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Re-Posting a recently resurrected post...another voice from the past we should have listened to.

Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 5 months, 1 week ago to History
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No truer words have been spoken and still relevant today...we might say, the impetus that created Trump and Q

Maybe we should post this to Q?

I will post all the comments to date...note how far back this post goes.

SOURCE URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4


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  • Posted by  $  Solver 5 months, 1 week ago
    If I was around then in 1958 and heard that speech, I would have though the guy was way off in left field.
    But today, 61 years later, I see the far left collective has actively taken much the field, the using the methods he told us they would use.
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    • Posted by  $  Solver 5 months, 1 week ago
      This is the list of predictions of Robert Welch from 1958:

      1.) Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money, as wastefully as possible.
      2.) Higher, and then, much higher taxes.
      3.) An increasingly unbalanced budget, despite higher taxes.
      4.) Wild inflation of our currency.
      5.) Government control of prices, wages and materials, supposedly to combat inflation.
      6.) Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied, naturally and automatically, by a correspondingly huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and in both the cost and reach of our domestic government.
      7.) Far more centralization of power in Washington, and the practical elimination of our state lines.
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      8.) The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.
      9.) A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare; the duties and the absolute necessity of peace — peace always on communist terms, of course.
      10.) The consequent willingness of the American people to allow the steps of appeasement by our government, which amount to a piecemeal surrender of the rest of the free world and of the United States itself.
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    • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
      Yes, it is now self evident that they have been at this a long time...if we look even further back, we can observe that the leftest," I must rule over mankind" was evident back in the days of Babylon.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 5 months, 1 week ago
    There is a very relevant claim in his speech that has not been touched so far in our other threads recently.

    The role of the UN.

    It is the head of the snake (one of them) which moves the other parts.

    In Europe the UN is planning to make the acceptance of Muslim migrants mandatory. Not only acceptance, but providing the same income and social services as that provided for the locals.

    The current contingent of newly elected reps in the dem house push the same agenda.
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    • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
      You are correct...they want us to mix with barbarians...they will not wake up, become conscious beings just by mere exposure to western civilization. Even our own children haven't awakened due to all the propaganda and programing by the left.

      In that respect the Black American Slaves did awaken from exposure to civilized society...such as it was back then...that says a Lot by comparison...don't you think?
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      • Posted by  $  exceller 5 months, 1 week ago
        I agree.

        Actually, the role of Blacks in our society is not that straightforward.

        Depends on whom you are listening to.

        I remember clearly that during Hussein the discontent on their side was substantial. They expected him to help them but by all measures their social and financial status sank during Hussein's tenure. Remember how Mad Maxine was agitating against him? Thinking of it, she does not seem to know any other but negative sentiments such as rage and discontent.

        Now, I see/hear many Black people supporting Trump and what he stands for.

        As for Muslims, that awakening will probably never happen. Their faith forbids it.
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    • Posted by  $  allosaur 5 months, 1 week ago
      When I heard him say "Let's get out of the UN and the UN out of this country" me dino thought, "That sounds like me talking."
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      • Posted by  $  exceller 5 months, 1 week ago
        For comparison, we all remember Hussein's adherence to UN policies in every aspect from defense on.

        With good reason: nations with dictatorial rulers and known abuse of human rights have equal voting rights than the developed nations and dictating the US to obey their corrupt lines. That is a dear project for the UN.
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        • Posted by  $  allosaur 5 months, 1 week ago
          Hussein's adherence to all of that was not at all surprising after his bowing and scraping apology tour that the socialists of Fake News celebrated as being so hunky-dory.
          Bet Putin, the Chinese and all the Muslim royalty our Weakling-In-Chief paid homage to were all laughing their heads off behind his back.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 5 months, 1 week ago
    I am posting this to my Facebook. Maybe some few will listen
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    • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 months, 1 week ago
      Maybe a few at first will listen. But their response to the words will be absolutely obliterated by the SJW's that completely dominate that "forum". They will create such havoc that ANY original intent will be obliterated. I know some folks enjoy Facebook. But it is a megaphone for the left. You are invited to make comments so that they can show all the others how ignorant/wrong you are. Their words not mine.
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    • Posted by  $  Dobrien 5 months, 1 week ago
      Eyecu2, while at it post this as well.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCB...
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      • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
        would be great if at least 1 kid today would listen to either of these videos.

        Can you believe a 2 yr 10m post I made was resurrected to bolster all the stuff we both have posted? Backs up Q too.

        You and I were on the same track then Too...
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        • Posted by  $  Dobrien 5 months, 1 week ago
          Water Brothers for years . Yes but I suspect Many would not understand what they are talking about. EX. Dodd: Well, Mr. Griffin, in that report, I specifically -- number one -- defined what was, to us, meant by the phrase “un-American.” And, we defined that, in our way, as being a determination to effect changes in the country by un-Constitutional means.

          We have plenty of Constitutional procedures, assuming that we wished to effect a change in the form of government, and that sort of thing. And therefore, any effort in that direction, which did not avail itself of the procedures authorized by the Constitution, could be justifiably called “un-American.” That was the start of educating them, up to that particular point. The next thing was to educate them as to the effect on the country, as a whole, of the activities of large, endowed foundations over the then past forty years.

          Griffin: What was that effect, Sir?

          Dodd: That affect was to orient our educational system away from support of the principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence, and implemented in the Constitution; and to educate them over to the idea that the task now was to effect an orientation of education away from these briefly stated principles and self-evident truths.

          And, that’s what had been the effect of the wealth which constituted the endowments of those foundations -– foundations that had been in existence over the largest portion of the span of fifty years -- and holding them responsible for this change. What we were able to bring forward was -- what we had uncovered was -- the determination of these large endowed foundations, through their trustees, actually to get control over the content of American education.
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          • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
            I would hope they would watch this one first then go into the Dodd way back machine...

            To be honest, I don't even remember posting this piece...can remember though the guy who was a newspaper editor say to me...woh boy with the heavy stuff, read every piece I put out,...he was the highest post producer at the time...in excess of 40,000 at the time.
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  • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
    From the original commentary:

    Proof that the NEW WORLD ORDER has been planned by the elite. Robert Welch, Founder of The John Birch Society, predicted today's problems with uncanny accuracy back in 1958 and prescribed solutions in 1974 that are very similar to Ron Paul's positions today. This is proof that there are plans in place by the elite to systemically disassemble US sovereignty. I wonder who those elite are.
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    Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years, 10 months ago
    I think that you know who the elite are. I little research yields the answer. Norman Dodd uncovered their plan in 1952.
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    Posted by $ Olduglycarl 2 years, 10 months ago
    Not to mention Albert Pikes book outlining the plan.
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  • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
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    Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years, 10 months ago
    I'll ask you is the number of insightful folks not large enough vs the population? What is the % of libertarians vs Dem or Rep. Over two thirds of the voters will vote this fall for a criminal, a fascist, or a socialist , I will be again in the minority voting for Gary Johnson does that make me a crazy kook or insightful? The use of labeling is also used by the leftists to shut down debate and discussion, how about your use of labeling? I wouldn't for a minute think you are a collectivist! I think that many would agree that the mainstream media is corrupt and not exposing or digging for the truth. The general education system is also controlled by collectivists. The university of Texas has the longhorns and their sign makes sense but, Wow they sure have a wide and varied fan base including: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad , Sarkozy from France, Burlensconi from Italy, Putin-Russia,The Deceased Arafat, The Clintons, Tom Ridge, Tommy Franks, Dick Cheney ,The Obama's, Sarah Palin, The Pope , Donald Trump
    Rachel Maddow, Prevalent in the music and movie industry also. The CORNUTO symbol flashed doesn't prove anything alone but it starts to add up.
    The CFR, the bilderburg group This group is slightly different from the others in that it does not have an official membership. It is the name given to a group of highly influential people who meet ever year in secrecy (and usually with strong military and government sponsored security). The topics discussed are kept secret. ,Cloak and gown ,Skull and bones , Bohemian Club,The OTO (Order of the Temples of the East) is an organization that was originally modeled on Masonry but, under the leadership of the self-styled “Great Beast” Aleister Crowley, it took on the principles of his religious system called Thelema.
    The Bohemian Grove is a "resort" located in the giant redwood forrest in Monte Rio,California. All of the "Elite" (Businessmen,Bankers,Journalists,Politicians,
    "Stars"and Presidents) meet there during July of every year to worship a 30-40 foot owl "god" they call "Molech".
    Molech - god of the Canaanites and Phoenicians to whom parents sacrificed their children. It's just fun and games.Cremation of Care ceremony which mockingly burns "Care". Burning a human in effigy and Chanting begone Dull Care or Stupid empathy.

    Many freemason are wonderful folks doing great work but the upper eschelon is a different class
    33 level is the highest with new secrets revealed at each level.

    People not only of the United States, but of the world have allowed organized secrecy to take hold in their once democratic and open societies and turn them inside out into a state of “deep politics” as Peter Dale Scott would call it. So it frankly does not matter what end or purpose a secret society claims to hold (if they will even disclose that information) all that matters is the means by which they choose to achieve it. Because the idea of a government by the people for the people requires the utmost openness, the idea that an elected or appointed official can have allegiance to a secret organization above all is unethical as a means to justify an end. Secret societies are one of the most dangerous enemies to the autonomy of the masses because it creates an exclusive environment for members of the aristocracy to meet and create policies amongst themselves with a complete disregard for the will of the people. The most dangerous secret societies are the ones that have not yet been discovered.
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    • Posted by  $  Dobrien 5 months, 1 week ago
      This has been discovered since I posted that. “The insurance policy” Secret society ....Page , Strozk , McCabe , Mule face turd muffin , Comey ,
      Orr and his beautiful wife Nellie , no-name , Rosenstein, Steele , Claptrap , Glenn Simpleson ,
      Mifsud , Giatti , Baker , Lynch , Hussein, Downer ,
      Ryan . Whatshername Schultz , the Hag , BC ,
      They all play a role.
      There is no conspiracy ...they all acted independent of each other. It just is a coincidence that they all acted treasonous by interfering in a US Election with foreign agents and then to nullify our duly elected President with a coup de Tate.
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  • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
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    Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years, 10 months ago
    Clarence Carson was a devoted husband and father. He was a libertarian his dissertation was the embattled individual , The defense of the idea of individualism.
    He was the opposite of the ruling cabal , the Red Shield family , the Rockafeller , Soros , Turner .the fed reserve families!
    Edison was villainous in promoting his DC electric plan over Tesla's AC he is said to have electrocuted an elephant on stage to "prove AC was unsafe". Ford was a financier to Hitler and sold military transport vehicles to the USSR that were than used against the US GI'S in Vietnam.
    Atlantis is an enigma undiscovered or a myth.
    The top Masons or Illuminatti have had and still have a huge influence on our country and it,s symbolism.
    Yeti or unicorn's or a flying pig are just convenient distractions.
    Evil is evil , the serpent represents satanism , the 33 rd degree Scotish freemasons worship lucifer
    (The light giver).
    Standard oil (Rockafeller) funded and transfered the tech. to the Nazi's for high octane fuel from German coal enabling their war effort.
    The world leaders permeate secret societies , they frequently use the cornuto symbol and without conscience send their young men to senseless wars.
    If it doesn't get you down your values are warped.
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    Posted by $ MikeMarotta 2 years, 10 months ago
    I had to look up "the cornuto gesture." I did not know it by that name. So, the entire University of Texas is one big cabalistic conspiracy? My goodness…. (I read that as COMUTO, but Bing knew what I meant: CORNUTO: horns.)

    My satire or parody above was a mishmash of conspiracy stuff given to me by a rightwing populist. He was serious about Atlas Shrugged being a blueprint for world domination by a handful of capitalists. He was also serious about Ayn Rand having been the mistress of Clarence Carson.

    The rest of it, I just tossed in there to make a salad.

    How is it that you and carl and a few thousand others are so insightful that you broke through the greatest conspiracy in the history of the world?
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    Posted by $ MikeMarotta 2 years, 10 months ago
    The Great Seal of the United States was designed by the Bavarian Illuminati in 1782. However, the original conspiracy began with the Fall of Atlantis. The original freedom-loving survivors are the yeti of the Himalayas. We "humans" are genetic mutants created as life-haters by serpent-worshippers. (See Illuminatus by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson.)

    The secret text "Edison's Conquest of Mars" describes their plans for dominating Earth.

    Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were the center of a cabal to control the world. Why else would the Rockefellers and Ford invest the USSR? Watson of IBM sold tabulating machines to the Nazis.

    This was outlined in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. She was the mistress of Clarence Carson of FEE. Their plan was to destroy the world so that a handful of super capitalists can take it over. Atlas Shrugged was their blueprint.

    It was also revealed in The Secret of the League and The Driver financial fiction from the early 20th century. Both of those were precursors to Atlas Shrugged.

    You need to understand the evil pun in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003) which is actually the most recent propaganda of the ruling class, based on The League of Just Men (Bund der Gerechnen: http://www.globalsecurity.org/militar..., a socialist utopian conspiracy spun off from the Illuminati in 1836, coinciding with the war between Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States.

    But if all of that gets you down, you can rally your spirits by singing along…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG6ta...
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  • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
    Posted by $ MikeMarotta 2 years, 10 months ago
    Conspiracy theory is like astrology or Freudian psychology: it can be used to explain anything. Explanatory power is not a test of truthfulness.

    I must ask again: How is it that you - and a few others - are so insightful and clever that you pierced the veil on this great conspiracy? They must be limited, indeed, if you figured it out. How come they let you live? Not just you, but everyone who exposes them, Robert Welch, G. Edward Griffin, Gary Allen,… You have a little industry going. How is that possible?

    How do you explain that your message is the same one offered by the left? They also see a worldwide conspiracy of capitalists, merchants of war, and king-makers.
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    Posted by EdwinNapier 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
    I tracked this thread down by subject matte so I'm sorry it's 2 years late and hopefully you guys haven't been black bagged and whisked away.
    Dobrien: I've got goosebumps. Spot on, you left out some pieces, but it might have been intentional. Either way, Spot On.
    Mike: It's because following the bread crumbs leads you to mazes upon mazes of information There were literally hundreds of years (thousands for some) where these societies operated disconnected and could only really communicate through mass publication and coded esoteric imagery. I agree conspiracy theory is a buzz word, but I would counter by saying that the above is not a Conspiracy Theory but Evidence of a Conspiracy, the details of which are fucking x-files level impossible to track down. But the Truth is Out There.
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    Posted by $ Olduglycarl 0 minutes ago
    How in the heck did this post get resurrect?
    Did you hang on to this link for the past 2 years 10 months?
    I have to view it again...might gain more insights.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 5 months, 1 week ago
    Watched the video and then joined JBS. Org. They are right up my political alley. I knew of them back in college but never looked into them.
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    • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
      Let us know if there is any strangeness or strange mysticism involved...some of these groups sound like they are ok but then...

      Maybe the medias take on them back in the day was fake news?
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  • Posted by GaryL 5 months, 1 week ago
    I was born in 1952 and my wife in 1958. Not a single word of his speeches would have been considered teachable since our births. These plans have been in effect for much longer than either of us have been alive and it really makes the both of us wonder, how is it what he said in his speeches made it through to us after all the bullshit we have been taught and endured over all these years? I have heard it said many times that a liar has a hard time remembering all his lies but the honest truth is simple to remember. I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you. I often have to tell my friends that I don't want to disagree with them but if I did agree with them we would both be wrong.
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    • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
      Born in 52 also...back in the day, you'd never hear that on TV, maybe radio in some remote part of the country, same with Newspapers...you just had to be there.
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      • Posted by GaryL 5 months, 1 week ago
        YUP! Back then I had a hard time in school because I never believed the swill they were feeding me. I was in trouble all the time with my teachers because I simply asked why is what you are saying is what we are supposed to believe as historical facts? I was assigned to a Social Studies class with a full blown liberal idiot teacher and was failing miserably. I was moved to another Social Studies class with a different teacher and passed with a 92% grade. I was not smart but the teacher was open and honest and taught Social Studies as it really was without the liberal bent. He loved sparing with me and a few of my buddies and gal friends. Pretty funny OGC, I still live right here 55 years later and my pals and gals are the very ones who made the most of themselves and IMO are the happiest of us all.
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        • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
          Was bored and in trouble all the time...they just figured I was stupid...I believed it too...come to find out, IQ test in the army said differently bigtime...just knowing that sparked something in me, got A's in college...go figure.
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          • Posted by GaryL 5 months, 1 week ago
            Only difference between us is I figured they were stupid and I was right. Did great as a helicopter mechanic during Vietnam and have always been well ahead of the "Smart" asses ever since. We could have a few beers together and I have no doubt.
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            • Posted by  $  5 months, 1 week ago
              I ran School Command, (On post schools) for the Army in Fort Carson Colorado and worked for NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain. Got out in 73.
              Lots of people here I'd love to have a beer with someday.
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