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Are there Nazis spreading the myth that the left calls everyone a Nazi?

Posted by Solver 5 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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Found this “debate” in an interesting forum thread,

“There are Nazis and they use clever techniques to advance their cause. One such technique is spreading the myth that the left calls everyone a Nazi and that it's actually a useless, meaningless term. It is not.
That's the point you're being asked to refute.”

Is this what the left is being taught? This part of this debate is post #74
Anyone want to “refute” this?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/...

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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 5 years, 4 months ago
    Nazi is such an ugly word! It should be used with great caution. It is being overused and misused in this generation. The significance is lost if you use it indiscriminately for minor happenstances!
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 4 months ago
      Me dino has decided that should a lib call me a Nazi, a racist or anything else on their standard list of name-callings, I'm going to ask why are they using hate speech.on me.
      Should my accuser argue, me dino shall begin to roar, "Hate speech! Hate speech! Hate speech!"
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    • Posted by Solver 5 years, 4 months ago
      There are worst words that start with “N.” An unspeakable word that can get you kicked off a forum, a social media site or even fired from your job.
      Not quite as bad as the punishment for speaking the unspeakable word in Anthem.
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  • Posted by Solver 5 years, 4 months ago
    As an aside, the Libertarian that started the forum thread got kicked off the forum for five days. Here are his words about this after the five days:

    “The irony of there being a thread about hate speech and censorship, and my getting banned for 5 days for posting a simple pic of Trump saying word "Wrong" as the caption, in response to someone making a snide comment to me... priceless...

    This is the problem with hate speech. There is no such thing. There is no real definition. It's whatever the person wants it to be, and it will be different things to different things to different people, and change over time, etc...

    What hate speech is, is an arbitrary label. It's is a means to slap a label on something you don't like, so that you can "justify" banning the person, or silencing them. More comments, but I will make a dedicated thread to discuss censorship in general...”

    The posts about the current Nazi conspiracy is in his dedicated thread.
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/...
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    • Posted by exceller 5 years, 4 months ago
      Political correctness, aka PC, aka as censorship, is not new.

      The communists used it throughout their days to keep them in power.

      Everyone was aware they were lies and no one believed a word printed in the papers. But on the surface all was in order and in perfect compliance.

      Elections went in favor of the one and only party by 110%.

      Communism failed in Russia and the satellite countries, but in fact it is alive and well throughout Western Europe and South America.

      The Europeans appear to be waking up but aside from a few countries the majority is still deeply rooted in communist rules, with increasing burdens.
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      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 5 years, 4 months ago
        There is the tactic of putting a name on an argument and then treating it as unacceptable.

        So, if you question any aspect of the Global Warming theory you are a "denier" which makes you like a holocaust denier.

        If you wondered whether Barack Obama, who's Mother spent much of the time around his birth overseas actually was born in the U.S. you were a 'birther'. He finally released a birth certificate after Trump climbed on that band wagon.

        The new one I'm encountering is Whataboutism -- which is used to keep you from pointing out that the latest "outrage" is actually a continuation of normal practice.

        Anything to rule the argument "off limits" and avoid having to deal with it.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 5 years, 4 months ago
    This is all in the name of Political/Social Correctness Speak. Coming January the US is on the verge of Atlas Shrugged and George Orwell's 1984 (maybe should be titled 2019) scenarios. The Democratic House of Rep. and now other recently elected Democrats will try to do a Coup d'etat of the duly elected President and silence those that oppose them. Ordinary citizens, freedom of speech on social media might be crushed by political/Social Correct programmed algorithms. Companies such as Facebook. Google (could take down websites) and YouTube will be even more aggressive to assert their own agendas.
    Call me what you want, I still consider myself a Revolutionary.
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  • Posted by chad 5 years, 4 months ago
    Calling people names is when you assign a name that doesn't fit the actions of the individual. Classifying someone is different than using emotion associated with the name of evil to get others to think wrongly of the accused. The left (socialists) often use this tactic by calling conservatives NAZIS or identifying the NAZIS as the culmination of right wing politics. Using the term NAZIS, even when correctly identifying someone's political ambitions, is probably a waste of time because it will cause an emotional reaction instead of a thoughtful intelligent one, as in; "Am I a NAZI by my actions?" Use of words even accurately may destabilize the argument if your ultimate goal is to teach, to understand or to be understood. Is it a myth that the left calls everyone a Nazi? Probably because it is unlikely that everyone receives this label, but the left does use it.
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  • Posted by Leonid 5 years, 4 months ago
    Thank you guys for bringing up the list of labels which average SJW/progressivist uses instead arguments and thinking.Sometimes I feel that I talk to obsolete software which is even not AI
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  • Posted by jimslag 5 years, 4 months ago
    What the Left does not get is that they call themselves Socialists, well Nazi actually stands for National Socialists Party. So the people calling you Nazi are actually Nazi's themselves.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 5 years, 4 months ago
    So the point is that the Nazis spread the myth that the left calls everyone they disagree with a Nazi? I'm already lost...
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    • Posted by Solver 5 years, 4 months ago
      That’s the claim. And maybe that is what the left is being taught now. Someone on the left dares the claim be refuted.

      Personally I think this is great material for comedy skit.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 5 years, 4 months ago
        My perspective. The left absolutely is owning this sandbox called social media. They see what a valuable weapon it can be in their cause. Over the past several years I have even seen people I have known my whole life go all-in via social media - attacking any conservative they knew with pretty severe vitriol. For a while I didn't get it. I do now. They inherently are drawn to doing this. They automatically see value in it. Instinct...like "the Nazis". It's interesting to watch from afar. Level-minded people, though, need to understand that's part of the environment they're playing in.

        Check out the interview with Laura Loomer by Stephan Molyneoux asap. Very enlightening...
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