The White House Hopes You Were Too Busy Shopping to Hear About Its Horrifying Climate Change Report

Posted by  $  nickursis 2 weeks, 1 day ago to Science
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Classic deep state.A whole bunch of bureaucrats get together and throw around all these unverifiable figures, and say the world is ending, while they are rescuing seat turtles from freezing waters, and the country from midwest to east is under unusually early snow, all courtesy of the Grand Solar Minimum, which history says is going to kill a boatload more people than their fantasy. History doesn't lie, deep state does....
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  • Posted by  $  WilliamShipley 2 weeks ago
    In arguing with someone over this, I mentioned that no one ever talks about the benefits of warming (sadly I think we are cooling -- see the sunspots).

    Even the IPCC said with respect to the UK in 2007: " Annual heat-related deaths increase from 798 in 1990s to 2,793 in 2050s and 3,519 in the 2080s under the medium-high scenario. Annual cold-related deaths decrease from 80,313 in 1990s to 60,021 in 2050s and 51,243 in 2080s under the medium-high scenario." Have you ever seen a headline that says "IPCC reports that Global Warming will save 17,000 people annually in the U.K."? Have you ever seen a report that mentioned ANYTHING positive about warming, even though the great periods of expansion and exploration were times of warming.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_...

    And, interestingly I found a really interesting study in the Lancet which studied temperature related mortality in a number of countries in different climates. Unsurprisingly, extreme heat and cold are dangerous, as is persistent heat, but the vast majority of the deaths come from persistent cold.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 1 week, 6 days ago
    Climate Change has now become a religion. It's one that many misinformed, uneducated and illiterate people believe in. They believe that it is caused by our civilization. Even Al Gore got into the act basically agreeing with the government report, paraphrasing: I told you so! No one understands that all the dire predictions are a result of computer algorithms. The swamp creatures only input the climate models that suit their own agenda's. That whole document is to solely manipulate the un/misinformed American public. As far as I'm concerned it's Fake News!
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    • Posted by  $  Temlakos 1 week, 6 days ago
      Al Gore is a d____d hypocrite. If he really believed one-tenth of his own message, he would have sold off that mansion of his long ago, and learned to get by with public, or at least mass, transport only, flown commercially, the whole nine yards.
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  • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 2 weeks, 1 day ago
    They also thought the oceans were heating up, every pier review agreed until an objective pier called them out in what was a yuge! error...they had no choice but to recant but the article was still printed,(doubling down with a revision that made the global ocean warming go away.)
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    • Posted by  $  2 weeks, 1 day ago
      Well, they do seem to want to keep repeating it, in a different way, to try to scare the sheeple...go look at "slave planet" (link above). If that isn't a deep state "mess them up with crap" website.....
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      • Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 2 weeks, 1 day ago
        Data earth map representation is not even close...laughing...how would they explain all the crop losses to freezing ice and snow storms in may june and july, not to mention 3 years of no fruit production in western europe...how could anyone living in these areas justify what they are showing.
        Easy...they are not looking at that site...
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        • Posted by  $  2 weeks, 1 day ago
          Yep, they have never heard of Diamond and Oppenheimer Ranch, he illustrates all this daily with facts, not hype. He just culls the news for the facts that show what is really going on, not "reports" from tainted sources.
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  • Posted by  $  Dobrien 2 weeks, 1 day ago
    Funny how wrong these geniuses can be.
    SUNSPOTS VANISHING FASTER THAN EXPECTED: Sunspots are becoming scarce. Very scarce. So far in 2018 the sun has been blank almost 60% of the time, with whole weeks going by without sunspots. Today's sun, shown here in an image from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, is typical of the featureless solar disk:



    The fact that sunspots are vanishing comes as no surprise. Forecasters have been saying for years that this would happen as the current solar cycle ("solar cycle 24") comes to an end. The surprise is how fast.

    "Solar cycle 24 is declining more quickly than forecast," stated NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center on April 26th.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 1 week, 6 days ago
    Never forget that climate change is a powerful political tool. That is far more important than its scientific reality. Climate change can be used to enhance political power. That is reality.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks ago
    IMHO, the ONLY true indicator of serious "global warming" would be the massive sell off and price drop of choice beach front property. Not happening any time soon.

    Also, the dastardly date of doom keeps moving into the future. In my lifetime I've seen doom predictions of 1990 (nope), 2000 (missed it again), 2012 (made a movie about that one), 2020 (not looking good), and the most recent from the failing NYT: 2040 and maybe I'll live long enough to see that one go by as well.
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    • Posted by TheOldMan 1 week, 6 days ago
      l have seen the population explosion doom (1970), the new Ice Age doom (1975), the Nuclear Winter doom (1980s), the Acid Rain doom (1980s). Same failure, different doom.
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      • Posted by  $  Flootus5 1 week, 4 days ago
        And don't forget the Ozone Hole crisis. Man, they are creative!
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        • Posted by lrshultis 1 week, 3 days ago
          There is a binary star system which has a chance of a super gamma ray burst about 8000 light years away which, if pointed toward the Earth, would strip the atmosphere of ozone. If that and a possible asteroid might hit in the not too far future, the sky is falling idiots have a lot to fall back on if the catastrophic climate change guess does not work out.
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          • Posted by  $  1 week, 3 days ago
            True, there is always a catastrophe waiting, as the deep state says "never let a good crisis go to waste" (Rahm Emmanual, mayor of the great gun restricting, murder ridden deep state of shi#cago). So one wonders, why no effort to get off this rock since the 70's?
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      • Posted by mccannon01 1 week, 6 days ago
        Exactly, TheOldMan! Those were some of the details in my mind when I made my generalized post. I can still recall Leonard Nimoy on the program "In Search Of" insisting New York City would be under a glacier by the year 2000 because of man made global cooling. Hey, thou shalt not argue with Spock! LOL!
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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 1 day ago
    I don't know about you, nick, but I always get my science news from GQ.
    ;^)
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    • Posted by  $  2 weeks, 1 day ago
      Well, it is hard to find reliable lies but here we go for alternatives:

      https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...

      Fat Al is back togrub more money, as he personally cotributes as much as a small city to the problem with his "perks"....

      http://www.newser.com/story/267677/go...

      https://www.eenews.net/stories/106009...

      Here is the horses mouth:

      https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

      Now, their charter seems self serving:

      The Global Change Research Act of 1990 mandates that the U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) deliver a report to Congress and the President no less than every four years that “1) integrates, evaluates, and interprets the findings of the Program…; 2) analyzes the effects of global change on the natural environment, agriculture, energy production and use, land and water resources, transportation, human health and welfare, human social systems, and biological diversity; and 3) analyzes current trends in global change, both human-induced and natural, and projects major trends for the subsequent 25 to 100 years.”1

      So, I am not exactly sure all this is based on cold, hard factual science. Besides, they still didn't explain why the turtles were not told....:)
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      • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 1 day ago
        So they puff up the problem in order to get more funding. Meanwhile, if they succeed, the result is that innocent people die and trillion$ in economic value is destroyed. Not much different than the thugs from BATF and FBI murdering innocents at Waco. In this case they haven't wielded the match that burns people to death; instead they waste assets that could have kept innocents from freezing to death. Damned looters.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 1 week, 4 days ago
    I wonder why Nickursis posted this article under its original (false) title?

    It makes it look like the WH was to blame for some horrendous crime, as the left always implies.

    These days there is no difference between the NYT or the WSJ. The latter has graduated to a new low level.
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    • Posted by  $  1 week, 3 days ago
      Ah, read the comment I made "classic deep state". That was exactly what they were trying to do, Yet go look at who made the report. More deep state. It is like the force, it surrounds and penetrates. Only this is the dark side....Don't ignore their propaganda because it is disturbing and you can see it is manipulative. Use it as a starting point and go back and then you see who also is playing in the game, and just how deep the rot is. Know thy enemy...
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      • Posted by  $  exceller 1 week, 3 days ago
        I get that.

        But posting a title which is what the opposition says/thinks make generate the false impression that the title is true.

        Many people don't read the article only the title and they are left with the impression of what the title claims.

        The WSJ does that all the time. Their titles are in clash with the contents and despite of getting drubbed every day for it by readers, they keep doing it.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 1 week, 6 days ago
    I read in the paper (in an editorial, I think) that Greenland was once warm (hence its name). Being in an editorial, it may have been an opinion, but it seems likely to be true.
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    • Posted by  $  1 week, 6 days ago
      I just saw an episode of uncovering history or some such on Discovery, and lo and behold they were in greenland, talking to dudes who are excavating the Viking settlements and answering all those silly questions like how warm it was, they raised sheep and hunted walrus up there, farmed etc. But the grand solar minimum will knock them back, just ask the turtles...
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  • Posted by preimert1 1 week, 6 days ago
    President Trump has an ally in Brazil's new president elect Jair Bolsonaro when it comes to the climate change hoax. (http://enews.earthlink.net/article/to...) Bolsonaro has the right idea in cutting back the Brazilian rain forest and allowing producers to graze cattle and grow more soy beans on the land. Dire warnings of statist- sponsored climate scientists to the contrary.

    If president Trump would allow clear cutting of federal forest land here in California, it would greatly reduce incidence of these massive forest fires, produce more timber for home construction while making more land available for new homes. What's not to like. To hell with all those libtard tree hugging scientists.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 5 days ago
      It's not the forest fires that are the problem. It's the fact that people are building homes in the forest because the forest is an attractive place to live. (If the forest was not there it would be an ugy desert- like so much of southern CA would be without all the water coming from the Colorado river- the source of water outside of CA.) If there weren't any homes in the forest there would be no liberal outcry to "do something."
      Typical liberals- they cause a problem themselves and then insist that government steal our money to protect the liberals property.
      If you want to live in the forest, then accept the danger yourself (not you specifically, preimert1;^) and pay for it yourself when the forest burns down your house. Its like a hurricane hitting coastal homes, or floods on flood plains. When you choose to build your house in a dangerous area, then it's your problem. Don't insist that others pay for your bad decisions.
      (Yes, I agree, government agencies are not managing the forests on federal property as well as private owners could. This issue has been exposed for many years by people like Randall O'Toole at Liberty magazine. See Fraud in the Forest - http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/f...
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      • Posted by preimert1 1 week, 4 days ago
        Thanks, FFA. (The link you cited failed BTW) Since I live close to a beach in SC we don't have many trees and less than a third of our water comes from the Colorado. Most of it comes by aquaduct from up north plus ground water. We also use a lot of recycled water for irrigation and salt water barrier wells. The recent Malibu fire consumed mostly chaparral and liberal sho biz
        folks' beach houses. I really feel sorry for the folks in Paradise who have lived there since 1850 gold rush days.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 4 days ago
          I also feel sorry for the long time residents and
          I'm glad you aren't as dependent on the river as Imperial Valley- where a large portion of the US winter vegetable crop grows, preimert1.

          Per these articles SC get 60-65% of its water from the Colorado,
          https://lao.ca.gov/1997/101697_colora...
          http://www.crwua.org/colorado-river/m...
          I think CA cut some use from the Colorado in 2003 and will have to cut more if the system drops lower per this article:
          https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...
          "Imperial Irrigation District and other farm districts in southeastern California control roughly 75% of California’s 4.4 million-acre-foot share."
          I hope that global cooling starts to build up the snow and the Colorado system recovers and can continue to provide a supply for farmers.
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          • Posted by  $  1 week, 3 days ago
            That is a completely reasonable position, given the evidence so far this year. Even with a GSM, it will take time, and I have not seen anyone making a reasonable effort at what the overall global climate will look like, SC could still be hosed, if the overall winds shift to northeast or southeast instead of prevailing west. Need to see if anyone has something on that.
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      • Posted by  $  1 week, 5 days ago
        The ability to live in the forest is not rocket science. Metal roofs reduce the odds of your house burning by 50%, and you can install an external sprinkler that runs on batteries and have a in ground tank as a reserve for it, will preserve the house. Its not too hard. It just may violate their sensibilities, need to merge with the herd, and all the HOA agreements, so thats their problem.
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    • Posted by preimert1 1 week, 5 days ago
      Right. The best way to reduce or eliminate forest fires is to get rid of all the trees. Its true that they produce some oxygen, but I read where most of it comes from comes from plankton in the oceans.
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    • Posted by  $  1 week, 5 days ago
      I agree with the Kalifornia position, but disagree with Rainforest. Basically, they have no idea what is in it, biologically, many discoveries made there. Also, just like the global warming loons, they do not understand the full impat of the rain-forest ecologically in the overall weather and climate system. It does act as a huge carbon sink, but also generates massive water vapor and oxygen. I hate to see them trash something no one fully understands, then go, "oops" afterwards...A lot of the "farming" is incredibly inefficient, and grazing can just create a desert, ask the Midwest, the dust-bowl was born from sheep grazing in the early part of the 30th century. Along came a warming trend and poof, you are screwed.
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      • Posted by LibertyBelle 1 week, 5 days ago
        Don't you mean "1930's"? Or "20th century"? (addressed to nickursis).
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        • Posted by  $  1 week, 4 days ago
          Ooops, good catch, early 20th century. Sheep replaced cattle after cattle over grazed a huge part of the west and then the sheep were all that could survive, much as many parts of Austrailia do today.
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          • Posted by LibertyBelle 1 week, 4 days ago
            The problem is that people don't just try to persuade people regarding their ideas (or "discoveries") about nature; they try to enshrine their discoveries into law and force them onto people by government edict.--And if some "discovery" turns out to be a mistake, it is all the harder to correct it then, and free people from it.
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            • Posted by  $  1 week, 3 days ago
              Exactly, look at Paris and Macron getting people so angry over fuel price increases to "pay for clean energy, whether you want it or not" all to do France's part in stopping the unstoppable. Bet 0 of that money goes into anything.
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