A violation of the first amendment?

Posted by LennoxStudios 6 years, 8 months ago to Government
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I've seen a lot in recent times about "hate speech" and people being offended. As such posts on different social media platforms are being deleted and accounts banned. Is this not a violation of the freedom of speech? Is it not unconstitutional?


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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry to hear about your father and the fact you had to witness it, for sure, because being on the same planet as you and he, I've experienced the same punch in the face. I've been attacked and beaten more than once for the apparent "sin" of being a white male. I've also been told to leave a restaurant because white folks weren't allowed in there after a certain time of day. Yes, this same crap happens to white people all the time. I have NEVER perpetrated or initiated such an act on any other human being in my entire life. I also do not harbor hatred toward the race of the thugs that harmed me. I have way too many Seneca, Mohawk, and African friends to let a handful of idiots change my thinking.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Truth isn't whatever happens to be in the minds of many either. Truth is correspondence with facts, not a disparate collection of beliefs among many. The "many'' he seems to be talking about are those attributing the source of the ideas for the Constitution; those at the constitutional convention formulated the guidelines for future actions by a new government, not "truths", i.e., true statements about something existing. No Indians were at the constitutional convention. The intellectual influence and basic premises as the Enlightenment, not Indian tribalism, as the source of a government based on the rights of the individual, is well known. Stating that is not from a "chip on a shoulder" and "attitude", contrary to Dobrien's angry personal speculation and accusation. That was the angry personal attack that does not belong here.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indian tribes didn't think of a constitutional republic founded to protect the rights of the individual. Straining to find some "resemblance" between the Constitution and some aspect of ancient tribal government does not make the Indians the source for the Constitution and our form of government. The "so what" is correct; it doesn't matter.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We are talking about history from hundreds to thousands of years ago, not a random personal assault against your father.
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  • Posted by GaltsGulch 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While worded sloppily, I'm absolutely certain that Dobrien did not mean to suggest that "truth = the minds of many."

    What Dobrien meant to convey was, "The truth is that many helped to author the constitution."
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For what it’s worth , so what if some of the experiences with Indian culture May have affected the founding fathers.

    If I am attracted by the Mormon religion’s concerns with family or preparedness, it doesn’t mean I blindly believe in the rest of their dogma.

    Most cultures incorporate some rational thinking in varying percentages. Doesn’t mean just because a different culture thought of it that we need to discount it
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What planet are you from? I didn't find it 'Romantic' to see my father struck in the face by a Redneck idiot who called him a 'Breed', and my father mopping up Harrisburg Boulevard in Houston with the guy. People who saw what happened, did cheer for my father but it ruined my young day. And has the U. S. Government honored one Treaty they ever signed with the Indians? My grandmother wasn't Cherokee! She was Comanche! We did get our college educations because of her but the State of Texas stole her land!
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think part of the appeal of trump is his denial of political correctness. He says what he thinks and encourages us to do the same. Anonymous voting allows us to express our views in a PC world

    It bothers me somewhat that the government actually knows who we are and where we live when we vote. Can’t they then single out all people for “special treatment” based on voting? They have the information after all
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The distortion of Indian history and romanticizing of the primitive became prominent following the American Indian Movement embraced by the New Left in the late 1960s and 70s. It subsequently became entrenched as part of the leftist takeover of the universities. You would think that those knowledgeable in Ayn Rand's ideas would be able to see through it, let alone not erupt into the kind of angry emotional outbursts we've seen here.

    Ayn Rand's "Global Balkanization" on the 'ethnicity' movement, and a good essay by Peter Schwartz, "Multicultural Nihilism", are both in the expanded edition of Ayn Rand's The Return of the Primitive: The Anti-Industrial Revolution. https://www.amazon.com/Return-Primiti...

    Two books worth reading specifically on Indian history are

    1. Tom Bowden's The Enemies of Christopher Columbus 2003, which provides an exceptional philosophic overview of pre-colonial and colonial Indian history https://estore.aynrand.org/p/465/enem...
    https://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Christ...

    2. James A. Clifton, ed, The Invented Indian: Cultural Fictions and Government Politics 1990, which is a collection of articles by professionals in Indian affairs debunking the academic trends and government policies. https://www.amazon.com/Invented-India...
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A snide "simply stating facts" is not an excuse for the personal attacks. Take it somewhere else. Your off-topic personal attacks do not contribute to discussion or the forum.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 7 months ago
    It absolutely is a violation of the 2nd amendment.
    If a person is grounded in the truth, no form of speech can turn him/her into a snowflake. It is merely an excuse for censorship.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please take your personal feuding somewhere else. It has no place here. Your personal speculations and insults are not part of the discussion and are obviously personal attacks.
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    Posted by exceller 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is NOT a personal attack.

    It is an opinion on your post which is what the guidelines postulate: reply to the contents of the writer.

    That is exactly what it was.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ewv...'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!"
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Personal attacks do not belong here. Please review the guidelines for posting here.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can't defend yourself against gossip (words) and you are a fool if you try. I think these 'haters' like to hear the sound of their own voices. They have convinced themselves they know what is 'right'!
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  • Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you are zeroing in on it. Trump is not threatened by Acosta, his intent is to expose the frauds these hacks are. Fake news. Acosta was lecturing Trump on the invasion. As these paid mercenaries assault our border the past will prove the future. I think Acosta and his bias may be helpful to Trump in our battle with the propaganda arm of the left.
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    Posted by exceller 6 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ewv, your tirades are getting annoying and honestly, boring.

    You keep grandstanding here by posting dissertations that are useless collections of words that make sense only to you.

    You seem to be enjoying yourself in your haughty superiority against the unwashed.

    Remember, "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication".

    I have no doubt that your extensive erudition extends to identifying the author of these words.
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