[INTERNAL CIVIL WAR]. #2901

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26 Feb 2019 - 1:04:55 PM
[INTERNAL CIVIL WAR]
All-out assault against the duly elected President of the United States.
We have never experienced anything like this in our history.
Treason & sedition at the highest levels of office throughout many departments [F + D].
Propaganda arm [FAKE NEWS MEDIA] of the D party in full attack mode (no facts, only statements).
Propaganda arm [FAKE NEWS MEDIA] of the D party prevent-limit 'sheep (you)' from learning the TRUTH.
Propaganda arm [FAKE NEWS MEDIA] of the D party retain-control of NARRATIVE (control over you).
House D's in full attack mode (no facts, only statements).
Senate D's in full attack mode (no facts, only statements).
THIS IS THEIR LAST STAND.
Fear of prosecution?
Fear of the public learning the TRUTH?
Fear of losing POWER?
Bribes, blackmail, threats, etc. all being deployed.
WE ARE AT WAR.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 1 month ago
    What's the best way to stop a Democrat power grab?

    Tell them no. If necessary, rest your hand on your sidearm to emphasize the point. Most power-hungry people are cowards who don't have the stomach for an actual confrontation. And those that do need to be dissuaded as soon as possible.
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    • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
      Have fair elections. That would about do it. This would help. Arresting the mass media who conspired to aid and abet a coup in the USA. Support fair and legal
      Justice for all , with transparency.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 1 month ago
        The problem is that depends on an educated electorate and what we have now is a brainwashed one. They aren't taught the Constitution in schools - they're taught political correctness. They aren't taught independence and self-reliance, they are taught victimhood and class warfare.
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        • Posted by exceller 5 years, 1 month ago
          Exactly.

          Free elections may not do the job any more, especially if the conservative contingent stays home.

          I also see danger in the way election "laws" are used in some states.

          CA implemented the "ballot harvest" which means a large numbers of votes are "submitted and counted" a day before the election. So the GOP candidate who was ahead by 10 points the day before will wake to the shocking realization that he lost to his Dem opponent overnight, due to the "found" votes.

          CA wants to make this a nationwide law.

          Then there is the anti-Electoral College left who, after H Clinton's losing - is hell bent to scrap it to base the results entirely on the popular vote.

          Not sure small States will accept that which was one of the superb example of the thinking of the Founding Fathers to have States of different headcount be a able to play on an even footing.

          The left of course is not concerned of the consequences in their blind revenge for losing the election.
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          • Posted by $ rainman0720 5 years, 1 month ago
            Not the first time the Dems have been hell bent to toss out the Electoral College. And I agree, exceller: the Founding Fathers knew what the hell they were doing, and the smaller states would never go along, and here's why.

            Yeah, Hildabeast won the popular vote by about 2.8 million votes. But if you throw out one state--California--and Trump actually had about 600,000 more votes than she did. And if you also throw out New York, then among the other 48 states, Trump had a popular vote margin of about 2.1 million votes.

            Trump won 60% of the states (30 out of 50), and he won an astounding 84% of all counties (2649 out of 3152).

            While there are exceptions (Connecticut, maybe Massachusetts, and a few others), I just don't see the majority of the other 48 states voluntarily giving up that much influence.
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      • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 5 years, 1 month ago
        Aiding and abetting a coup is called "Treason" - and the penalty for Treason is death. (Just ask Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - oh, sorry, they're dead: executed for espionage and treason.)
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        • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
          Who prosecuted the Rosenbergs?
          The answer is Roy Cohn.
          See : Roy Marcus Cohn and Donald J Trump
          The view is spectacular at 40,000 ft.
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          • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 5 years, 1 month ago
            Okay, so Cohn represented Trump in a real estate lawsuit where Trump was accused of violating fair housing by making false "no vacancy" statements to African-Americans? Trump settled when he was assured that (quoting Wikipedia): "Trump settled the charges out of court in 1975, saying he was satisfied that the agreement did not 'compel the Trump organization to accept persons on welfare as tenants unless as qualified as any other tenant'." So, in other words, Trump didn't want to rent to deadbeats. This kind of non-sense is what really caused the 2008 mortgage crisis, where banks and other lenders were forced to accept loan agreements with minorities who were actually not qualified (i.e., would in all likelihood not be able to make payments). But, under the idea that "All Americans deserve to have a home of their own," they had to make the loans. Subsequently, enough of those loans turned "toxic" that it initiated a chain-reaction of events that led to the banking crisis. Trump is a very astute businessman. So, why is Cohn's history with the Rosenberg trial and with Joseph McCarthy (which would imply that he was anti-communist) have anything to do with Donald Trump? Cohn was a high-profile attorney; another of Cohn's clients was Alan Dershowitz. I just don't see the significance of the connection.
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            • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
              He was Trumps mentor. Cohn said #45 would call him 10-15 times a day.
              How did Donald Trump get to be the way he is? Many who have studied his past proffer advice on that question. Don’t forget, they say, the imprint left by Roy Cohn.

              Roy Cohn’s name first became known when he was senator Joseph McCarthy’s chief counsel during the campaign against alleged Communist sympathizers in the early 1950s. Mr. Cohn served as Mr. McCarthy’s henchman, specializing in character assassination.
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    • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 years, 1 month ago
      So, if there is further resistance, does the shooting war commence. It is beginning to look like there is no other alternative.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 1 month ago
        Ultimately, all wars start out as a war over ideas. I was listening to something the other day and someone said something really interesting. What they basically asserted was that conservatives and modern-day liberals - the typical power structures of government up to about the 1980's - were still interested (generally) in the same outcomes for Americans: better lives, independence, liberty, etc. They just disagreed about the best way to get there. Leftists/progressives on the other hand have a totally different vision for America, which is why they just can't be reasoned with or compromised with.

        I think that we actually have three parties now. We have the Freedom Caucus-types which I call traditional/conservative Republicans. These are the patriots who still hold to the values of the Founding Fathers. They comprise about half of the Republican elected representatives. Second are the "establishment" Republicans. These are typically the ones who have been in office so long and compromised on so many things in order to maintain power that they have lost a vision of where the Republic is headed. They drift with the political winds. Third are the Progressive Democrats/Leftists. These are the people who want to supercede the Constitution with various guaranteed "rights" which can only infringe on others' true rights, such as healthcare, education, and other services. Their vision of the United States is literally subversive, as they seek a one-world government and a return to elitism. They have a very clear vision.

        And so our nation is reaching a critical juncture: which vision will we pursue? We can not continue to choose a middle road as we have for the past 30 years because it is bankrupting us. We have to commit to either freedom and a return to Founding principles or we have to commit to socialism and the slavery which goes with that. Will that lead to actual bloodshed? I hope not, but it is not outside the bounds of possibility. We could end up fighting another civil war between those who would seek to enslave us through socialism versus those who seek to maintain their freedom and individual rights. I hope it does not happen, but if it does, I know which side I will be on.
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        • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 years, 1 month ago
          I like/agree with your description of the 3 groups. I would only add that there are a "few" establishment democrats in that second group. At this point, the vision of term limits is hopeless. So, it appears that we are left with leftists and conservatives. The division between the two is sooo wide that I fear a violent lead filled spasm could very easily occur. At that point America will have to go one of two ways. Unfortunately, the lefties have tunnel vision.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 1 month ago
    This is in all respects a civil war, but without the military aspects. There is no way I am going to give an inch to the leftists, and they are not going to give an inch to me. I voted fro Trump and I will be behind him until the leftists find some way to toss him out. When they do that, they will be tossing me out at the same time. At that point, it will be very hard to continue to support the USA in any form. If others feel the same way, it could split the country in very substantial ways. The leftists might consider just what they will lose when the producers withdraw their support.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 1 month ago
    First, let me say that Trump is not the first American President to be staring down the barrel of political rebellion, nor is it likely he will be the last. Andrew Jackson (another populist president) and Congress conducted open hostile relations even more virulent than the current flame wars. Lincoln had to deal with a real civil war. FDR dodged a bullet with the assassination of Huey P. Long, who proposed a very socialist path out of the depression, and who forced FDR into instituting Social Security. Harry Truman had to withstand the nametag of "accidental president," and a withering journalistic assault on him and his family. LBJ, the father of the Great Society, was run out of office (although his health was part of his decision) by the very same liberals who benefited from his efforts, motivated by antiwar sentiments.

    Democrats are by nature passive-aggressive cry-bullies. A strong stance is the best defense against their "power whining." It is becoming evident that there is no "there" there with respect to impeachable offenses on the part of President Trump, but the Democrats are staking their hopes on a campaign of endless accusations from now until the 2020 election, thinking they can impeach the president in the minds of American voters by innuendo. I predict this will backfire, when it becomes obvious to the voters that this Democrat House has no interest in passing legislation,and the moderate Democrats who managed to scratch out a win in 2018 will suffer for it, either "primaried out" in favor of more radical candidates, or defeated by Republicans.

    We are witnessing a party that is laying a minefield for its own candidates. Its leadership appears unable or unwilling to control its radical elements, out of fear that the effort could break up the party. A robust economy and near full employment makes it difficult for Democrats to claim they can make life better for the working man . . . who is already working and seeing his lot improve.

    What can we do to help defend individual freedom? Insist the GOP present a robust response to the cry for Medicare for all, since a concern over health care is at the top of the list of issues that American voters have. Right now, the plan for a market driven solid health care market is fragmented and incoherent, and needs a credible spokesperson. This issue alone could plunge us further into socialism.
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    • Posted by starznbarz 5 years, 1 month ago
      "Insist the GOP present a robust response..." There is the crux of the problem, we have "insisted" at the ballot box time after time only to sit quietly while our instructions, our very clear instructions, were simply ignored immediately following the votes being counted.
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    • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
      Hello Dr Z ,
      Thanks for your insight. A simple question. How do we hold their feet to the fire?
      Petitions?
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 1 month ago
        First, we challenge the representatives and senators (like Rand Paul) who are also physicians, to spearhead the effort to lay out a clear vision of a market-driven health care program. The aim would be to get the government out of the path between doctors and patients.

        There are bits and pieces, like health savings accounts, and ways to reduce the cost of drugs without crippling the pharmaceutical industry, subscriber services for basic medical care, low cost catastrophic insurance, and other ideas that have been waved around, but too many choices laid out in no coherent, unified fashion only confuses the voters, which is why the deceptively simple idea of Medicare for all has a seductive appeal.

        Those with medical experience have an obligation to lead others to a sensible organized plan that can show there is an appealing alternative to Obamacare and Medicare for all. We may have half a chance if we focus on that small group of elected officials.
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  • Posted by GaryL 5 years, 1 month ago
    You left out one of the most important facts in your list. House and Senate RINOs who have just as much to worry about if all their misdeeds are ever exposed. We keep reelecting these traitors and have only ourselves to blame for not being able to win the war we are surly in.
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  • Posted by mminnick 5 years, 1 month ago
    Rep J, Nadler plans of having 60 [ep[le supenaed on Monday. This is in addition to what Mueller has already collected. He is not even remotely limited as to what he can request. If they have to they will ask for every Tax return for Trump and his companies to find something they can turn into an Impeaxhment charge. (I know they really don't need this, but even the Dims are not stupid enough [yet] to bring an impeachment bill without some bare modicum of a "High Crime of Misdemeanor")
    This is nothing but a continuation of the DOJ/FBI attempt to defeat and destroy the President. Is is another shot in the civil war now raging in this country. It will not be the last or even the next to last. It is one of many lined up by the Doms in their quest to overturn and election and install their own part as supreme.
    If Trump goes V: Pence will be the next to go. They will also refuse to cnfirm President Pence's nominee for VP just to keep Nancy as the next president when they get rid of President Pence. Don't think that is not the plan of the Dims.
    Call it paranoia but I have heard that option discussed and debated by people I kow to be involved in Democrat politics.

    Just food for thought for the Citizens of the Gulch.
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    • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 years, 1 month ago
      DAMMIT mminnick......your food for thought just gave my brain a severe case of indigestion.
      I mean Pelousy even closer to the Presidency than she already is. Arrrrrrgggghhhh...my brain just barfed!!!
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    • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
      Trump has the Trump card .When does he play it?
      Declass brings down the house.
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      • Posted by RevJay4 5 years, 1 month ago
        When the time is right. I keep thinking of 4D chess when watching when Trump deals with all the crap from the left.
        They keep demanding more rope to hang themselves, and, Trump is letting them have it.
        It is getting closer to "declass" time. Think of a time when the left will have very little time to recover from the exposure of declass.
        Sorta like what happened to the Hag.
        Maybe, its just me.
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  • Posted by Solver 5 years, 1 month ago
    Big, Big things happening in the next 19 days?
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    • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
      Someones keeping up! ;:)
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      26 Feb 2019 - 3:49:44 PM
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      26 Feb 2019 - 3:41:14 PM
      Feeling like Anons in US will be up late tonight following POTUS/Q in Vietnam.
      >>5401939
      It's going to be HISTORIC!
      Planned long ago.
      [-21]
      Within the next 21 days BIG BIG BIG HAPPENINGS are going to take place.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 1 month ago
        Today is the 21st day deadline stated above.
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        • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
          Big —— Bruce Orr testimony
          Big—— Lisa Page Testimony
          Big —— Peter Strzok Testimony
          These interviews revealed direct evidence that will
          Convict many of Treason.
          THE REAL PANIC COMES IN THE FORM OF A LAST RESORT
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          18 Mar 2019 - 6:24:09 PM
          [MUELLER] REPORT DELAY?
          PANIC IN DC?
          THE REAL PANIC COMES IN THE FORM OF A LAST RESORT.
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          Last Time There Was a Countdown (Huber Testimony) the Deep State Organized a Funeral (GHW Bush)
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          18 Mar 2019 - 6:17:04 PM
          What occurred the last time a countdown was presented?
          [FF]
          Do you believe in coincidences?
          Never interfere with an enemy……..
          Ammunition is hard to come by.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 1 month ago
        5 days to go.
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        • Posted by 5 years ago
          50x 2 years of this inside job in the US this sedation and subversion. Intended to obliterate the constitution to destroy freedom for all so to speak.
          From Brian Cates @drawandstrike Epoch Times
          I'm still laughing my ass off at those who think the entire plot was exposed, aired out in public for the last year and a half so that.......... [can you believe this? I mean, really?] they can let all the plotters walk away. My God some people are dumb.
          Remember what I told you earlier - I wrote columns about it. The Trump admin strategy on the SpyGate investigations/prosecutions/indictments is not to comment or even acknowledge their existence until they are ready.
          https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-the...
          How the DC Leak Culture Was Made Powerless to Thwart Spygate Investigations
          http://www.theepochtimes.com
          There have been two competing narratives when it comes to the Spygate scandal. The first narrative is that ...
          NOW READ THIS LETTER from Reps. Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, in which they demand new AG William Barr give them an update on the criminal referral they made to the DOJ about Andrew McCabe more than a year ago.
          https://republicans-oversight.house.g...
          NOWHERE in their letter do the two House Reps even mention or acknowledge the fact there's already a grand jury investigation of McCabe being led by US Attorneys. The existence of that grand jury was revealed in a leak last September 6.
          https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-a...
          The Silent Professionals
          http://www.theepochtimes.com
          While members on Robert Mueller's team have engaged in frequent media leaks, a group of prosecutors has quietly been investigating corruption.
          Note they don't ask for any update on the GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION into McCabe that had been meeting for 'months' by the time it was revealed last September
          If these guys are playing a role of being clueless, they are doing a really great job of it. /end
          Look at the opinion polls on SpyGate. THE GROUND HAS BEEN PREPARED. The _majority of those polled now understand what happened. A year and a half ago, was that true? OF COURSE NOT. The constant drip-drip-drip rollout of the plot, carefully managed, has done it's work
          If Trump launched major prosecutions in 2017, without public support & tried to explain after the fact, how well would that have worked, do you think?
          Even mid 2018 the ground wasn't ready yet. But now it is. Many commentators never had any real faith in Trump to begin with, and are right now spinning tales about how he's stupidly been fooled again by appointing Barr, etc. etc. argle bargle barf.
          You just got done watching Trump epically troll DC over the wall funding. He knew all along he was going to get the $ from the DoD as CinC and Congress couldn't do jack to stop him. How many MONTHS did it take him to set that up?
          What we call "SpyGate" is more massive and far reaching than most of you know. I've tried to explain the actual scope of this several times, then I gave it and decided to just let it happen. U1 Russian moles Massive bribery scandals Illegal spying on Congress.
          Entire CIA networks being rolled up. Massive exposure of top classified intelligence, including Special Access Programs. Most people have NO IDEA this goes far beyond just spying on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.
          People who keep screaming "Well hurry up already!!!!" have no idea of the real scope and how far reaching this is. This had to be carefully managed to avoid a societal collapse. I am not joking.
          When you _begin* rolling all this out, the ground has to be ready or there will be massive upheaval. The extent and depth of the corruption is staggering. Trump had to solidfy control of fed. agencies chock full of spies and saboteurs. That was literally ALL of 2017, part 2018
          When this gets rolled out, Democrats, DNC Media, Never Trump, etc. are going to realize that it's really being done, they're serious about not just airing all this stuff out but also about prosecuting the people that did it, they are going to TRY to literally start a civil war.
          So people who say Trump & his team 'should have' pulled the trigger on this back in 2017 were always clueless. They didn't understand the extent of this and that country ITSELF hangs in the balance if this is mishandled.
          So no, the perps are NOT going to be allowed to walk away scott free after all that they were doing has been fully exposed to the public. But the public exposure had to come FIRST and had be accepted by MOST of the public before taking the next step
          And people who can't see that or accept that have more problems than I can help them with. Trump knows what he's doing. /end
          ADDENDUM: forgot a point I was going to make. In 2017 we had ANTIFA holding major riots in many large cities, remember THAT? Now thanks to Sessions & others, they were dispersed and now only cause problems in deepest blue places like Portland, Oregon.


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          https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/sta...
          The attempted 'COUP' [TREASON] opens the 'public' door to more serious……
          The PILL must be easy to swallow.
          The 'LEAD-IN'.
          The PUBLIC must be prepared for what is about to come.
          "THE CLINTON FOUNDATION" +++++++++++++++++++++++++
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 5 years, 1 month ago
    I wonder how far is the Dem's from a full out Coup d'etat. Like going to the Oval Office and demanding President Trump's resignation, then going after VP Pence so Nancy P. to become the defacto President. I despise the democrat who wants to destroy the entire Trump family plus their real estate empire. Even NY State is getting into the act. I don't think there has been a time in American History such events like this has happened. The swamp, dimms, the media & some rhinos are trying to rewrite the Constitution to their own personal desires. I don't understand how some of these Dimm' got elected to Congress. Maybe I do, they lied to their electorate so frequently that it came across as the truth. Just like Kirsten Sinema did here in Az. She preyed upon the senior citizens and promising better government health benefits. now that's null and void seeing Dimms are going all out to depose the President.
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    • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
      Sinema was voter fraud pure and simple. Rep governor Dooley takes Maricopa cty by 200,000 votes and the dem senator wins by 60,000 it doesn’t make any sense. Does #45 have a Trump card?
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  • Posted by 5 years, 1 month ago
    Q!!mG7VJxZNCI 12 Mar 2019 - 1:55:14 PM

    >Decide for yourself (be free from outside opinion).
    >Decide for yourself (be objective in your conclusions).
    >Decide for yourself (be true in your own beliefs).
    >Decide for yourself (be open to following the facts).
    >Decide for yourself (be strong in defending your beliefs).
    >Decide for yourself (be resistant to blindly accepting fact-less statements).
    >Decide for yourself (be free)
    Those who attack you.
    Those who mock you.
    Those who cull you.
    Those who control you.
    Those who label you.
    Do they represent you?
    Or, do they represent themselves (in some form)?
    Mental Enslavement.
    The Great Awakening ('Freedom of Thought’), was designed and created not only as a backchannel to the public (away from the longstanding ‘mind’ control of the corrupt & heavily biased media) to endure future events through transparency and regeneration of individual thought (breaking the chains of ‘group-think’), but, more importantly, aid in the construction of a vehicle (a ‘ship’) that provides the scattered (‘free thinkers’) with a ‘starter’ new social-networking platform which allows for freedom of thought, expression, and patriotism or national pride (the feeling of love, devotion and sense of attachment to a homeland and alliance with other citizens who share the same sentiment).
    When ‘non-dogmatic’ information becomes FREE & TRANSPARENT it becomes a threat to those who attempt to control the narrative and/or the stable.
    When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’.
    "Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma.
    When you are awake, you are able to clearly see.
    The choice is yours, and yours alone.
    Trust and put faith in yourself.
    You are not alone and you are not in the minority.
    Difficult truths will soon see the light of day.
    WWG1WGA!!!
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