cyber attack against Iran could yank the last pins from under their economy, but like the called off attack, could have results out of proportion to the needed response.

                            One caution with respect to the American intelligence cyber weapons is that unlike traditional weapons, they can be, and have been used against our own citizens, going unnoticed until someone of conscience exposes them. Hopefully the investigation into the Russia hoax will clean the Augean stables of our national intelligence system and put roadblocks against their weapons being used for political purposes.
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                            • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                              The progressively increasing abusive surveillance against US and other innocent civilians by Federal agencies, including NSA, did not start with the Democrat's "Russia hoax" politicizing the FBI to corrupt an election and effect a coup. It goes back decades ago when they were trying to ban and obstruct private use of encryption.

                              Such abuse is not an argument against the military becoming defensively involved at all in the already existing cyber warfare internationally. It's imperative that they do. Neither are occasional breaches of security exposing it (or any other military operation) a reason not to do it. Another example was Obama's illegal leaking of strategy with Stuxnet against Iranian nuclear production years ago.

                              Military planning involving economic warfare isn't new, and since you have been involved in supporting military intelligence you know there is a lot of classified material you could not see and didn't know about (let alone discuss it here). In Economics and fiance Trump knows how to build things, the military knows how to disrupt them through sometimes non-obvious means involving a lot of planning and strategy. So called "sanctions" and other measures have been very successful in having at least some significant impact.

                              The military has a long history of being "clumsy" in many ways. The acronym 'snafu' came from, in the end with highly successful results, the American military in WWII. Fix it where it can be, but we can't stop fighting in the name of not being clumsy.
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                              • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                                Just so we're clear on what I do or don't know, I held special compartmented access credentials under both the DoD and CIA, the so called "above top secret" clearances. And yes, there's a lot I can never tell anyone.

                                I can tell you that once the military advises their civilian counterparts on what could be done, the decision to act passes to that civilian leadership, and they don't always follow the military strategy. As one illustration, President Carter did not follow the military advice on the attempt to rescue the Iranian held hostages, being more concerned with creating a multiservice team than executing the best strategy. As a result, the attempt met with disaster, from using the wrong equipment and a team that had never worked together before.

                                An experience I can pass along is that the creation of a National Intelligence Agency that supposedly leads all the subordinate intelligence agencies did not solve the problem of agencies not sharing information. It did, however, make the misuse of assets easier, as the extra layer of administration further clouds the view of what exactly each agency is up to. It also allowed the "leak" of missions from one agency to another, with NSA and CIA working in areas they aren't supposed to. Part of this mission leak is because the NSA has the most powerful supercomputers of any agency, and it's inevitable that when they let any other agency make use of their systems, they control what their own people see.

                                Then there's the new Cyber Command in the Pentagon. The Defense Intelligence Agency is heavily involved, and has a burr under its saddle about the encroachment of the civilian intelligence agencies cyber activities. Naturally, the civilian intelligence agencies are irritated by the "new kid on the block" working in a field they previously acted alone, passing tidbits to the military when it suited them.

                                If I was a White House Intelligence Czar, I'd advise the President to form a team of experienced intelligence people from across the spectrum of agencies and the DoD to probe flaws in the national intelligence system. The team would be charged with recommending actions to clarify the rules of engagement between the agencies, and to prevent abuses such as we've witnessed over the past few decades.
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                                • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                                  Before Carter's debacle Kennedy dabbled in Eisenhower's plan at Cuba and created the disaster he tried to deny.

                                  Attempts to reform the intelligence agencies in accordance with the Constitution seem doomed to fail. Revelations from Binney to Snowden should have created a national common sense revolt, which is what they were counting on, but it didn't happen. Instead the agencies captured their civilian leaders and the problems worse.

                                  If I were you I wouldn't be broadcasting what kind of access you had.
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                • Posted by term2 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                  Too many Muslims out there to do that...
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                  • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                    Whatever he meant by "all", this is not a religious war for a new Crusade against Muslims that some conservatives want. Iran is a particular totalitarian nation making particular threats and taking actions that most Muslims around the world know little about and have no capacity to repeat them.
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                    • Posted by term2 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                      But by and large, Muslims sit idly by and condone terrorism
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                      • Posted by ewv 2 months, 4 weeks ago
                        Billions of muslims around the world have nothing to do with it and know nothing about it. They are primitives.
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                        • Posted by term2 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                          Violence is written into their Koran
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                          • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                            Violence is "written into" the Bible and every other religion, primitive tribe, and ethnic group. Most of them around the world are no threat to us. The military threat is from certain nations. The rest of them keep themselves suppressed in ignorance and superstition.
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                            • Posted by term2 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                              The Koran prescribes “death to the infidels”. I am a non believer, so it’s prescribing that the muslins should kill me. Muslims don’t seem to disavow this part of their religion

                              I haven’t seen in Christian or Mormon religions that all infidels must be killed
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                              • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago
                                Stay out of Amazon and African cannibal territory. Primitives all over the world would kill you. It isn't a reason to start a religious crusade against Muslims and "muslims" are not a proper basis for US foreign policy.
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  • Posted by ewv 2 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    The vast majority of them do leave you alone. The ones who don't are the ones who should be dealt with directly. But that isn't a religious crusade.

    As for them living here it depends on how many and what they are as individuals. People who are willing to support themselves and respect the rights of the individual can be tolerated no matter what their (inconsistent) religious dogmas. But beyond a certain point, the influx of an anti-reason, anti-individualist alien philosophy and culture in volume can only destroy a country built on their opposite, and they are being helped by the results of the counter Enlightenment already spread here.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, friend, but I'm beyond fear at this point in my life. The KGB made one attempt and failed. I feel a man is measured by his enemies, and by his friends. I think we are well served by the few who intend to cleanse the manure that has crept into our intelligence agencies. Only time will tell. Sleep well, as there are forces afoot who will right the ship of state.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 3 months ago
    To anyone who has actually appeared on network television - let alone someone who is a 15-year veteran - this isn't out of the ordinary at all. You are very cognizant of everything going on even while you are trying to play your part because you know you might have to redo it all again if someone screws up. This to me shows that Trump is alert and watchful for these things. And he was completely correct to call out whomever coughed on set. Everyone on set knows that things like that can ruin a good performance or distract the actors. He/she deserved to get called out.
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  • Posted by  $  3 months ago
    Notice, no teleprompter. Surprised the MSM didn't use the interruption to show a mean ole Trump.
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    • Posted by  $  allosaur 3 months ago
      Let's relish their wasted opportunity. Can easily imagine that nasty Don Lemon of CNN telling his shrinking TV audience, "Trump might have well told that poor coughing man, "How dare you interrupt me! Are you stupid or what? Get the hell outta here you germ-spreading sickie! Go croak n' freakin' die out in the hall!" Betcha that's what Trump wanted to say!"
      BTW, me dino looked up Lemon to get his first name. Noticed some guy is his fiance.
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      • Posted by  $  3 months ago
        That is what happens when one lies to himself against the core of his own being...they end up constructing a person that is completely fake.
        Freud would have a ball with him...
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