Solar Cycle 25 is Coming

Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 3 months, 3 weeks ago to Science
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5 min. Video update.

Yes, it's time to prepare for outages and disruptions. They are most likely.

SOURCE URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br0YcdIhj_M


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  • Posted by ycandrea 3 months, 2 weeks ago
    You mean Climate Change is not man-made! Oh the horror!
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      Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      No, it's not climate change. OldUgly is promoting a very different crackpot theory of doom through an impossible reversal of the earth's rotation.
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      • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
        That is not what this post is all about. It's about the next solar cycle and the lead up to the onset of Grand Solar Minimum.

        We are still "Vetting" out the next magnetic reversal and a newly found mechanism that might be the cause of reverse rotation as the ancients described.
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        • Posted by Lucky 3 months, 2 weeks ago
          Old old chap, the idea of stopped/reversing the rotation of the planet is something that I imagine would absorb a solar if not galactic amount of energy so is not an idea worth planning for. If the 'ancients' described it, well so did Hemingway- Did the earth stop for you too?

          Now magnetic poles- there is strong evidence in geology that our poles have reversed more than once. Magnetism is important to natural processes as well as to human technology. A reversal could be not just unpleasant but a catastrophe.
          Those readers here who do not watch utube (handicapped by impatience as well as grumpiness), would appreciate a written summary of scientific thinking on the likelihood.
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          • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
            And that is what a micro nova would produce, evidence for micro novas run through history not just on earth but the moon and Mars also....this is what is being vetted out and likely will produce a peer review theory.
            The Ancients didn't hammer that into stone for no reason...there has to be something to it. Only a subjectivist would ignore looking into it further.

            When something is ready to be published, it will be posted. This has not gone unnoticed by NASA either.
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        • Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
          No serious scientist is "vetting" an alleged "cause of reverse rotation", which does not happen. The "ancients" are irrelevant. The lack of credibility of the goofy web sites you promote, with sensationalism in the name of science, as your gurus has been established here previously.
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          • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
            Many in the past have claimed something to be impossible and proven wrong...your name will be added to that list one day soon...hope you like crow.
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              Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
              That there have been occasional wrong predictions in science is not a justification for your anti-science sensationalism appealing to "the ancients". It is the opposite of science and Ayn Rand. You show no understanding or interest in either. Your lack of knowledge and objectivity does not make your sensationalism "possible".
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              • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                Hmm apparently you do not do much investigation of facts and data, let me help:
                You should not have an issue with this "crackpot" source:
                https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...

                https://www.livescience.com/18426-ear...

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...

                Of course, this well thought out, mush of nonsense may be more to your vast knowledge of the condition:


                https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/...

                You seem to be a very smart, logical person, whose bias and inability to discuss without judgement any idea, gets in the way of what would otherwise be a useful discussion.

                Logically, consider the possibility of a ferrite core, magnetized in a particular way. Now reverse the field on that core. It would indeed be magnetized to rotate in reverse. Since that is directly opposite the current rotation, and a gazillion ergs of energy of inertia is already in motion, Newtons physics say that we would have to release that inertial energy in some way. Since no one has documented a specific instance of this happening, the field is wide open as to the results, but like any release of a large amount of energy, this is probably not going to be a good thing for us. There are several theories of the trigger for this, OUC is simply presenting some of the possibilities for discussion and debate.
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                • Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                  No reputable science predicts that the physical rotation of the earth will reverse rotational direction. Change in magnetic polarity between the poles is not a change in rotational direction. Magnetic polarization is not mechanical motion.

                  Old Ugly is not "simply presenting some of the possibilities for discussion and debate". His posts are ignorant of science, instead being attracted to sensationalism in global disaster in accordance with what he thinks are prophesies of his mystical "ancients". His arbitrary, subjective promotions are not "possibilities" and not science.
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                  • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                    Electro Magnetic polarization is a fundamental property. Pass an electric field through a magnetic device (wound motor) and magic happens: Mechanical Motion.

                    Here, I will make it easy:
                    https://www.ducksters.com/science/phy...

                    The center of the earth is a giant Iron Nickle ball rotating, that is the basis for the earths electro magnetic fields. The field strength varies with all kinds of factors, such as density, plasma density of the solar wind, deflection angles of magnetic currents. Move the poles, and you change the equation. As the web site says, apply the right hand rule. If you tilt your hand (move the poles) the rotational direction changes, and gyroscopic mechanical torque is applied, the Earth wobbles, turn your hand 180 degrees, the rotation reverses. There is a fundamental known fact that can be applied to the Earths core, that says this is indeed possible. Being a more complex system, not understanding the in depth properties of the electric universe, only means we may not be in possession of all the details, which may impact the final model.

                    Your statement: " His posts are ignorant of science, instead being attracted to sensationalism in global disaster in accordance with his mystical "ancients". His arbitrary, subjective promotions are not "possibilities". " is dismissive, and ignorant of the facts, which I have just clarified for you. You should apologize, as OUC was making a honest attempt to discuss rational possibilities. If you doubt it, go look up Suspicious Observers and listen to some of their material, it is logical and fact based.
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                    • Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                      You have not "clarified" anything about science. It is gobbledygook. That is why it is "dismissed".

                      This isn't a matter of rational discussion with someone who happens to not be educated in science. He is stubbornly ignorant, having no interest in learning basic science while persisting in promoting sensationalist nonsense he picks up from his favorite youtube gurus no matter how many times he has been corrected. Crackpots do not deserve perpetual patience.

                      Whether or not you are interested in putting in the effort to learn and understand basic concepts of physics, Ugly Carl and his gurus are not something to take at face value. This is supposed to be a forum for Ayn Rand's philosophy of reason, which Ugly Carl and others here have no interest in or understanding of as they pursue promoting the opposite.
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                • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
                  Thanks Nick, I guess scientist aren't allowed to investigate anything that happened in ancient times cause the ancients just made stuff up.

                  More germane to this post, here are some other predictions for solar cycle 25.
                  https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.02107.pdf

                  https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.04435.pdf

                  I guess these guys are hacks too.
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                    Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                    Archeological investigations of primitive societies does not mean adopting their superstitions and mythology. They did "just made stuff up". Primitive societies did not have knowledge and intelligence superior to science.

                    Investigating solar cycles today does not mean endorsing a reversal of the earth's rotation, let alone believing in the prophesies of "the ancients".
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                    • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
                      So why did you bring it up? This post was about solar cycle 25...not the work being done to understand polar reversals.

                      And, hate to tell you, (don't want to ruin your fun) that the ancients could not make up stuff, they could only recount what they experienced the best way the could; and yes, they expressed them in mystical ways...a sure sign of bicameralism....according to Jaynes.
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                        Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                        You brought it up. Your posts are repeatedly obsessed with cataclysmic disaster in any way you can connect them.

                        Mysticism is "making stuff up*. "The ancients" are not a source of scientific knowledge and neither are your gurus.
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                          Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                          How ironic that the mindless 'downvote' clowns do the same to this post: Old Ugly opened this thread with "it's time to prepare for outages and disruptions. They are most likely." No they are not "most likely". He is promoting anti-science sensationalism and still appealing to primitive superstition of "the ancients".
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                • Posted by Lucky 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                  nickursis
                  I've looked at those 3 sites, they deal with reversal of magnetic poles. I do not recall reading any scientific opinion that a magnetic pole reversal can stop/reverse the globe.
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                  • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                    Lucky, mainly because no one has been around for one. The links were to establish the fundamental truth of magnetic pole reversal, in response to "No serious scientist is "vetting" an alleged "cause of reverse rotation", which does not happen." Once you prove that a pole reversal is possible, basic electro magnetic theory (aka the right hand method) shows that if you reverse the flow of current in a magnetic field, there will be a reversal of mechanical motion. That is truth, fact.
                    Now, you are correct there is no proven fact that a pole reversal WILL result in reversed rotation. No one has said it WILL happen. Carl is simply stating research, theory, scientific interpretation allows for the possibility. The results of such a possibility, given the huge energies involved (which you already stated) would be very catastrophic. Rather than dismiss everything as "voodoo" or "gobbledygook" An Rand would endorse logical, fact based discussion and debate (after all her basis of Atlas Shrugged was a goofball who invented a motor that used no fuel or power, yet worked, and created a shield, which we all know is impossible, therefore her book is just science fiction fantasy voodoo gooledygook, right?). To prove my point look at the discussions and lectures available for purchase from aynrand.org (The AynRand Institute):

                    https://estore.aynrand.org/c/20/science

                    Charles Darwin: More than "Just a Theorist" (MP3 download)
                    Global Warming: The Science, Politics and Philosophy (MP3 download) (This one alone shows how science can conquer the manipulative use of data to create a crisis to exploit people with, I posted the scientific paper here that put a stake through the heart of Global warming by proving low cloud cover predominantly controls climate and anthropomorphic climate change is a myth, and that came from the same people ewv labels as "sensationalist nonsense he picks up from his favorite youtube gurus ).
                    Physicists Lost In Space (MP3 download) (This is another topic those same "sensationalist nonsense he picks up from his favorite youtube gurus" have addressed in exactly the same manner as this guy did in 1999, and based on scientific discoveries in the last 20 years, those same "gurus" have been moving towards a completely different model of the universe and matter.

                    The point is, we should never close the door on discussion, ignore data, or label things as mystical nonsense without making a clear case for why it is so, besides "This is supposed to be a forum for Ayn Rand's philosophy of reason" which is EXACTLY what Carl has been doing. If you are going to just use your personal dogma to determine scientific validity, you need to go hang out with the Liberal Elites and worship Occasionally Uses Cortex, because they operate on the same plane of existence. (That did not mean you, Lucky, you are questioning a position, logically asking the right questions).
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                    • Posted by Lucky 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                      nickursis I have looked at the 2 papers and wiki that you have referred to earlier.
                      As well I have looked at the 2 pdf papers on arxiv on geomagnetic reversal that Old... referred to.

                      They look adequately written, propositions backed up by analysis from evidence. The mathematics is beyond my patience to check carefully. The topic is sunspot activity, records and measurement, and why and how it happens.
                      The ideas cover: that the sun rotates, there are internal masses with different rotation, masses may be what we could call ferrous probably gaseous also with magnetic properties which causes other solar effects such as radiation. There is mention of 'dynamo models' but I think there is poor or no resemblance to internal electrical generation.
                      The radiation has relevance to climate on earth.
                      I found no reference to rotation of planet earth in those papers.
                      Nothing there that would be outside mainstream science.
                      Nothing anyone on the Gulch would say was impossible or far fetched.

                      Your argument about a rotating ferrous core-
                      Yes, earth (probably) has an magnetic rotating core, it rotates on a different axis and at a different rotating speed to that of the planet, the axis also wobbles.
                      This proposition provides an explanation of things we know such as earth's magnetism.
                      That is, there is a magnetic field which moves matching the movement of the rotating core. The field does not rotate but moves.
                      The magnetic poles are not fixed physical locations, the apparent locations on the earth's surface are an outcome of the field, if the field moves, so do the poles. (Like a point of light on a screen from a laser pointer that is spinning). What the core does, determines the poles, not the other way round.
                      The L/R hand rules, electrical generator/motor, can not be applied as there is no conductor carrying an electrical current, just a moving magnetic field, thus no force, no torque to speed up or slow down the rotation of the planet.
                      There is no external influence of the core. -except from the mass of the earth (gravity) which carries it round the sun in orbit. Its rotation and movement is the sum of cyclical attributes it already has. Those cycles may appear to reverse the magnetic poles, the core would have moved, not been flipped and not even the core would be rotating in reverse. The rotation of the core does not produce the field.

                      It is fact that applying the magnitude of forces to the earth sufficient to stop/reverse rotation would shatter it, not stop/reverse rotation. (The asteroid belt?) So to say 'no one has been around for one', is correct. If it happened, no survivors, no records, no ancient wisdom passed down (ah! but what about telepathic time traveled communication? ok but it was not planet earth. but with mythical powers anything is possible! Einstein said: 'the universe and human stupidity are infinite, but I'm not sure about the universe').

                      As to wisdom of the ancients, of course some ancients had wisdom, some of them and some of the writings, and then as now there were ideas and stories told only to produce an effect on the credulous. Stopping the movement of the sun in the sky would be such, or it could be from hallucinogenics, controlled use of special substances to motivate the troops.

                      Reversed rotation- 'Carl is simply stating research, theory, scientific interpretation allows for the possibility"
                      I have asked but no research or theory have been given, science as understood does not allow for that possibility.
                      Carl has conflated magnetic pole reversal with planet spin reversal.
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                      • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                        Lucky, thank you for a well reasoned position and summation of how you see it. Excellent points, and I should be clear that I was taking the logic to the next step, to match a lot of current myth as well as paleontological history about the Flood. and tied to a proposition that a sudden pole shift with a sudden magnetic surge or shell expulsion from the Sun could cause a change in rotation within the core, resulting in such Flood. It is all their pieces needed to explain something never explained, that goes beyond "God did it". Maybe God does control the things that cause it, but all the pieces are normal physical things. Carl was indeed speaking if Solar Cycle 25, which, according to all projections, will be super small, leading into a "Grand Solar Minimum". I do believe there is enough hard science to show the possibility exists, and I think one thing missing is that there ARE connections between Earth and Sun, and some very strong ones, they are evident in the production of the magnetic field and the shielding caused by it. The force is applied along those lines the poles are essentially physical connections to the core, just like you have a hardwire circuit connection.

                        Just like this floating Millennium Falcon no hardwire connection was needed: https://youtu.be/uDZk6YmM0ik

                        Now increase the power a billion fold, and you could still effect it, bigger, and still have no hardwire connection.

                        Earth is connected to the Sun, like all physcal things in the solar system are, and then we are connected to the galaxy. Energy is being dispersed along all kinds of connections throughout, the way it is done on large scale is what drives them to look for Dark Matter to explain it, and they are beginning to find Dark Matter does not fit what they can see now. It all goes to the Electric Universe idea.

                        Go here to see a lot of their material, and you will find it makes a lot of good sound, logical sense:

                        https://suspicious0bservers.org/

                        Their material is all backed up by scientific data, and they do a lot of "dot connecting" to explain things.
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                        • Posted by Lucky 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                          N thanks for that.
                          tubes- I do not watch, as owned by G and as it takes too long, exception, when I want to see a do-it yourself type explanation.

                          suspicious observers website- ok to me from a quick look, I got sucked into the article on species extinctions especially the Neanderthals, my interest follows reading the 'Cave Bear' stories by Jean Auel.

                          When a person, often sensible and amusing, gets something wrong, I prefer to see the argument attacked but not the person. Defending the person is ok in this case, but no need to stretch/break the boundaries by defending the argument.

                          Movement of the earth's magnetic poles, or even reversal, will turn out to be of little consequence (famous last words?). At the moment I see it as on the same level as "The Climate Emergency".
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                          • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                            Lucky, thank you for the reply, I do understand the G thing, and I do understand the YT thing. I too find it is useful for DIY stuff. I also understand the position on debate, you are correct, and I appreciate your position, I agree we should just stick to the issue, or item, and not pontificate the " I'm right, you're not". Don't attack individuals. I really don't even like the "attack the position" because it is not attack, it is debate,discussion, facts, data. If I can make a case for a position fine, if it is not good enough data, then maybe I don't have it right, or a good enough case.

                            Thanks,
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                          Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                          There have been several well reasoned, serious responses here based on knowledge of the science which you contradict, but which you presumptuously dismissed as "personal dogma" along with the increasingly snide and caddy personal attacks.

                          The scientific ignorance being stridently promoted here while dismissing all criticism and responding with increasing personal attacks is not "rational discussion". You did in fact emphatically endorse fundamentally false ideas from your own lack of knowledge while dismissing serious response and presumptuously accusing "you do not do much investigation of facts and data, let me help". You are in no such position to "help". Rather than follow the discussion your posts became increasingly defensive and personally hostile.

                          There is no need to concoct rationalizations in order to dismiss the pseudo explanation "God did it", and they do not help understanding. Scientific explanation is not rationalization and not fads like the "Electric Universe". Everyone knows there is a physical connection between the sun and the earth, that does not open the door to rampant speculation and misapplication of electromagnetic theory to explain the "Flood".
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                      • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
                        What you don't realize is that the possibility is being investigated, everyone ignored it before but for some reason it's on the agenda.
                        I was trying to look for the announcement that caught our eye a while back of something from the sun that had enough power to make that happen. All I remember was an equation that suggested that the earth would slow it's rotation by 40mph per minute.

                        Whether the earth will reverse rotate or not hasn't much barring because just the magnetic reversal alone will be devastating enough.

                        What we really need is transparency in the actual dating of prior events. The time frames are all over the place.

                        But, here again, this is not what my post was all about.
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                        Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                        That some "ancients had wisdom" gives far too much credit to him. He's not talking about the wisdom of Aristotle or even cavemen who knew how to hunt for food. He has promoted his belief in a super race preceding humanity, including his belief in interbreeding from Nephilims mythology, for years on this forum:

                        "I believe there were civilizations prior to the rise of the Human species 200K ago and they were probably the nephilimhttps://http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts...

                        He rejects the science of evolution as "post modern idiocy" and thinks there was a conspiracy by the Smithsonian to cover up evidence of nephilims: "many nephilim bones being destroyed by the Smithsonian so that darwin would not be challenged. I PERSONALLY have seen the 12' tall nephilim bones." https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

                        He even claimed that Ayn Rand agreed with this nonsense. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

                        A few months ago he persistently promoted one of his youtube gurus, Douglass Vogt and the phony Diehold Foundation, as a source of his ideas in the name of "science".

                        He thinks the "Hebrew alphabet" proves there was a "people that was literally tens of millions of years more advanced than us. Abraham and Moses who pulled the two plates out merely found them in, deep in the cave."

                        "This alphabet is the first physical evidence we have that a very highly advanced civilization once lived on Earth. Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet, will reveal what the Torah really is and by doing so, the surface story disappears entirely. The only part of the surface story that has importance is the Genesis story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden story told us who the people were who put the technology into the family burial cave."

                        In describing his own book he says, "The author proves that there is a very high probability the next polar reversal will happen between September and December 2046. He found the exact date encoded in the Torah." https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

                        OldUgly's posts have been thoroughly debunked but it makes no difference to him. The intransigent antiscientific subjectivist mentality continues to flood this forum with nonsense.
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                    • Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                      Understanding science through education and a professional career is not "personal dogma". And you do not tell me to "hang out with the Liberal Elites and worship Occasionally Uses Cortex, because they operate on the same plane of existence", which is an ignorant personal smear.

                      Nor is "This is supposed to be a forum for Ayn Rand's philosophy of reason" "EXACTLY [sic] what Carl has been doing". Rational discussion is not arbitrary pronouncements in the name of science by someone who is ignorant of science and attracted to sensationalism and the mysticism of what he calls "the ancients". He is not "simply stating research, theory, scientific interpretation allow[ing] for the possibility". His posts are scientifically illiterate with a stubborn psychology to match.

                      He has been persistently promoting his BS here for a very long time despite being corrected several times, showing in detail the subjectivist and mystical nonsense in his favorite sources. He has shown no interest in understanding even basic science or Ayn Rand, preferring to parrot his favorite youtube gurus. Crackpots do not deserve perpetual patience. That principle is not "closing the door on discussion, ignoring data, or labeling things as mystical nonsense without making a clear case for why it is so."

                      There is no "fundamental truth of magnetic pole reversal" causing a reverse in the direction of the earth's rotation.

                      "Basic electromagnetic theory" is formulated in Maxwell's equations, not the "right hand method". It does not show that if you reverse the flow of current in a magnetic field, there will be a reversal of mechanical motion" of the earth. A magnetic field is not a "flow of current". Your assertions are scientifically ignorant, not rational discussion. You do not even know how to use the terminology in coherent sentences.

                      Maxwell's equations relate changes in electric fields to changes in magnetic fields. As one consequence they explain how changing magnetic fields can be used in generators to generate electric currents, and how electric currents can generate magnetic forces causing an electric motor to work. It does not mean that every mechanical motion is an electric motor and it is not "magic".

                      The 'right hand rule', which you do not understand, is a sign convention relating direction along an axis to the direction of rotation about the axis. It is not a physical law causing the rotation of the earth. If the sign convention were reversed the reformulation of physical laws, if done consistently, would still hold. The 'right hand rule' encapsulates the sign conventions in the vector cross products in Maxwell's equations, which do not say that the magnetic polarity of the earth causes its rotation. Magnetic polarity of the earth is not the only source of forces on the earth and not a dominant source of its angular momentum.

                      Understanding science requires understanding objective concepts and principles, including how and why they were formulated and validated. They are not arbitrary speculations like a religion, rationalizing some observation with floating abstractions or worse. Science is not just another source of authority, to be followed by feelings for whatever sensationalism sounds appealing to certain kinds of psychology. And it is not "personal dogma".

                      The nature of Maxwell' theory of electromagnetism in particular is not "personal dogma". If you want to understand the basic ideas of electromagnetism you must understand the concepts and why they were formulated as they are, not follow whatever some guru on youtube is peddling that you learn to parrot. Stubborn science illiteracy is not grounds to promote whatever one feels like in the name of "logical, fact based discussion and debate".

                      If you are serious then read a credible source such as Forbes and Mahon's Faraday, Maxwell, and the Electromagnetic Field: How Two Men Revolutionized Physics. It goes as far as it can without requiring the mathematics employed by Maxwell.

                      In the meantime, please refrain from lecturing the rest of us on a subject you do not know, and especially refrain from your personal smears and pushing kook promotions in the name of reason and Ayn Rand. It is no better than the mentality of the crackpot CIA and UN black helicopter conspiracy theories and dogmatic religion pushed on this forum.

                      None of the philosophically oriented lectures on the Ayn Rand Institute website you named support your promotions or the subjectivist mentality behind them. Did you even listen to them? Contrary to your claim, they do not "prove your point". Nor was Ayn Rand's "basis of Atlas Shrugged a goofball who invented a motor that used no fuel or power". You don't understand the novel or its purpose, either. Ayn Rand's philosophy was not whatever else you happen to believe just because you were attracted to some aspect of a novel.
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                      • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                        You continually claim that basic science has all the answers. Well it is claimed 97% of Scientists agree on man made global warming.
                        Do you bow to that science?
                        Scientists should just pack up and go home EWV says it is all settled nothing else to learn or test.
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                          Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                          Your post is nonresponsive. Please stop misrepresenting me. Mankind has gained enormous understanding since the beginning of the scientific revolution based on reason. That is not "bowing to science" and does not mean that everything has already been discovered. It has however replaced the mysticism and superstition of the Dark Ages.

                          "Statistics" claimed for 97% agreement on climate hysteria are not an excuse for anti-intellectuals to reject science in favor of their emotional subjectivism in a populist anti-scientific revolution.
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                      • Posted by  $  nickursis 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                        Oh my, did you get a degree at Wal Mart? Send in box tops from cereal? ""Basic electromagnetic theory" is formulated in Maxwell's equations, not the "right hand method". It does not show that if you reverse the flow of current in a magnetic field, there will be a reversal of mechanical motion" of the earth. A magnetic field is not a "flow of current". Your assertions are scientifically ignorant, not rational discussion. You do not even know how to use the terminology in coherent sentences."
                        Electromagnetic Induction:
                        "Electromagnetic or magnetic induction is the production of an electromotive force (i.e., voltage) across an electrical conductor in a changing magnetic field."

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...

                        EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

                        I am to assume you have a PHd and must teach at a high end liberal college, because you, sir, are very rude. Do you hang out with the local SDS group on campus? You inability to consider others and rigid thinking are not the mark of an open minded, rational thinker.
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                          Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                          Rudeness is your smearing an educated response as "personal dogma" while sneering to "hang out with the Liberal Elites and worship Occasionally Uses Cortex, because they operate on the same plane of existence", now followed by taunting about a "degree from Wal Mart" and more confusion of physics with communist politics.

                          The quote you cribbed from wikipedia is nothing like what you said and does not justify your claim that the earth will change the direction of rotation.

                          Rejecting your personal attacks and ignorant promotions is not "rigid thinking". Nor does "rational thinking" mean being "open minded" to crude personal attacks and intransigent, emotional outbursts of snarling ignorance. Please consult the guidelines for posting here.
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                          • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                            This post is about the solar cycles not a reversal of the planets rotation. When you say OldUgly and leave out Carl you are being snide and rude.
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                              Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                              Your post is non-responsive and a misrepresentation. Nickursis said: "there will be a reversal of mechanical motion", jumping on OldUgly's kook science bandwagon as they are attracted to sensationalist disaster prophecies.

                              You have not addressed anything that any of us have said refuting and rejecting bizarre, anti-science claims emotionally promoted in this and other threads that do no not belong on this forum. Ayn Rand advocated reason and science, not hysterical populist conspiracy theories and their mental equivalent as kook "science".

                              OldUgl is called an "abbreviation". Calling him OldUglyCarl is no different in content. That is the least of it.
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                  • Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                    There isn't any. Old Ugly has been promoting that nonsense repeatedly here, tying it to his following the mystical prophecies of what he calls "the ancients". It does not belong here.
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 months, 3 weeks ago
    Awesome post OUC . Thanks for the additional links.
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    • Posted by  $  3 months, 3 weeks ago
      You are welcome Brother.
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      • Posted by  $  25n56il4 3 months, 2 weeks ago
        Such passion! I wish I understood what you guys are writing about. But I don't believe the world is going to end in 12 years and I have no idea what a Solar Cycle is. I do have a good friend who is an engineer and he explains things to me.
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        • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
          A solar cycle is 11 years, a pole reversal occurs and we get an 11 year max sunspot cycle and then an 11 year minimum cycle. A major sunspot flair, a filament flair or a strong coronal hole may occur during either cycle but most likely we will have these events during a maximum cycle.
          The concern here is that our magnetic shields are weak, 25% down and even a weak disturbance will wreck havoc with our digital and electrical infrastructures. Also we will be watching to see signs of the impending Grand Solar Minimum that would last 30 years or more; which would mean much colder weather overall, more earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and more Icebergs.
          See: Dalton Minimum (30 year) (200 y cycle) and Maunder Minimum (80 years) (400 y cycle)
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        • Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
          He doesn't know what he's talking about either. He's parroting terminology and recombining it in kook "science". "Passion" does not exactly describe his fervent appeals and promotions of bizarre disaster prophecies.
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          • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
            A solar cycle is not: "A bizarre disaster prophecy" and neither are magnetic pole reversals. No one mentioned pole reversals or any like topic until you did.

            Now that's it!, cut the crap. Behave yourself.
            If you want to comment on the next solar cycle, feel free. That is what this post is about.

            PS...thanks for the extra points...LOL
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              Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
              This is what you wrote promoting your apocalyptic disaster prophesy, which has no basis in the science links you gave as alleged justification. Your constant appeals to primitive mysticism as allegedly superior "ancients" is not a basis for science:

              Introducing the thread: "it's time to prepare for outages and disruptions. They are most likely."

              "We are still 'Vetting' out the next magnetic reversal and a newly found mechanism that might be the cause of reverse rotation as the ancients described."

              "The Ancients didn't hammer that into stone for no reason...there has to be something to it. Only a subjectivist would ignore looking into it further."

              "All I remember was an equation that suggested that the earth would slow it's rotation by 40mph per minute.

              "Whether the earth will reverse rotate or not hasn't much barring because just the magnetic reversal alone will be devastating enough."

              And that is just on this one thread alone.

              Your "cut the crap. Behave yourself" is a personal attack that does not belong on this forum.
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              • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
                14 comments down, not a mention of reverse rotation...#15 your comment mentioning reverse rotation. #16 my reminding you that is not what the post is about.

                Fact:...you brought it up...and the rest responded to your bringing it up.

                But again, thanks much for the extra points.
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                  Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                  "14 comments down" is not the order of the posts, is irrelevant, and does not address the quotes of your own statements promoting anti-scientific apocalyptic prophesy, beginning with your own summary at the top of the thread, none of which is supported by your links. The "responses to bring it up" by your and your followers promoted the bizarre, anti-scientific 'earth rotation reversal' promotion, which is only one instance of the apocalyptic pseudo science you repeatedly pronounce here.

                  Your counting posts, like your personal attacks, is not a cognitive response.
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                  • Posted by  $  3 months, 2 weeks ago
                    But the time stamp does.
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                      Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
                      That is not responsive. You are promoting all kinds of sensationalist apocalypse with no basis in science, including the opening summary of your own thread, and including your reverse earth rotation and prophesy of "the ancients" nonsense. Your posts here have a record of bizarre, anti-science for years while pretending to be a supposed new wave of science progress.
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 3 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Are you admitting that you are wrong sometimes? Get a grip you are about the worst possible advocate for objectivism . You are so rigid and critical always claiming you know what is true what is fact what is valuable . You can cling to your dogma and see who cares. Got a question about Objectivism? Ayn Rand? Politics? Life? Dinner? Or... anything else for that matter. The Gulch wants to hear it.
    Make your own forum and you can set the rules . Not here.
    Go to the dump.
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      Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago
      Serious discussion that you do not attempt to address in your personal attacks is not "rigid and critical always claiming to know what is true what is fact what is valuable". Rational explanation and rejection of your crude personal attacks and misrepresentations are not "clinging to dogma". The purpose and rules of this forum are already established and preclude your personally vindictive outbursts, including the mindless "go to the dump". It is not the meaning of discussing "anything else" by those with an appreciation and interest in Ayn Rand.
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    Posted by ewv 3 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Who among the hit and run mindless 'downvoters' would care to explain how his non-responses, misrepresentations, snide personal attacks and personal feuding belong on this forum?
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