Nuclear-Armed India and Pakistan Face Off in Renewed Escalation

Posted by  $  nickursis 9 months, 3 weeks ago to Government
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For all the "there's no conspiracy" theorists out there, consider this: The pressure is on the deep state on all fronts, and we see:
1. Russia news reporting a list of nuclear targets.
Venezuaela saying "The US wants our oil" (when we are now the largest producer of it)
2. India and Pakistatn at each others throats over aa individual who blows himself up in a very public way, forcing escalation.
4. The Demonrats annouce an absolutely inane plan to save us from our evil selves for the low, low cost of an impossible number, and say "we'll manage".
5. NUmerous Demoncrat states are making huge attempts to change and disrupt things with abortion up to birth, voting legalized for 16yo, Every demonrat state allowing voter registration with a license, and illegals allowed to have licenses, thus registering every illegal to vote.
6. An concerted effort to over rule a Presidents emergency declaration of a border issue, just after enough fentaynal confiscated to kill 3 million people. But there is no emergency.

Soun strange? Is this normal society? Do new congresspeople generate 2 thousand page laws in a couple months and toss them out to see how they fare?

See a pattern?

If you still think there is no conspiracy, you are not seeing the data.

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  • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Those of us here that have worn out the soles of our internet shoes to vet these things out, to find the facts and the truth of things, know these connected dots, these observations, no longer apply to theory but to reality...this is our world now and it's lost it's collective bicameral brain.

    The few of us, still with our minds intact, find it hard to believe our eyes and ears.
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  • Posted by Lucky 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    There is a lot wrong with India and its current government, on the other hand it is hard to find anything good about Pakistan, you could think the popularity of cricket would be a civilizing influence, no such luck.
    India's PM Modi and his party have made a little progress in freeing up the economy from the 'we know best' semi-socialism of the Nehru days.
    Any gov in Pakistan is fully occupied in placating rampaging mobs in the streets, an external enemy 'helps' here. (Recall Asia Bibi, the woman farmworker tried for blasphemy for drinking from a Muslim cup).

    Conspiracy- no need to blame conspiracy when incompetence and or corruption explain as much.
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    • Posted by  $  9 months, 3 weeks ago
      You just look at the surface. If so, there is no conspiracy. Go dig deeper into why Pakistan and India essentially matter and antimatter, were created where they are, and who has funded their nuclear programs. Takes a lot of digging, but the deep state wants conflict everywhere, because then it masks the little things they do, like change the education system so we produce herds of idiots who only know social slogans and can readily believe in such pure BS of "for only 93 trillion we can save the world, give you free health care and college". North Korea was a manufactured state, and a continual manufactured crisis. The middle east was a continual manufactured crisis, remember the "weapons of mass destruction" that never existed in Iraq? Who did that? Bush. It has never been a Republican/Democrat divide for the last 100 years. It has been Deep State (self serving elites) and patriots who believe in the constitution and the country.
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    The CFR . This group organized to control the diplomatic ranks of our country. To bad it was organized by deep state bankers who control the foundations money enjoying tax free privileges only to put our nation at risk.
    Deep state Modi hits “terror camp” in Pakistan. Tuesday’s airstrikes show he’s “willing to take on risk to respond to Pakistan’s terrorist provocations,” said Alyssa Ayres, a senior fellow with the Council on Foreign Relations and former U.S. state department South Asia.

    “It does appear to strengthen Modi’s hand heading into elections,” Ayres said. “Now the international diplomatic community should exert maximum pressure on Pakistan so this situation does not spiral.”
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  • Posted by term2 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    Something is going to happen to destabilize our world I suspect. We are living on borrowed time for sure. Too much debt, too much deficit spending
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 9 months, 3 weeks ago
    Of course Pakistan has been a terror supporting state for a long time.

    The Pakistani equivalent of the CIA, ISI, has been doing its best to undermine efforts by the US to eliminate them.

    Even H Clinton as SOS lashed out at them for not disclosing the whereabouts of Bin Laden.

    They are snakes and it is high time sometime takes them to task.
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  • Posted by  $  FredTheViking 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    The mistake you make in your analysis is a failure to reconcile your understanding of events with those outside of galt's Gulch. The fact is we live in an age of misinformation. I wonder if it is even possible to say with any confidence a particular fact is true or not. For example, the situation at the border could made much better by change immigration policy that people want to come in can easily a legal status to come in. Legalization of all drugs would go a long way to help the Mexico government be less corrupt and more effective. There is no emergency at the border, the situation is about what it was a year ago or even longer. Trump declaration of Emergency is an attempt to undermine the sepration of powers. Even Obama was not so bold. I fine it ironic that the same group of people echo fears of Obama potential use of emergency declaration to subvert the constitution, would then support Trump doing the same thing. If Trump is allow to do what he is doing now then he or some successor might take it to the next level. It's a slippery slope.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 months, 2 weeks ago
      Unfortunately, American presidents have made liberal use of the emergency powers act since Congress got lazy and handed off its responsibilities to an increasingly imperial Executive branch. I don't understand why Trump made use of the act for the border wall, when all he had to do is invoke existing law that says the military is obligated to install physical barriers at drug corridors, which are invariably along most of the border. I have to disagree that making drug use legal will cure the problem of cartel drug danger to the U.S. What the states that have made marijuana legal have discovered (as I predicted) is that the street drugs the cartels push are much cheaper than the legal variety because they don't bear the overhead cost of licensing, certification, and inspection. If anything, illegal drug sales have increased in those states, and law enforcement costs have gone up. Worse yet, when the cartels gain customers for weed, it's easy to transition them to harder drugs like heroin (use of which is spiking in the states mentioned).
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      • Posted by  $  FredTheViking 9 months, 2 weeks ago
        I didn't mean to start a debate on drug policy. Drug Cartel profits are driven by the hard stuff like cocaine and heroin. Cheap Weed is just a way to attract customers. Take away the profits of drugs like cocaine and heroin and the business model fails. Keep in the mind, the markup of cocaine is 17500%. If it was legal, it would become too cheap to deal drugs illegally. The cartel system would collaspe and the government could then tax the drugs to coop with and deal with drug addicts. The problem isn't the legalization of weed, but a problem of the prohibitions on drugs in general.
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        • Posted by  $  9 months, 2 weeks ago
          NO, having had intimate experience with alcohol, and sober for 30 years, I CAN factually tell you the whole "drugs are fine" is pure BS. Drugs cater to the individual need to escape, to self immolate oneself, and to sooth their poor hurt feelings. The current deep state corruption of peoples individual ability to suffer without some form of support, has led to the snowflake syndrome, and the whole drug acceptance is part of that. They WANT you under control, and drugs are a way to do it, and they approach the issue on both sides, running legal and illegal addiction programs.The legalization thing just makes it worse, and easier to get into. Breaking addiction is a 1000 times harder than starting and a 1000 times more expensive. All dictatorships have relied on some form of addiction in their power structure, whether alcohol, drugs, sex, even religion. You just need some tool to make people give up their lives and allow someone else to tell you what to do, and in exchange, get some good "stuff". The problem is the stuff never lasts and you always want more.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 9 months, 2 weeks ago
    Conspiracy or not, the cultural/ideological disparities between India and Pakistan are sharp. India until less than a century ago was a British vassal state - they became an independent nation interestingly enough the same year Britain was divesting itself of Palestine and Egypt, creating self-ruling States out of those nations as well in Israel and present-day Egypt. And the division of the greater area which became India and Pakistan was done so along cultural/religious lines. The Indians are primarily Hindu with a smattering of Buddhists, Christians, and others. The Pakistani are overwhelmingly Muslim. The Indians have struggled with independence because they still rely quite heavily on a caste system for their social heirarchy. The Pakistani simply turned to rigid enforcement of Sharia. And it has been the Islamic nation which has primarily stirred up trouble in the region, not only in Kashmir, but Afghanistan. Remember, it was in Pakistan that US Navy Seals finally located and killed Osama bin Laden. They have been a terrorist state nearly since their inception, the only difference primarily being that they are one of the few nuclear-armed terrorist states - and that is the incredibly dangerous part.
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    • Posted by BCRinFremont 9 months, 2 weeks ago
      There are probably 200 million Muslims in India...a pretty large smatter....
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      • Posted by  $  blarman 9 months, 2 weeks ago
        No doubt - which is why the Kashmir region has continued to be a hotspot: the majority population there is Islamic even though legally it is part of India. But even though there are a lot of Muslims, they are a distinct minority in comparison to the more than a billion Hindus...
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