How One Man’s Deleted Tweet Launched a Worldwide Notre Dame Conspiracy Theory

Posted by  $  nickursis 7 months, 3 weeks ago to Culture
24 comments | Share | Flag the dude (a demoncrat) posted something he believed was correct, unless he just fantasies, and is quickly shut down by the censors on the monitored web, and pulls his tweet (stupid, once tweeted, never dies). However, no one has managed to explain, HOW did they KNOW, during the fire, before the fire department showed up, that it was NOT intentionally set, or arson? They denied over and over, rather than just saying "we will investigate". That is what started the conspiracy rumors, along with the reports like "According to the German news site PI-News, every day in France, two churches are desecrated. They report 1,063 attacks on Christian churches or symbols like crucifixes, icons, and statues in France in 2018, marking a 17 percent increase from the year before. " The deep state idiots want to continue with the "we have no enemies" fantasy, and never address the truth.

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  • Posted by NealS 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    They'll deny enemies until they are required to wear a (fill in something here) or some other symbol of whatever enemy takes control of their country while they continue to deny. Then they will have to obey the other laws imposed on them or accept some alternative outcome.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    As Stefan Molyneaux said: "Because after over 500 INTENTIONAL Church fires in the last year, the odds that this one is intentional should be slim?"

    Basically, I don't know. But there is a photo that shows the damaged tower is obstructing the view of a Mosque being built.

    That gave me pause... But hey, probably a work fire, after work!
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    The daily beast ....oh I need a shower after reading that foul rag. Debunk a cause before a cause is found .. hmmm. To me when Shepherder (of the sheeple) Smith cut off some local observer who was saying with 2-3 damaged, destroyed or desecrated churches daily for the last three years one has to wonder if this is part of that. Then the Shep shepherded him off the air promptly.
    Saying not on my watch.
    Well of course not , we can’t have real journalism by examining The Who What where why and how.
    It really doesn’t matter. They propaganda machine is seizing and the Deep state is on life support.
    Oh by the way some man was stopped carrying two full gasoline cans into St Patrick’s Cathedral This evening. I can hear Shepherd now. This man probably ran out of gas and was just going to lite a votive candle for peace on earth before returning to his empty gas tank.
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    • Posted by  $  7 months, 3 weeks ago
      That is the first article in my comment, the second is the fact they had an alarm and could not figure it out, which is either incompetent or intentional. The whole conspiracy assertion dies when you look at ALL the data, and find out there has been a war on christian churches for the last three years that has gone unreported. Now a major symbol is torched and it is a surprise? No one has conclusively said it was an attack, but until someone provides clear proof it is as valid as the "not arson or terrorism" assertion, yet anyone saying it is labeled conspiracy theorist. Deep state flop and twitch at it's best....
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      • Posted by freedomforall 7 months, 3 weeks ago
        We never even considered the possibility that airliners might be crashed into buildings as weapons.
        (But we did consider using such a thing as cover for a false flag op to manufacture a reason to attack Iraq and create a never ending war on terror.)
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  • Posted by Lucky 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    Officialdom will try to blame it on the repair project. But none of the 12 men on the project were on the job at the time.

    " the Basilica of Saint Denis, housing the tomb of Charles Martel, who ended the Muslim invasion of Europe with his victory at the battle of Tours in 732, was vandalized. A Pakistani migrant has been charged. "
    Similar- nine churches damaged or desecrated in eleven days.

    France has 42,258 churches. Last year, 875 were vandalised, as were 59 cemeteries.

    Recommended, the comment by en passant -
    .. .. who will easily succumb to dhimmi status, who may fight.
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    • Posted by  $  7 months, 2 weeks ago
      Lucky, look up "magnesium fire" and compare the pictures to Nortre Dame and you will see surprizing similarities, bright local flame, and white heavy smoke.
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    The answer to this is simple. The greater Paris area has 1.7 million Muslims living there.....10 to 15% of the population. Intimating, or publicly suspecting anti-Christian conspiracy, particularly after all the other desecrations of French Catholic churches in the past few years, would point to the Muslims. And nobody wants to piss-off the eternally offended Muslims for fear of their cowardly and terrifying retaliation. Therefore, the Notre Dame fire was not arson.....It was an "accident".
    The powers to be in France are afraid....and the Muslims can't handle the truth.
    France, as well as England, Belgium, and Sweden (the rape capital of Europe) have the problem they have because they allowed the EEC to force immigration of millions of Muslims. It's called the utopia of multiculturalism. It is there own fault and now they do not know how to solve the issue. In the meantime, the Muslim in Europe out-breed the indigenous Europeans by a margin of 6 to 1. Europe is lost.
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  • Posted by  $  Radio_Randy 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    My conspiracy theory goes like this...

    A worker, accidentally, caused the fire. This stuff happens all the time with reconstruction, as well as new construction.

    My guess is that French officials are truly concerned that, when they find the unlucky worker, he will be lynched, so they are vigorously attempting to downplay the situation before word gets out.
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  • Posted by Sealofapproval 7 months, 2 weeks ago
    The DailyBeast article is based on profound and intentional ignorance. Even the chief architect of the renovation has said there must have been an accelerant. See for a collection of the sound source information regarding the apparent arson.
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  • Posted by term2 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    If we hear nothing about what actually started the fire, I will probably just conclude it was muslim terrorists who hate western religion (like the 6 other arson fires at catholic churches recently)
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  • Posted by  $  Thoritsu 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    Je m'en fiche.

    The only things good about Notre Dame are that it is old and built in two eras, demonstrating the architectural features of each. The church part is why it was built, but not why it is important.
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    Christian haters! They want to eradicate all our memories and beauty. Notre Dame was a symbol of love and so beautiful. I am so glad that the organ survived and that lovely cross.
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  • Posted by Lucky 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    I have no inside or any reliable info on this but I do understand that security at NotreDame was good, fire precautions not so good, there has been at least one threat prevented by staff (of course from a 'lone wolf') and there have been recent attacks, vandalism, on several European churches.
    As WDonway says, accusations at this stage are unfounded, they could well be intended to create more trouble.
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  • Posted by WDonway 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    I think we could say, here, there are two errors, not one, being discussed. It was an error to tweet the rumor, on mere hearsay, that the fire was deliberate. also was an error on the part of French officials to state that arson had been ruled out even while stating the cause of the fire was unknown and an investigation would begin. Both are conclusions that go beyond the evidence. I have a certain sympathy with French officials. France has had months of mob violence every weekend. And history shows that many pogroms and other mob attacks have been ignited by rumors and the damaged was done before the truth caught up. I think, however, there might have been an emphatic way to state that, as yet, no conclusion of any kind could be drawn, but a full and fair investigation was beginning and all possibilities would be considered.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 7 months, 3 weeks ago
    "proof for right-wing conspiracy theorists who are convinced, without any actual evidence, that the fire was set by terrorists"

    This is the same "logic" that has been used by the press when a crime has been committed: "there is no evidence".

    They keep doing it despite countless arguments that what they should be saying is: "We don't know yet".

    This announcement always comes out the same day or a day after the fact, when investigation hasn't even been started yet. Never mind, they keep sticking to it.

    I withhold judgement until facts are in and the investigation is concluded. Not that I trust French authorities they will be honest should they find any terrorist activity.

    It has already been stated that it was open flame directed at the roof that probably caused the fire.

    One would assume that the workers had knowledge how to handle open flame.
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