Nicholas Sandmann's Family Makes Major Move Against Fake News

Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 3 months ago to News
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WCPO reports that the family has hired L. Lin Wood, whom disgraced former journalist Dan Rather described as the "attorney for the damned" and who is known for "aggressive libel and slander suits against media organizations."
A newspaper reporter for 7 years during the Seventies, me dino learned in Troy State's journalism school that libel is written defamation and slander is spoken definition. I also learned not to do it. So, duh, I didn't.
And me dino would like to add, "Hey, Fake News! Reach for your wallets! They are about to be picked clean! You stupid pathetic fools! Bwahahaha!"


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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You do know your guns and ammo sharper than I do. I have six firearms. Living in Alabama,I conceal carry a 9mm Sig pocket pistol. Invited to a dove shoot back during the 90s, I bought an a Remington 12-guage pump pretty much like I had to annually NRA qualify with for tower duty at the prison I used to work at. Shot a mess of dove on that hunt by the way. Have a 9mm glove compartment gun that fires 17 shots.
    When Clinton said, "My dream is open borders" and I thought she'd win, I had a 30-shot 9mm carbine custom made with a AR-15 frame that I named "The Evil Hag."
    I also have a Smith & Wesson 357 Magnum with four speed loaders and .32-cal. Beretta Tomcat that shoots very straight for a little gun.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Catholicism is the source of the modern anti-abortion movement. It's long ideological and political record of opposing both abortion and contraception is based on the religious mystical notion of a sacred "soul". It has led to great confusion by those prone to accept the religious idea of rights as intrinsic to whatever is gentically "human" as opposed to a moral concept objectively based on the requirements of the nature of a human being as a person, thereby sacrificing a woman's right to her own body for the sake of the mystical. A fetus is not a "baby".

    The article's attempt to promote rejection (which is widespread) of Catholic dogma and its violation of human rights as the cause of the ethnicity mongering by the "Native Elder" and his leftist supporters makes no sense.

    Dino: Me dino gave you a +1. You have a right to your anti-religion opinion. That is a lot better than the handful of religionists who militantly push their dogmas and try to undermine reasoned discussion on what is supposed to be an Ayn Rand forum. But reason, not faith, on such a forum is expected to be the normal, not an outlier only tolerated by right.
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks - its been an interest of mine for a long time. I've got a nice gun collection, mostly Winchesters (but I like Weatherbys and Marlins too). You were correct about how cowboys in the early days used the same ammo for both rifles and handguns (in .44-40). If you put a .44-40 cartridge right alongside a modern .44 Magnum, it would be hard to tell the difference with the naked eye, but the .44 Magnum has almost twice the muzzle energy. Originally, the nomenclature was "bullet caliber-# of grains of black powder charge", so the .44-40 was a .44" diameter bullet, with 40 grains of black powder behind it. (The .44 Henry Rimfire typically had 28-30 grains of black powder, so the .44-40 was a significant increase in power.) "Smokeless" powder didn't replace black powder until around 1893-94, with the .30-40 Krag, but the now-famous .30-30 WCF (Winchester Centerfire) was close on its heels (1895). The Winchester Model 1894 came chambered in the .30-30, with better metallurgy (to withstand the greater pressures of smokeless powder)... cool stuff!
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll accept your expertise. What I read I read decades ago and do not remember the source.
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  • Posted by exceller 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, those hate messages on FB and Twitter were all quietly deleted, as you said.

    Who will go after them? The Muslim woman from Minn, or the others? They are like criminals hiding in the dark now. You can't expect a democrat to own up to his/her vicious attack when it proves false. That describes their "moral" superiority very well. AOC better pay attention to facts, vs parroting her juvenile lectures on morality.
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Original Winchester 1873s were not chambered in .45 Colt (it was a Colt proprietary cartridge at the time), but you could get both Winchester Model 1873s and Colt Single Action Army revolvers chambered in .44-40. (Modern reproductions of the Winchester '73 are available in .45 Colt for Cowboy Action Shooting competitions.) So, it is true that cowboys and other settlers in the Old West could buy just one type of ammo and use it for both their rifles and their sidearms. Another interesting tidbit about the M1873 and the .44-40: It was the first commercial centerfire metallic cartridge, which means it was reloadable - a big deal in the Old West when you were far from the nearest General Store. The earlier Henry rifle (and the "Improved Henry" also known as the Winchester Model 1866, or "Golden Boy") fired the .44 Henry Rimfire, which was not reloadable.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino recalls reading that Winchester and Colt were loaded with the same .45 round. That added to the speed of loading when surrounded by whoever may be hostile.
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 7 years, 2 months ago
    I don't have a MAGA hat (yet, but maybe I should get one). I do have two camo-style Winchester hats. One is more subdued, but the other has "Winchester" in big bold red letters on the front. As many already know, Winchester was (along with Colt) the "Gun that Won the West." I wonder how Nathan Phillips would like my Winchester hat?
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  • Posted by hattrup 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps not this religious organization...the abuse track record is pretty ugly, and maturity is not a real organization objective. Although MSM does set a pretty low bar.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino is anti-abortion and I'm not even Catholic.
    Called on the phone today I pledged $60 or more to a group supporting federal legislation against murdering late very term babies or even just after they are born.
    Fresh in my thinking is that new law that has just been passed sicko lib politicians in New York State.
    Me dino gave you a +1. You have a right to your anti-religion opinion.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The racial hatred and irrationalism from the ethnicity-mongers is much deeper than their hatred for hats and Trump.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fake News and much of the social media viciously libeled and slandered those kids solely because of those MAGA caps and a sick belief hat Trump must be dumped at any cost.
    The rest were too easily persuaded ignorant for useful idiot sheeple and a pliable for a frightened Catholic clergy.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The first step in a libel or slander suit is usually to demand a public retraction, which is what their lawyer did in this case, so as a practical matter for this case that answers your question.

    Whether or not they could have proceeded more aggressively because of the open recklessness and malice possibly resulting in permanent damage to reputation is a good question. But be careful in advocating pursuing the media and politicians to go after their tendency for inaccuracy because that approach soon runs up against the principle of freedom of speech, and without tha,t together with leftist judges deciding on punishment for what is allowed in speech, we are all finished.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The wrap up smear is what the deep state is doing to Trump with the Russian collusion lies.
    The evil hags team creates a phony dossier (the smear)
    It is given to Sen “no name”
    He shops it to Buzzfeed and yahoo.
    The fact that it was reported by them is part of the evidence used to get a FISA warrant. For the purpose to spy and then call for a special council to investigate with the intent to impeach Trump.
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  • Posted by NealS 7 years, 2 months ago
    I was wondering, if those people that made public comment (smears) about these minor children apologized immediately, can they still be held liable for their original comments? Situation being, any and all of those comments created situations where there were bomb threats, death threats, etc. that may have influenced the rest of the lives of those minors, their parents, and many others that verbally supported them. Most of my questions are based on what Nancy Pelosi taught us about politics, The Wrap-Up Smear, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...

    In context her speech really was broadcasting her own smear by saying that the Wrap-Up Smear was a tactic used by Republicans, basically that Democrats didn't use it. I imagine then that the Republicans must have used it against Kavanaugh, the border issues, racial issues, Israel, and, well everthing? I can see where it's been used by both (all) parties, but the volumes and mendaciousness of Smears, in my opinion, come from Democrats. It seems they bring out the accusing details in order to be the first to expose and blame someone else in order to cover up exactly what they are doing. Their follows only hear their claims and nothing else.

    In any case, I just hope that Wood is successful in bringing justice to the political and personal BS that so many of them are spewing today. It would be great if his suits were for all the students that were there that day and their families, and everyone else connected to this atrocity. If not perhaps he can at least set a precedent and more suits can follow. I would like to see a court order that actually brings someone like CNN down to total bankruptcy. That would make my day, well actually that would make my whole year.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If the teenagers have been led to believe that it would have been proper to throw them out if they had denigrated ethnicity mongering it will be yet another bad lesson for them.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 7 years, 2 months ago
    These innocent kids were caught in the middle of two groups of vicious, hateful adults. They and all those who posted racial, hateful lies about these kids need to pay. And this has got to stop. Just my two cents.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The church can’t take any more bad press?

    Now that would be a great lesson for the kids! Perhaps they will reject the clown church or become Lutherans.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is one worthy fantasy. Now me dino wants that too. I even want to buy CNN. First thing I'll do is fire all the nasty talking heads and have cleaning crews scrub the floors and wipe down everything else.with strong antiseptic solutions. Even the ceilings will be cleaned.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting to note how much fanfare there was when these ugly tweets were originally posted, and how they were ever-so-quietly deleted once the full story was (finally!) shown.

    I have this fantasy about hitting a zillion dollars in one of the lotteries, setting aside enough for my wife and me to live comfortably for the rest of our lives (in a MUCH warmer climate, I might add), and spending every remaining dollar to buy one of these newspapers-turned-rag sheet and try and to make it an actual NEWS paper again. (edited to add a missed word)
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