If I still drank I'd drink to that.

There are no facile insights into so complex a history. Turkey lives on the memory of its greatness as the Ottoman empire. There is no reason for any country to exercise "leadership", which means control over others. Individualism applies equally to cultures and their collection of individuals. Individualism does not mean conquest of others, either as one individual person or their conglomeration as an independent nation state. Any other ethic is predation. It's time to eliminate that from human affairs.

Hi puzzlelady,
Please share any insight you have about Turkey’s
Political leadership.

Thank you.

Right on, Robert. Fair, balanced, accurate, dispassionate analysis, as always. Your articles are among the few published anywhere that are worth reading. Thank you.

Turkey -- just another Middle Eastern country being readied for overthrow.

Its not our business, and we should stay out of it. Its another country, and from what I understand the person killed was not even a citizen of the USA.

I think we should mind our own business. It happened in Turkey, and apparently was perpetrated by saudi people. Who knows what that journalist did or didnt do. We should just say that political killing is not what we stand for, but theirs is a diffferent culture.

I would like to have seen the Prez play the Turks and Saudis played against each other, the Prince against the Caliph. Erdogan and MbS have grandeurs of empire building. Over hundred years ago they were at each other throats. Trump really needs a historian on his staff. Past history would help in foreign diplomacy.

Reminds me of the som of Saddam. Entitled, ruthless, power hungry.

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a member of the Saudi royal family Interviewed today by Maria Bartiromo.
This may and to your disquisition.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...

In my opinion , This event was a deep state set up.
The intent was to start a war between Turkey and the Saudi’s.
If MBS wanted this guy dead .why do it in your embassy?
It makes no sense.

Shucks! That way, me dino can't think I'm so special and much more deserving than other people.

That's right...Vote!...as many times as you can...no no...don't do that, you're not a demoncrap...just vote once.

A problem that may get better or worse, depending on the midterms.

We've made the grade, crossed our 'T's and beat the Environ[mental]ist but it has yet to flow, therefore reach the refineries...which is another problem all together...

Drill, baby, drill!
Ya know, like Sarah Palin said a long time ago in what now seems to be a galaxy far, far away.

Many errors, especially on Iran, a major source of world-wide terror. Iranian money and manpower support brutal regimes in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and they have major influence in Iraq. Their influence is a liitle less in (so-called) Palestine which gets excessive UN and EU money. There is a brutal war going on in Yemen, Iran was the instigator and keeps it going.

Who is the worst? tough competition, note Saudi terror supporting money was from random ruling class sources whereas from Iran it is government. Recent actions by MbS have been to rein-in those random elements. Some success may have caused him to overplay, but this journalist Khashoggi has unsavory connections which are not widely reported.
Who is worse? Well I still call it as Saudi, but, Saudi is improving, Iran is getting worse.

It is not just Israel that Iran threatens, with words and potential, but the US. Iran was well on the way to having nuclear weapons, thanks to the Blank and Merckel. This should be a situation to focus the mind. Trump has at least caused delay.

That's probably the best case outcome.

Spot on Robert...however, between the leftest enclave and our dependence on oil, an opposing force toward Iran and support for Israel, don't you think Trump has been placed over a Barrel?...pun intended.

I wonder, if perhaps, once the US is able to ramp up our own production of oil into independence from Saudi interest and our DC swamp gets modestly drained, we might slip away during the night of long knives.

Next for Mohammad bin Salman: Time's Man of the Year and a Nobel Peace Prize for not invading his neighbors until after the award ceremony.