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Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites and what was their part in the Covington controversy?

Posted by  $  Olduglycarl 6 months, 3 weeks ago to News
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At the beginning of the video footage you can see that the black Israelite were verbally attacking the indians. The kids ended up in the middle of this, accidentally preventing an escalation of the tensions only to be attacked by both sides.

In 1886, Chattanooga, Tennessee, a former railroad worker named Frank Cherry established the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Ground of Truth for All Nations. (Yes, that was the full church name.) He mixed together elements of Judaism and Christianity, and believed that African Americans were descendants of the original tribes of Israel. He preached that these Israelite ancestors were chased out of Babylon into central and western Africa where they were eventually sold into slavery by the Romans. He believed that Adam, Eve, and Jesus were black. Cherry also preached that whites are inherently evil and hated by God.
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  • Posted by  $  Solver 6 months, 3 weeks ago
    As long as it is preached that black people cannot be racist and enough people believe this, then racist black people will have free reign to be racist.

    This preaching is all over the Internet, in the schools and spreading like wildfire.
    https://star.txstate.edu/2016/02/blac...
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    • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
      Thanks Obama, for promoting entitlement among blacks. The country was pretty much getting to be OK with blacks UNTIL Obama. Now, its regressed many years as the blacks have become entitled and forcing themselves on the other races. Why are they are allowed to be "better than other people"? I dont think so, and just stay away from black people as much as possible.
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      • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
        When will they ever get that all we ever complained about was the behaviors of a group or an individual...has nothing to do with skin color.
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        • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
          I say that it NEVER did have to do with skin color or where one came from.

          In the the beginning of slavery it was that they were uneducated and treating them as subhuman was really a cover to keep them DOWN and unable to rise up. Wouldnt have mattered if they were green, or from someplace other than africa.

          Then the reason for keeping the black slaves down was just economic. It was cheaper labor, and to keep it that way one needed to keep them uneducated and feeling like THEY were subhuman.

          I guess I am saying it was always economics that drove things. Once the blacks got more educated and stuck up for themselves, the labor cost advantage started to disappear.

          But Obama crossed the line and made them feel like they were not only equal, but better than white people- and starting up reverse racism.

          Now, there is a backlash against the entitled blacks (which they deserve for being entitled)
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          • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 months, 3 weeks ago
            I posted a similar story about Fredrick Douglas. It was about his "owner" not wanting his wife teaching Douglas how to read because it made his "people" begin to think for themselves.
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            • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
              It may be enticing to keep a class of people "down" so they cost less to employ, BUT it is very short sighted. If you are going to have an employee, better to have a really smart and educated one so you can get the best outcome from hiring them in the first place.
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              • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 months, 3 weeks ago
                Remember in this case Douglas was not an employee. He was purchased property. At least that was the mind set back then.
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                • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
                  True enough. But employees today are purchased in a way also, but more for their brains now than before. I wonder as industrialization and automation became more prevalent if slavery would have died out anyway. Keeping people down doesn’t engender creativity
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          • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
            Agreed. Remember that president w wilson re-instituted segregation in government, backed the KKK and Margaret Sanger.
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            • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
              Apart from our glorious constitution, the actual performance of our government has been filled with a lot of actions not consistent with the verbiage of that constitution.

              Freedom of religion, except for the mormons who wanted polygamy. Upholding the rights of all, except for the Native Indians. Very slow removal of slavery, because a lot of the government people owned slaves and wanted cheap labor. The list goes on and on.
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              • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
                The forefathers tried sanctions on the south, 3/5ths law, (something we should use on the cities)...it didn't work as we know.
                The indian issue was different. All the northern indians that the forefathers knew wanted and agreed to be part of the American Experiment...all that went south with the westward push of our new civilization and the actions of jackson...the father of the demoncrapic party...hmm...go figure, they were racist from the start!
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                • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
                  As I understand it, the 3/5ths law was a compromise. Before that it was a 0/5th law, so blacks didnt count at all. Full slavery elimination wold have required 5/5, so they compromised on 3/5.

                  That push westward was pretty much of an evil land grab on the part of the USA. And the civil way was an attempt to PREVENT the south from just doing a BREXIT thing.
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                  • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
                    Not the USA...but some creatures within the USA. Lets not blame the entire country, the entire population for the actions of a few that got that ball rolling.
                    No one in the colonies knew of the pagan creatures west of them, had our forefathers been around, they likely could of convinced many an indian to join us in the American Experiment.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 6 months, 3 weeks ago
      This preaching saying blacks can't be racist has been going on for decades. It was part of the beginning of the "New Jim Crow" that began in the '70s. The name Leonard Jeffries of City College in NYC comes to mind as the originator - or at least was one of the earliest promulgators of the ideology.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 6 months, 3 weeks ago
    Obama did mroe to destroy black families and harm the race than any other POTUS. This is just another pseudo religion which teaches hate, much as radical Muslim. They were there looking for a confrontation, and one wonders who choreographed it. Nothing happens in DC by accident. The boys seemed interested, but at times confused by the the Indian's endless drumming. When the blacks started their vulgar rants, somehow it did not seem by accident.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 months, 2 weeks ago
    Well, I tried to look at the video on this computer, but I can't say that it really showed much of what happened. I'm not saying it showed a false version, it just didn't show much, period. From what accounts I have heard on the radio, I believe that Sannman behaved in an exemplary fashion. I was looking also at the part about Phillips, but I had to click off, due to lack of time; I need to spend time on this machine looking for a job.
    I have read some before about "black Israelites" in the paper. There was a group,some years ago, in Richmond, which had a sort of black synagogue in the eastern part of Richmond, where I lived. There was an advertisement, with a picture of a black man with a ball and chain on his leg, with "USA" written on it. (Later, that part, or maybe only the initials "USA" was taken off. In the recruiting poster it said (this is a memory quote) "Yahweh loves you, and we do too!" (I doubt that that message was intended to include any white people). But I don't think that that "synagogue" lasted long. I read a remark in the paper (I think it was in a letter to the editor) that the "white Europeans" in Israel were not the true Israelites. And I thought that anyway, the "white European" Jews were the ones who had paid the price. (Though maybe the ones born in Israel now haven't personally been in Europe)
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  • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
    Religion and other dogma based -isms are really a pain in the ass. More evil has been done in the name of these irrational systems over time than anything else.
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    • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
      Religion is only an organization of some teaching and usually maned by bicameral brained individuals that either just wanted a job or craved the power to keep the massed down...that is where the problem squarely lays.

      Not all teachings are wrong or bad but the group we are discussing is perverted on both accounts.
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      • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
        I agree with your comment about not all teachings are wrong or bad. I actually like the teachings of mormonism relative to family life and financial dealings. Its very intolerant on some things like homosexuality and the insane desire to have multiple children when it makes no sense.

        As to the entitled black "religion", I see almost NO goodness in that.

        As to Islam, I would say that their financial teachings arent bad, but the rest of it sucks. They are the most intolerant religion and want to kill infidels (including me).

        Jewish religion isnt bad on financial dealings and family, but I dont understand why they seem to be leftist leaning.

        I think a good idea is to pirate the best of all the religions and formulate the best of the best IF you have to adhere to something....
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        • Posted by chad 6 months, 3 weeks ago
          I like Thomas Jefferson's take on the bible, he said that there was about 20 minutes worth of good reading in it, the rest was trash. All religions seem to identify with some basic good principles; i.e.; be honest, treat others kindly, be charitable. Then they fall into a litany of hate and unsupportable beliefs; i.e.; God loves us best and hates everyone else, it's ok to betray the previous good deeds with violence and dishonesty if they are not of 'our' group, you have to do some inane ritual to prove that you are part of the special group and not someone who doesn't belong. I wouldn't take part of any religion although I have been mistaken as being such because I live by good moral values that do not inflict harm on others. Sounds like I might be an Objectivist.
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          • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
            I was raised in the catholic religion, which is a great religion in that its easy to throw it out of your life as its quite irrational.

            Their "god" is good, yet allows very bad things to happen to people who would be considered "good" by the religion. It grants good things to very bad people. Strike 1

            The provision of "heaven" as the reward for obedience to the faith is very hollow. Where it is, how come no one ever comes back to talk about it, how come no one can experience a trial period just to verify its really there, etc.

            The provision of "hell" as eternal punishment for being "bad" in this life. Where is it, whats really there except fire and brimstone, the fact no one has ever been there and then came back to report on its existence.

            In all, catholic religion is so irrational that its easy to toss it out the window with no regrets, which is what I did.
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            • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
              It's funny, that is what the catholic organization teaches but that is not what the teachings teach.
              It all went south from the actual teachings and history when they adopted Latin. Latin does not easily nor accurately translate from Hebrew nor Greek...therefore the original languages were confounded and the truth was hidden from the people...sounds like the fall of Babylon all over again.
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              • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
                I cant say that I am well versed in anything other then what was pounded into me during the weekly indoctrination sessions at the church when I was a kid. I am thankful that they failed to get me with the guilt trip of the crucifixion so that I would have trouble throwing it all off.
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                • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
                  Here is the skinny on that. As you may have heard about my work; Mankind was Not always aware of his own awareness...we weren't the most virtuous creatures on earth, save for those that may have tried to behaved for fear of something really big that we could not see. (interesting, 60% of the world still is not aware of their own behavior...who would of guessed! (sarcasm)
                  Christ was trying to wake our shinny butts up! and teach us to integrate, to listen to our conscience to gain a mind and not get in trouble anymore but if our ascension into the conscious world, the moral, ethical world and care for our selves and others beyond our innate ability for mutuality "was to be so damn easy" there would have been no reason for the concept of "forgiveness" and it played out in a dramatic way...it was his choice to demonstrate that forgiveness in that manner.
                  Kind of a clean slate inwhich to start behaving in a conscious human manner instead of a pagan barbarian humanoid manner.
                  It's not exactly a news flash to find that many of the creatures we have a problem with just didn't get it but to the conscious, it seems one gets it automatically.

                  I get the experience of being in a pagan mass and told by some weird guy in a white dress..."if you don't come to church...your gonna go to hell!"
                  HEY! Wait!!!...I didn't know that, no one told me till now! ...but at that very moment, old ugly young carl said to himself...BULLCRAP! I don't believe you any more!
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            • Posted by chad 6 months, 3 weeks ago
              I was always thought it amusing that religion sold something that it cannot prove exists (heaven) and the only way to find out is to take a journey no returns from and in case your considering not making your payments you are threatened with repossession of your soul (hell) another thing no one can verify has ever happened.
              My biggest problem with religion was its hypocritical conflict with the morality it claims it is the only source for. Lysander Spooner once wrote that if God really did write the bible wouldn't it be written in a way that it would be patently obvious? You wouldn't have to believe it to make it work it would work on its own. The greatest leaders in the bible were truly horrible people with no value for human life or respect for others especially if they were not of their group. Once I realized this hypocrisy could not be reconciled (I thought Thomas Paine did a masterful job of destroying it in the first few pages of 'The Age of Reason') I was done.
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              • Posted by Lucky 6 months, 3 weeks ago
                Response to Chad:
                I do not have that kind of problem with religion. I suppose believers have many problems. Once you are free of that the Bible becomes of interest as (poor) history, and as expression of thinking of those times.

                The Old T is full of arguments and complaints from the characters to God, these are responded to sometimes with logic but more often with a reminder of who is in charge. The reader can get the idea that there is power that must be recognized, quite different from worship.

                Thus, I throw in this idea- the Old T is not propounding religion (belief, faith). It invites questions about the human condition, and about power which can be interpreted as the laws of nature which are to studied and used (and obeyed) in order for humans to achieve their goals.
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              • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
                Well written and thought out analysis of religion ! It’s so patently stupid that it Must satisfy some very deep and desperate need in people to be accepted so widely
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              • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
                I think you are referring to the old testament...yes, pagan bicameral humans were truly horrible, guided only by an illusionary voice they called god...Julian Jaynes calls that: schizophrenia.
                Inbetween the old and the new, mankind lost the voice, imagine, no voice at all, then a cursory awareness of self which eventually, (for some) the voice of self and conscience, yet, raw and untrained and a 1000 years to work out but still today...60% have failed having never known their mind...Hint: most have ended up in governments of the world... the rest are their pagan flock of useless idiots.
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          • Posted by  $  6 months, 3 weeks ago
            Ah...but the OT, T. and NT hold information of not just history but also the cycles of the planet, the sun and the Galaxy...not to mention the foundations of existence itself more so that all the others.
            Although, the Mayans gave us a Lot of information as well. We are not even close to knowing what they knew.
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        • Posted by  $  blarman 6 months, 3 weeks ago
          "I think a good idea is to pirate the best of all the religions and formulate the best of the best..."

          So which things would you keep and why?
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          • Posted by term2 6 months, 3 weeks ago
            I would pirate the ideas about family from the mormons and islam and jewish faiths- because they are very practically based.

            I would pirate the ideas about financial affairs from the same groups also because they are very practically based.

            That said, I disagree as to why they believe those things. Religion makes it seem that the basis for their beliefs rest with some sort of mythical being, or in the case of mormonism a prophet and some sort of remote planet.

            I think that the nature of human beings is the source of the things that I hold as correct. Thats what drew me to Ayn Rand and her way of thinking. I wouldnt say I am a member of the objectivist cult, however, and I analyze each of the objectivist ideas and evaluate them myself before I conclude they are correct.
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  • Posted by  $  25n56il4 6 months, 3 weeks ago
    Just what you thought they were! Idiots! If their reasoning is correct, how do they account for the Askenasi? How'd they get here?
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