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Rare Voting System Flips House Seat!

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago to News
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The ranked-choice system, approved in 2016, lets voters rank all candidates from first to last on the ballot. If no one gets a majority, then last-place candidates are eliminated and their second-place votes are reallocated.

In this case, Poliquin and Golden both collected 46 percent of first-place votes, with Poliquin maintaining a slim edge of about 2,000 votes. But additional tabulations were triggered because no one collected a majority.

On Thursday, Golden overtook Poliquin after state election officials eliminated two independent candidates who trailed, collectively gathering about 8 percent of first-place votes. A computer algorithm reallocated the second-place votes, giving Golden a lead of nearly 3,000 votes.

How convoluted is that!


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  • Posted by mcsandberg 7 years ago
    Welcome to the real world. Ranked Choice voting has now produced a perverse result. The least popular candidate has been "elected".

    Every voting system will do this, as the founders knew https://cic.nyu.edu/sites/default/fil... . That's why the picked the simplest system, "First Past The Pole".
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 7 years ago
    Seems like a process designed to pick back up the votes lost to third party candidates that usually tend to bleed away Democrat votes. Election rigging if I ever saw it. Since it helps Democrats, it will survive court challenge.....unless we can show that it hurt a minority or illegal voter......Oh come on...I forgot...no one really cares about them minorities and illegals....the only thing important is helping Democrats take beck their rightful power.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years ago
    I am not opposed to this unusual form of voting. The candidates and constituents knew the rules before the election.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years ago
    I prefer the run-off system to this. I don't consider a preference the same as a vote.
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  • Posted by mshupe 7 years ago
    Thanks, no I haven't, my understanding is limited, at first glance it seems it would help undermine the current two party monopoly. And maybe Oakland is 99% progressive left anyway.
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  • Posted by Solver 7 years ago
    In my opinion any voting system that does not count an individual’s vote for, “none of the above” has a major flaw.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago
    Probably would not be considered if they knew how to fairly count the votes. If the ballot is all screwed up throw it out. If the machine doesn’t read the dot it is because it was not filled in , that equals no vote. Strict deadlines period .
    Voter iD
    No question about it , it is as racist as the pillsbury dough boy
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  • Posted by $ 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I see your point but now we are dependent upon the computer and can you imagine how complex a hand recount would be if the computer goes down or gets it wrong?
    Hell, they can't even handle a simple stupid system.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You get to choose who the 1st choice, 2nd choice, 3rd choice, etc. is on your ballot. That is how they are allocated, by the individual voters choice.
    Here is an image of the Maine ballot showing that you choose the ranking.
    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Kg8VJ...
    (I hope that image works;^)

    It does depend on the computer being programmed correctly to only re-allocate votes of those voters whose first choice is not one who got a lot of votes. That is not very difficult to program correctly.

    (It’s worth noting that voters don’t have to rank every single choice on the ballot — they could still just choose one candidate and submit their ballot.)
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  • Posted by $ 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Like all things political it will be misused. I think the people will do the opposite and only vote R/D in the future.
    Besides, who says the alternative candidates approved whom their votes went to, we might see the opposite here too. alternative candidates joining the mainstream parties.
    I'd be pissed as a libertarian if my votes went to a demoncrap because they were the second choice of the voters.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years ago
    Convoluted? Sounds almost rational to me as long as the process is transparent and not misused.
    This system would allow libertarian voters to have votes reallocated to conservative candidates instead of being "wasted." (This presumes that libertarians are more conservative than socialist.)
    OTOH, it would also allow "Bernie" socialist votes to be reallocated to socialist Democrat candidates.
    The article says the "ranked choice system was approved in 2016." I wonder who "approved" it: state legislators or voters?

    But the result could instead be that more people vote their real first choice instead of choosing the lesser of 2 evils (Dem/GOP) and the third party candidates actually have a chance to get the votes they deserve.
    Would you vote for an objectivist candidate as first choice and GOP as second choice if you knew it would eventually go to the GOP candidate in a close race?
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