Rare Voting System Flips House Seat!
The ranked-choice system, approved in 2016, lets voters rank all candidates from first to last on the ballot. If no one gets a majority, then last-place candidates are eliminated and their second-place votes are reallocated.
In this case, Poliquin and Golden both collected 46 percent of first-place votes, with Poliquin maintaining a slim edge of about 2,000 votes. But additional tabulations were triggered because no one collected a majority.
On Thursday, Golden overtook Poliquin after state election officials eliminated two independent candidates who trailed, collectively gathering about 8 percent of first-place votes. A computer algorithm reallocated the second-place votes, giving Golden a lead of nearly 3,000 votes.
How convoluted is that!
In this case, Poliquin and Golden both collected 46 percent of first-place votes, with Poliquin maintaining a slim edge of about 2,000 votes. But additional tabulations were triggered because no one collected a majority.
On Thursday, Golden overtook Poliquin after state election officials eliminated two independent candidates who trailed, collectively gathering about 8 percent of first-place votes. A computer algorithm reallocated the second-place votes, giving Golden a lead of nearly 3,000 votes.
How convoluted is that!
Voter iD
No question about it , it is as racist as the pillsbury dough boy
It’s very difficult to counter the effects of emotional manipulation with rational arguments. We have to just reject emotion and stick to rational argument but the repubs don’t know how to do that
They spent their time refuting the emotional leftist arguments, while all the time accepting the emotional basis of the discussion. The repubs have lost before they started
This system would allow libertarian voters to have votes reallocated to conservative candidates instead of being "wasted." (This presumes that libertarians are more conservative than socialist.)
OTOH, it would also allow "Bernie" socialist votes to be reallocated to socialist Democrat candidates.
The article says the "ranked choice system was approved in 2016." I wonder who "approved" it: state legislators or voters?
But the result could instead be that more people vote their real first choice instead of choosing the lesser of 2 evils (Dem/GOP) and the third party candidates actually have a chance to get the votes they deserve.
Would you vote for an objectivist candidate as first choice and GOP as second choice if you knew it would eventually go to the GOP candidate in a close race?
Besides, who says the alternative candidates approved whom their votes went to, we might see the opposite here too. alternative candidates joining the mainstream parties.
I'd be pissed as a libertarian if my votes went to a demoncrap because they were the second choice of the voters.
Here is an image of the Maine ballot showing that you choose the ranking.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Kg8VJ...
(I hope that image works;^)
It does depend on the computer being programmed correctly to only re-allocate votes of those voters whose first choice is not one who got a lot of votes. That is not very difficult to program correctly.
(It’s worth noting that voters don’t have to rank every single choice on the ballot — they could still just choose one candidate and submit their ballot.)
Hell, they can't even handle a simple stupid system.
Consider a functional alternative: a majority requirement but if nobody gets a majority you merge “libertarian” candidate votes into Republican candidate, and Green to Democrat. People would rightly and loudly howl about this. Yet it is what they are doing when they “reallocate” votes. There is no way to definitely just remove a candidate and shift votes upward. While it may sound far fetched the reality is that people can and do choose a different rank order when you remove a higher ranked candidate. Hell, we do it when lower ranked choices are removed.
If you really wanted to avoid a runoff under the describe system the less-bad option is to assign points to all ranks and tally points rather than votes. Still worse than a simple runoff.
Oh and NOTA should always be an option. If NOTA wins, hold a new election and those on the ballot that NOTA won on are ineligible.
The progressives want various radical candidates so badly that they have traditionally cast their votes that way; now they want an automatic do-over to keep coming back for the most progressive candidate they can get after they lose. These are the same collectivist activists who become hysterical over voter id laws ensuring legitimate voting, which they call "voter suppression" (of the dishonest mob). The rights of the individual are not supposed to be up for grabs in any election, let alone made even more vulnerable to rigged elections schemes on behalf of collectivists.
The Maine 'ranked choice voting' was declared unconstitutional by the state supreme court for in-state elections because the constitution specifies the winner as the plurality of votes. But the court allowed the voting of Federal representatives to stand as 'ranked choice', as if the constitution was intended to make a distinction and to allow a voting maneuver that no one had ever heard of at the time the constitution was written.
The claim by the left that this 'system' of rubber choice voting is somehow superior because it requires a majority rather than a plurality for three or more candidates is propaganda by democrat socialists appealing to their premise of mob rule. Over half the people typically don't vote at all, and majority votes are still not a majority of the citizens. Nor does "ranked choice" allow voters to know what the alternatives are that they choosing between in 2nd choices. Nor is the mob "majority" the proper standard at all. Again, our rights are not supposed to be for grabs by some mob in every election, and this rubber choice voting scheme was cynically implemented for that purpose.
The irony (and the proof of intended corruption) in the theft of Polequin's win in Maine is that his Democrat opponent still did not receive a majority of the votes cast even under the new gimmick. The system takes into account that many do not select 2nd or 3rd choices by eliminating them from the altered counting in order to ensure an artificial 'majority'. http://www.themainewire.com/2018/11/j...
Polequin has sued in Federal court. The judge refused to issue an injunction against proceeding with the altered counting, but the case is still active.
Every voting system will do this, as the founders knew https://cic.nyu.edu/sites/default/fil... . That's why the picked the simplest system, "First Past The Pole".
But others raise the complexity ceiling higher and higher. Not only do we have more choices but each of us is expected to do more and more.
As an example take a look at the original, single and simple tax form before computers. Now, look at the nightmare that each of us is expected to compute for our rulers.
It is human nature to want more and to compete. It is human nature to want to be free to choose. It is not human nature to want less and all be equal. It is not human nature to want to be ruled.
Forcing individuals to make omelets of equity, multiculturalism and diversity will require breaking untold numbers of eggs, until human nature itself can be somehow scrambled. That is unless we can live with others, understanding human nature, and the totalitarian.
:)
But this voting scheme is not from computers; in principle it could be imposed with any method of counting, including flying chads. It requires counting more than once, with different votes selected for the 2nd and subsequent passes. In Maine, small rural downs did count the votes manually.
We are so enamored of 'the two party system' that it is hard for a lot of people to even consider that it stinks! Why do I have to choose between a dummycrat and a republicon?
Oh, I must have been writing in my sleep...sorry, I am awake now...it was just a dream.
There are no run-off elections in Maine because the state constitution requires a plurality to win. The rubber choice "preferences" are still prohibited for in-state elections; that they were permitted for Federal elections is an aberration even within Maine. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...