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Economics Everywhere, Politics Nowhere

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago to History
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Thought everyone would enjoy some background history on Switzerland. It was once the ultimate in Capitalism and even today it is still a far cry from what the USA and the rest of the western world has turned into.

Ayn Rand would have done very well there but I am glad she came here instead.


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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here is a better plan and it's already in the works. http://cafr1.com/
    Read the 1st and 3rd article...the third is crazy the money the government is earning...they Own the corporations then they tell you, the corps are the problem when all along, it is government greed holding cards.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think the collapse and punishment, (I like that, sounds like a book title) needs to happen quick, over night so to speak, shock and awe, in order to awaken those that will and demolish those that won't.
    The longer it takes to pull that off, the riskier it gets...we have a nation of busy bodies now.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to trying, I just don't see a clear reasonable, doable and successful path to achieve the end goal.

    That said, you have some good ideas.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
    If the truth is the goal and honesty its vehicle, then the most complex of philosophical problems can be reduced to a simplicity that even a five year old can understand. Simply stick to the basic premises and you'll find that paring away the extraneous is easier than first thought. The problem with all philosophies, be they economic or social is that they must be scrupulously obeyed once their parameters are made clear -- and that's where humanity invariably screws up.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    WELL, there is a way I thnk. First, start a company and sell it to some james taggart type who will then destroy it, so you dont need to work anymore.

    Take your funds and secure them away from the hands of the government, maybe in gold and silver.

    Small groups of no more than about 50 of like minded gulchers could band together and trade amongst themselves or with other bands of gulchers. Too small to attract much interest, but there could be many of those groups.

    As far as interacting with collectivists, best to just hide in plain sight. Keep to yourself and dont present a big enough target for them to come after you.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no place on earth for us, the value creators and producers to go, no resistance large enough or strong enough to make that happen.
    It would be nice, if we could starve the beast, but not without starving ourselves in the process because we still have to work, to eat and to live. And even if we could, it would take years of cooperation and preparation.

    That's the reality of it. Stuck between a Rock and a left place.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    as in AS. The system has to collapse before the entitled will admit that the free ride is over
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    WE are never going to go back. Too many people feel they are "entitled" to the goodies the state has provided (courtesy of the producers), and they wont give them up.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yrump was right when he told the blacks to think about exactly what the dems have given them. They get a ticket to be a slave to get the crumbs from the welfare system, and a ceiling they cant break through to do better for themselves.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The chinese are victims of people fighting the last war as to quality. Today, the parts we buy from them are of quite excellent quality- easily as good if not better than what we make here. They have substantially less expensive labor, and their workers are not nearly as "entitled" as american workers are.

    We will need to have a 10% price increase once the 25% tariffs go into effect on Jan1. I expect a lot of companies are going to do the same.

    Whatever Trump expects the chinese to give in on will do nothing for our company however. We do not sell anything to china (our stuff is WAY too expensive for the chinese to buy), and therefore have no intellectual property issues with them.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Plus they speak backwards compared to English, ie, "to the store I go"...or is that just French "Canadian"!
    Laughing
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, but he mentions where and when they went south. Even so, the underlying structures still exist, it wouldn't take much for them to return to those principles. We, the US, have a Lot farther to go.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You answered your own question in the last paragraph...if they want to do business with us then they will lower or eliminate their tariffs on our goods and we will lower or eliminate theirs. Trump seeks mutual free trade.
    If they do not...oh well, too bad for them. We will make those products or buy somewhere else.

    I'm tired of cheap garbage Chinese stuff anyway. They are only copycats anyway for the most part.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I've always thought we should spell words the way we speak them or speak them the way their spelled...(phonetics), get ride of all the "silent" letters."

    Don't learn French, then, they only pronounce about 1/2 their consonants.. It will drive you bonkers! :)

    On a more serious note, I totally agree!
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Laughing...I did however, research this out. Looked up what the best language was, what language had the most words and the most metaphors, the most universal, (accommodating, Greek, Latin and many other languages)...also...
    English doesn't require any special sounds to speak it either...for instance, many languages use a lot of tong/tonsil flapping or like Spanish, they don't use the tong as much, just a throat sound mostly. Other languages use the same sounds but mean different things depending upon the inflections added.

    However...there are problems with english, to many words are used differently but spelled the same, like Read,- spelled the same for present and past tense. I read those discussions as well.

    It was conclusive across the spectrum and linguist in general though...English won by a landslide.

    I've always thought we should spell words the way we speak them or speak them the way their spelled...(phonetics), get ride of all the "silent" letters.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I hope we do that here. I know Trump is getting a lot of resistance to that from the idiot leftists.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They got a taste of it and rejected it. Anyone that refused to assimilate and speak the language got kicked out...I don't think they are taking any more refugees.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont get how high tariffs are going to force the Chinese to "back down" in their communist plan to build up their industries and take over the world. They are going to fight tooth and nail even harder now. While we in the USA pay the price in terms of inflated prices and money going to our crooked government.
    That said, I do think that we CANNOT just keep printing money and sending it to China so we can buy stuff cheaply. What Trump might be doing is artificially increasing the prices from China to overcome their government controlled cheap yuan, and encourage americans to NOT buy so much from them. THAT part just might work, but its going to take maybe 100% tariffs to make that happen.
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