Solar Cycle 25 is Coming

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years ago to Science
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5 min. Video update.

Yes, it's time to prepare for outages and disruptions. They are most likely.



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  • Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whatever "investigating" you are doing to promote these sensationalist doomsday prophecies what you are doing is not science.
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  • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's no big deal on the sun but on earth it's havoc.
    Travel, cosmic radiation due to weakened shields, maybe even 0 shielding for a short time; not to mention the effect on plate tectonics, the loss of oxygen in the atmosphere...it's not pretty but survivable...it's the micro nova from the sun that has my interest and still investigating.
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is not responsive. You are promoting all kinds of sensationalist apocalypse with no basis in science, including the opening summary of your own thread, and including your reverse earth rotation and prophesy of "the ancients" nonsense. Your posts here have a record of bizarre, anti-science for years while pretending to be a supposed new wave of science progress.
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  • Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Then why do it? Your statement contradicts your own posts in this thread.
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There have been several well reasoned, serious responses here based on knowledge of the science which you contradict, but which you presumptuously dismissed as "personal dogma" along with the increasingly snide and caddy personal attacks.

    The scientific ignorance being stridently promoted here while dismissing all criticism and responding with increasing personal attacks is not "rational discussion". You did in fact emphatically endorse fundamentally false ideas from your own lack of knowledge while dismissing serious response and presumptuously accusing "you do not do much investigation of facts and data, let me help". You are in no such position to "help". Rather than follow the discussion your posts became increasingly defensive and personally hostile.

    There is no need to concoct rationalizations in order to dismiss the pseudo explanation "God did it", and they do not help understanding. Scientific explanation is not rationalization and not fads like the "Electric Universe". Everyone knows there is a physical connection between the sun and the earth, that does not open the door to rampant speculation and misapplication of electromagnetic theory to explain the "Flood".
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lucky, thank you for the reply, I do understand the G thing, and I do understand the YT thing. I too find it is useful for DIY stuff. I also understand the position on debate, you are correct, and I appreciate your position, I agree we should just stick to the issue, or item, and not pontificate the " I'm right, you're not". Don't attack individuals. I really don't even like the "attack the position" because it is not attack, it is debate,discussion, facts, data. If I can make a case for a position fine, if it is not good enough data, then maybe I don't have it right, or a good enough case.

    Thanks,
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "14 comments down" is not the order of the posts, is irrelevant, and does not address the quotes of your own statements promoting anti-scientific apocalyptic prophesy, beginning with your own summary at the top of the thread, none of which is supported by your links. The "responses to bring it up" by your and your followers promoted the bizarre, anti-scientific 'earth rotation reversal' promotion, which is only one instance of the apocalyptic pseudo science you repeatedly pronounce here.

    Your counting posts, like your personal attacks, is not a cognitive response.
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  • Posted by Lucky 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    N thanks for that.
    tubes- I do not watch, as owned by G and as it takes too long, exception, when I want to see a do-it yourself type explanation.

    suspicious observers website- ok to me from a quick look, I got sucked into the article on species extinctions especially the Neanderthals, my interest follows reading the 'Cave Bear' stories by Jean Auel.

    When a person, often sensible and amusing, gets something wrong, I prefer to see the argument attacked but not the person. Defending the person is ok in this case, but no need to stretch/break the boundaries by defending the argument.

    Movement of the earth's magnetic poles, or even reversal, will turn out to be of little consequence (famous last words?). At the moment I see it as on the same level as "The Climate Emergency".
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Serious discussion that you do not attempt to address in your personal attacks is not "rigid and critical always claiming to know what is true what is fact what is valuable". Rational explanation and rejection of your crude personal attacks and misrepresentations are not "clinging to dogma". The purpose and rules of this forum are already established and preclude your personally vindictive outbursts, including the mindless "go to the dump". It is not the meaning of discussing "anything else" by those with an appreciation and interest in Ayn Rand.
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago
    Who among the hit and run mindless 'downvoters' would care to explain how his non-responses, misrepresentations, snide personal attacks and personal feuding belong on this forum?
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That some "ancients had wisdom" gives far too much credit to him. He's not talking about the wisdom of Aristotle or even cavemen who knew how to hunt for food. He has promoted his belief in a super race preceding humanity, including his belief in interbreeding from Nephilims mythology, for years on this forum:

    "I believe there were civilizations prior to the rise of the Human species 200K ago and they were probably the nephilimhttps://http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts...

    He rejects the science of evolution as "post modern idiocy" and thinks there was a conspiracy by the Smithsonian to cover up evidence of nephilims: "many nephilim bones being destroyed by the Smithsonian so that darwin would not be challenged. I PERSONALLY have seen the 12' tall nephilim bones." https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

    He even claimed that Ayn Rand agreed with this nonsense. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

    A few months ago he persistently promoted one of his youtube gurus, Douglass Vogt and the phony Diehold Foundation, as a source of his ideas in the name of "science".

    He thinks the "Hebrew alphabet" proves there was a "people that was literally tens of millions of years more advanced than us. Abraham and Moses who pulled the two plates out merely found them in, deep in the cave."

    "This alphabet is the first physical evidence we have that a very highly advanced civilization once lived on Earth. Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet, will reveal what the Torah really is and by doing so, the surface story disappears entirely. The only part of the surface story that has importance is the Genesis story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden story told us who the people were who put the technology into the family burial cave."

    In describing his own book he says, "The author proves that there is a very high probability the next polar reversal will happen between September and December 2046. He found the exact date encoded in the Torah." https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

    OldUgly's posts have been thoroughly debunked but it makes no difference to him. The intransigent antiscientific subjectivist mentality continues to flood this forum with nonsense.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lucky, thank you for a well reasoned position and summation of how you see it. Excellent points, and I should be clear that I was taking the logic to the next step, to match a lot of current myth as well as paleontological history about the Flood. and tied to a proposition that a sudden pole shift with a sudden magnetic surge or shell expulsion from the Sun could cause a change in rotation within the core, resulting in such Flood. It is all their pieces needed to explain something never explained, that goes beyond "God did it". Maybe God does control the things that cause it, but all the pieces are normal physical things. Carl was indeed speaking if Solar Cycle 25, which, according to all projections, will be super small, leading into a "Grand Solar Minimum". I do believe there is enough hard science to show the possibility exists, and I think one thing missing is that there ARE connections between Earth and Sun, and some very strong ones, they are evident in the production of the magnetic field and the shielding caused by it. The force is applied along those lines the poles are essentially physical connections to the core, just like you have a hardwire circuit connection.

    Just like this floating Millennium Falcon no hardwire connection was needed: https://youtu.be/uDZk6YmM0ik

    Now increase the power a billion fold, and you could still effect it, bigger, and still have no hardwire connection.

    Earth is connected to the Sun, like all physcal things in the solar system are, and then we are connected to the galaxy. Energy is being dispersed along all kinds of connections throughout, the way it is done on large scale is what drives them to look for Dark Matter to explain it, and they are beginning to find Dark Matter does not fit what they can see now. It all goes to the Electric Universe idea.

    Go here to see a lot of their material, and you will find it makes a lot of good sound, logical sense:

    https://suspicious0bservers.org/

    Their material is all backed up by scientific data, and they do a lot of "dot connecting" to explain things.
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  • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    14 comments down, not a mention of reverse rotation...#15 your comment mentioning reverse rotation. #16 my reminding you that is not what the post is about.

    Fact:...you brought it up...and the rest responded to your bringing it up.

    But again, thanks much for the extra points.
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is what you wrote promoting your apocalyptic disaster prophesy, which has no basis in the science links you gave as alleged justification. Your constant appeals to primitive mysticism as allegedly superior "ancients" is not a basis for science:

    Introducing the thread: "it's time to prepare for outages and disruptions. They are most likely."

    "We are still 'Vetting' out the next magnetic reversal and a newly found mechanism that might be the cause of reverse rotation as the ancients described."

    "The Ancients didn't hammer that into stone for no reason...there has to be something to it. Only a subjectivist would ignore looking into it further."

    "All I remember was an equation that suggested that the earth would slow it's rotation by 40mph per minute.

    "Whether the earth will reverse rotate or not hasn't much barring because just the magnetic reversal alone will be devastating enough."

    And that is just on this one thread alone.

    Your "cut the crap. Behave yourself" is a personal attack that does not belong on this forum.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 12 months ago
    Are you admitting that you are wrong sometimes? Get a grip you are about the worst possible advocate for objectivism . You are so rigid and critical always claiming you know what is true what is fact what is valuable . You can cling to your dogma and see who cares. Got a question about Objectivism? Ayn Rand? Politics? Life? Dinner? Or... anything else for that matter. The Gulch wants to hear it.
    Make your own forum and you can set the rules . Not here.
    Go to the dump.
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  • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A solar cycle is not: "A bizarre disaster prophecy" and neither are magnetic pole reversals. No one mentioned pole reversals or any like topic until you did.

    Now that's it!, cut the crap. Behave yourself.
    If you want to comment on the next solar cycle, feel free. That is what this post is about.

    PS...thanks for the extra points...LOL
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your post is again non-responsive. Snide personal attacks are not responsive. Your personal feuding does not belong on this forum.
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  • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    PS...that pole reversal was in reference to the sun, (not earth) it happens every 11 years. That is how NASA can tell when the next cycle starts.
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your post is non-responsive and a misrepresentation. Nickursis said: "there will be a reversal of mechanical motion", jumping on OldUgly's kook science bandwagon as they are attracted to sensationalist disaster prophecies.

    You have not addressed anything that any of us have said refuting and rejecting bizarre, anti-science claims emotionally promoted in this and other threads that do no not belong on this forum. Ayn Rand advocated reason and science, not hysterical populist conspiracy theories and their mental equivalent as kook "science".

    OldUgl is called an "abbreviation". Calling him OldUglyCarl is no different in content. That is the least of it.
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  • Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He doesn't know what he's talking about either. He's parroting terminology and recombining it in kook "science". "Passion" does not exactly describe his fervent appeals and promotions of bizarre disaster prophecies.
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    Posted by ewv 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your post is nonresponsive. Please stop misrepresenting me. Mankind has gained enormous understanding since the beginning of the scientific revolution based on reason. That is not "bowing to science" and does not mean that everything has already been discovered. It has however replaced the mysticism and superstition of the Dark Ages.

    "Statistics" claimed for 97% agreement on climate hysteria are not an excuse for anti-intellectuals to reject science in favor of their emotional subjectivism in a populist anti-scientific revolution.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You continually claim that basic science has all the answers. Well it is claimed 97% of Scientists agree on man made global warming.
    Do you bow to that science?
    Scientists should just pack up and go home EWV says it is all settled nothing else to learn or test.
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