Anybody else tired of daylight savings?

Posted by exceller 5 years ago to Legislation
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The president is tired as well, so that probably ensures it'll never be made permanent if the left can help it, just out of spite.

I am really sick of it. It completely messes up daily routine when there is dark at 5 PM, let alone getting up an hour earlier.
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    Posted by $ jbrenner 5 years ago
    I prefer Daylight Savings Time all year long. Getting up in the dark and returning home in the dark during the winter gets very depressing.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years ago
      Me dino also prefers it all year long.
      I read that Trump is considering making that all year thing a law.
      Guess the left will be against it only because the Tangerine Tornado thought of it.
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      • Posted by 5 years ago
        It takes a week to get used to it. Those of use getting up early (4 AM) already, are penalized even more.

        According to data, there is a 25% increase in heart attacks the Monday following daylight savings.

        I can get used to it, but then don't run the time back again in the Fall.

        The justification of helping agr workers with early morning hours has long become obsolete.

        So why on Earth are we doing it?
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years ago
          Getting used to it was no fun when I worked the day shift at the prison so I could pick up the kids at school during the late Nineties
          Had to be there by 5:45 AM so I could hear the briefing before starting the 6 o'clock shift.
          Take it from the dino, you really DO want to hear the briefing before you walk down the hall.
          Glad to be retired now.
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          • Posted by 5 years ago
            What was in the briefing?
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years ago
              All sorts of stuff. Gang activity, fights, inmate drug traffic, threats made against officers, rumors of a riot, sometimes confiscated shanks (prison made knives) are on display with information about precisely where they were found and who had them, the latest rule changes (there was away some freaking rule change) and about once every year or two we were told why and how an officer got himself fired and sometimes, even worse, being taken by summoned deputies to the county jail for trying to smuggle in dope.
              That covers some of it.
              Sometime at the briefing we were told that the prison would not be renamed twice if one of us got killed. The prison I worked at was first called West Jefferson (on that side of Jefferson County) before it became named after William Donaldson.
              A convicted cop killer in a one-man cell threw coffee on a nurse as a trick to lure an infuriated Officer Donaldson into signaling for the cell door to be opened so he could storm in with a baton. The cop killer was waiting with a shank and stabbed Donaldson in the heart,
              http://www.doc.state.al.us/facility?l...
              Gee, I don't recall those little tree-looking bushes there. Nice touch. I left May, 2003, after working there for 21 years.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 5 years ago
          Also, supposedly car wrecks are at a much higher level on the Monday after the DST switch.

          It's just asinine all around. I don't care, really which one we pick, but I'd prefer that we don't switch back and forth. Virtually all the comments I see suggest the same thing.

          Why are we still doing this?
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      • Posted by $ Suzanne43 5 years ago
        I would love to see it on all year. As a night owl, I don't do mornings, so I usually sleep until at least 8:00. By that time the sun is up anyway. I love more daylight in the evenings...great for walking, not having to drive when it's dark, and working outside in the yard..
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  • Posted by Solver 5 years ago
    I don’t really care for it.
    It does add some complexity to life. Because of changes in time politics, my sprinkler system timer has to be reset four times every year now.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 5 years ago
    Then Arizona might be for you. They do not do the time change because in summer they like having more hours in the morning when it's cooler. I have no particular argument for or against it, other than I'd rather keep the time the same all year for simplicity.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 5 years ago
    The real question is whether you prefer to get up in the dark all winter and well into fall and spring, or observe an early "curfew" in the summertime.

    The argument for "summer time" (as they call it in the UK and throughout Europe) was to conserve fuel for lighting and such by extending the daylight hours into the evenings. Here's the question of the day: with the new LED lamps, is fuel conservation by extension of daylight into the evening that important as an issue? It was one thing back in the days of lighting with gas, and even with the incandescent lamps Thomas Edison invented. But modern lamps are available that take only one-sixth the "juice" even of Edison's old lamps.

    So why else do we need to observe a time that extends daylight into the evening, by robbing the morning? That's the debate we really ought to have.

    I applaud the President for wanting to eliminate the semiannual time change. But maybe the solution is to abandon "summer time" completely and go on "winter time" year-round.
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    • Posted by $ CBJ 5 years ago
      Here in Las Vegas, the sun would rise as early as 4:23am if we remained on "winter time" in the summer. No thanks!!
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      • Posted by Temlakos 5 years ago
        All right, how's this: split every time zone straight down the middle, and advance all times in the "eastern half" of each current time zone one half-hour forward. So, for instance, Los Angeles could still keep the current Pacific Standard Time, but Las Vegas could keep PST+30. Then the sun would rise no earlier than 4:53 a.m. even on the Summer Solstice.
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        • Posted by $ CBJ 5 years ago
          I think the result would be even worse. There would now be at least 8 time zones to deal with, and the "minute" hand, which is currently the same across all time zones, would no longer be consistent. This might not have mattered as much in the 19th Century when most transactions were in-person and local, but it would be a major problem if introduced today.
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          • Posted by Temlakos 5 years ago
            OK, we have one vote for observing DST throughout the land--or shifting our time-zone designators so that we begin with Atlantic Time in New York and Mountain Time in Ellay, San Fran, etc.
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    • Posted by 5 years ago
      Actually, energy consumption went up due to daylight savings in States like CA because air conditioning has to be operated to later hours.

      So the argument of "saving" energy is moot.
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      • Posted by Joseph23006 5 years ago
        Without the change it would start to run earlier in the day, trade-off.
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        • Posted by $ jdg 5 years ago
          That depends on how many of the businesses and institutions in hot climates would "implement DST anyway" by changing their schedules twice a year.

          But I expect energy cost would be one of the major factors in that decision, so there would be a net saving under no change.
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      • Posted by Temlakos 5 years ago
        That's exactly what I'm talking about. It could explain why Arizona keeps standard time year-round, by the way--or at least why few people were ready to fight to go with DST.

        I gather, then, that the energy budget would be diminished with a return to standard time in the summer.
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  • Posted by rhfinle 5 years ago
    Daylight Saving Time makes sense to companies. In the winter (Daylight Wasting time), you start later, when it's warmer, and it doesn't take as much to heat the building for the usual 8 hour day. In the summer, you start earlier, when it's cooler, and the AC comes on later in the workday. When the workers go home in the early afternoon, they pay for the extra AC to cool their houses, or in the winter, pay for the extra heat as they're home when it's fractionally colder. Good for business, bad for employees(asterisk). I'd have thought the Dems would have seen this and eliminated it long ago, but then, they're not known for using logic.

    (asterisk) Of course if you keep homes and offices at 68 all day its a moot point.
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  • Posted by $ root1657 5 years ago
    If we are going to kill it one way or the other, why dont we just pin the time of sunrise to 0700, or whenever, and then just have a micro time change every day, and not a huge jump twice a year. Or even better, how bout if there is someone who needs it to be some certain amount of light when they are doing something, let them get up whenever they want, and lets just stop messing with the damn clocks.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 years ago
    I have said for at least 10 years that if at the next scheduled change just make it for 30 minutes and KEEP it there. Years down the road nobody would care any more Both sides would have plus and minus reactions.
    HOWEVER....the dummycrats would find some way to contribute it to so called global warming.
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  • Posted by minesayn 5 years ago
    I would love it it would be discontinued. As exceller pointed out, it has outlived its usualfulness. It is archaic and I am all for returning to the regular time all year long.

    Twice a year, the country goes through this 'screw-up-everyone's-internal-clocks' and it affects health for many, not to mention how difficult it is on parents trying to get their children to bed at a decent hour (especially during the summer months).

    I noticed a daylight-savings-time shift every year where I worked. People came in later often at the last minute because it was light out up until the minute we were to close.

    I'd vote to change it, no matter who suggested it.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 5 years ago
    Do away with it, entirely. The earth is divided up into 24 time zones and ours would always be 1 off from everyone else.
    I frequently utilize Greenwich Mean Time and a simple glance at a time zone map is all I need to determine GMT from local time.
    If it's really a problem for so many people...why not simply change work hours?
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 5 years ago
    All year would be preferable to change rather than opting out completely. Caveat: one bitter cold snowy winter in the late 70's it was tried, the problem it was dark when people were going to work and almost as dark when they got home because the day was so short. In summer it is nice to be able to do things out doors until nearly ten in the evening without needing lights, without the change up to three hours of daylight is lost on most people when the sun is up at five in the morning. Neither option, all year or not at all, really works for me, KEEP IT!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 years ago
    I like the time we are on now. If we leave it like this, awesome! Changing is completely stupid.

    Since this was an executive order, it can be dumped without Congressional action. Just dump it!
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    • Posted by $ jdg 5 years ago
      It's in US Dept of Transportation regulations. Changing it would involve their rule making process, and would be about as contentious as net neutrality. I'm not sure if the change would go through, but it wouldn't hurt to try.

      It says a lot, mostly bad, about the evolution of power structures that when standard time was created, it was created by the railroad industry, and the federal government delayed adopting it until a decade after everyone else.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 years ago
        Power power power. It seems you are right. Somehow this went to Congress my birth year, as well.

        Would be magical to have the states throw such a federal overreach out.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 5 years ago
    I absolutely hat it. Let's stick to one time or the other, but stop changing. Sick of changing all the clocks in the house and cars.Is it true it originally was set up to make golfers happy?
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  • Posted by Ben_C 5 years ago
    My dog simply can't wrap her brain around daylight savings time. She give me the look - WTF am I doing getting up at 6:00 am when I should be getting up at 7:00 am?
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