Either-Or, Capitalism or Social Justice

Posted by  $  mshupe 4 months ago to Culture
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If we maintain a system in which everyone is free to choose their occupation, there can be no control over whether or not the results will correspond to the wishes of the social justice warriors. Social justice can only be realized in a centrally controlled system that limits free choices and free action of individuals. Justice can only refer to the way free competition is carried on, not to its results.
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  • Posted by brucejc04 4 months ago
    Ok, here is what Social Justice really is . . .

    Social Justice
    Frederick A. Hayek, Law, Legislation, and Liberty (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1976, p.97)
    “Social justice” is not, as most people probably feel, an innocent expression of good will towards the less fortunate, but . . . it has become s dishonest insinuation that one ought to agree to a demand of some special interest which can give no real reason for it. If political discussion is to become honest it is necessary that people should recognize that the term is intellectually disreputable, the mark of demagogy or cheap journalism which responsible thinkers ought to be ashamed to use because, once its vacuity is recognized, its use is dishonest.
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    • Posted by ewv 4 months ago
      "Social justice" is an attempt to invalidate the concept of justice and replace it with collectivism. Real justice is "social" in that it pertains to other people. "Social justice" in a legitimate sense is a redundancy; the anti-concept promoted today is a contradiction.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 4 months ago
    Mother Nature is the most unfair of all. Only the biggest, the best, the strngest prosper under her Aegis. Freedom is not fair. The moment something must be manipulated in order to be "fair" it becomes unnatural. But that is the way of mankind, which is normal for the species. If you want fairness, become a grove of deciduous trees..
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    • Posted by  $  4 months ago
      Absolutely, our capacity for reason allows for long-term thinking, and nature rewards or punishes depending whether or not we deal with it rationally. I thi k the fairness crowd wants to reward short-term thinking and the avoidance of reality.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 4 months ago
        I think that most of left philosophy is the recreation of reality in order to suit the beliefs that would be the most advanced for them. Unfortunately for them, reality cannot be altered by whim, or the desire for the universe to become part of their fantasy. That is why socialism, or any other ism other than capitalism doesn't work. Capitalism is the only economic system that corresponds to reality, which means it's the only one that works in a free society.
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  • Posted by  $  Solver 4 months ago
    “On the one hand, all truth is relative; on the other hand, postmodernism tells it like it really is.
    On the one hand, all cultures are equally deserving of respect; on the other, Western culture is uniquely destructive and bad.
    Values are subjective--but sexism and racism are really evil.
    Technology is bad and destructive--and it is unfair that some people have more technology than others.
    Tolerance is good and dominance is bad--but when postmodernists come to power, political correctness follows.”
    -Stephen Hicks
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 4 months ago
    In a broader context, with a full understanding that “society” is just a collection of individuals with individual rights, Capitalism = Social Justice.

    But, not in the way SJW’s have, as another comment already pointed out, “rebranded” it to mean its opposite. As they earlier did with the term “liberal”.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 4 months ago
    This is the tightrope some of the Scandinavian countries find themselves in, as they try to control, but need the income that only capitalism will give them.
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  • Posted by  $  blarman 4 months ago
    Justice is the principle of reality rewarding you for nothing more and nothing less than precisely what you do. If you do nothing, you receive nothing.

    "Social Justice" is all about receiving something because you think you are entitled to it regardless of your actions.
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    • Posted by ewv 4 months ago
      Justice means judging an individual for what he is and treating him accordingly, not just "rewarding" for what he does in a particular action. "Social justice" is egalitarianism denying justice, not just anyone believing he is entitled to something.
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  • Posted by chad 4 months ago
    Justice is usually accepted as a method to ensure an honest, rational outcome in protection or restoring damaged individuals. The dictionary now defines justice as the administration of law or the determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity. In other words if the state has declared that an individual does not have the right to control or own his property then justice would be the removal and redistribution of the property according to the states decree. The acceptable assignment of property according to the whims of the collective is social justice. Free market capitalism allows the individual to make the decision of what is just and it happens automatically (without direction from the state) and it is quickly determined by the individual if he wants to participate in the action again. Social justice is sold to the envious majority who will claim the right to anything is has not produced and the right to use violence to get it.
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    • Posted by ewv 4 months ago
      Justice means judging an individual for what he is and treating him accordingly, not a "method" for ensuring "outcomes", and is not restricted to only "damaged" individuals. Justice requires recognizing an individual with positive character, accomplishments, and actions, which is at least as important as dealing with those who violate rights or are otherwise immoral. Nor is "damage", such as economic loss, necessarily a violation of rights requiring restoration or protection against.
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