The Republican legislation McCain blocked was not a repeal of Obamacare, it was a Republican statist 'improvement' that none of them supported when the Democrats passed Obamacare. They all welshed on their promises to repeal Obamacare (not "repeal and replace" with another statist program). But McCain opposed the Republican legislation out of supporting the original Obamacare he had campaigned against.

His "legacy" of "serving his country" is couched as being a "war hero". He was not. A war hero is someone who does something definitive and great to win the war, or at least some part of it if the war is ultimately lost -- something that stands out as significant accomplishment beyond what others do in battle. McCain did nothing of the kind. He was quickly shot down and captured -- that was unfortunate for him and not something to disparage him for, but it doesn't make him a war hero. He undermined his own personal heroism in contending with his torturers by refusing to leave when he had the chance, deliberately choosing to be further tortured by the enemy, which added to his own permanent, disabling personal injuries.

He basked in that pointless, chosen horrible sacrifice ever since as if it were a national and personal virtue. Tolerating and surviving torture would be personal heroism; choosing it is not. It did no one any good. He should have gotten out when he was offered the chance and then used everything he knew about it to help go back and rescue the others. Instead, we are expected to -- and most of the country does -- laud him for the claimed virtue of choosing to suffer and accomplishing nothing through sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice. No one likes the fact that he was tortured by communists and he did not deserve that; but choosing to continue it was senseless, not virtue, and does not make him a war hero.

In 2015 McCain stated: “It is clear that any serious attempt to improve our health care system must begin with a full repeal and replacement of Obamacare, and I will continue fighting on behalf of the people of Arizona to achieve it.”

One would expect that a "political giant" and "great Senator" as the media is bending over backwards to sing his glory, would honor that position when it came up for vote.

It was defeated on his vote in the Senate.

McCain has served this country dishonorably.

That is his legacy.

I do also think that his brain left the building long ago. He really wasn't making sense...

Absolutely! There are times that I have wanted to down vote someone, but I never have....especially if they are not civil and and are disrespectful, which you are not..

Life and living today would benefit by more rather than less decorum and good manners.
Perhaps that is what mminnick is saying.

I remember the time (yes back then!) when Josef Stalin died. I lived in a country that thought of itself as cultured with good manners at least in public. The press deplored a few of the celebrations coming from the US. I shared that view, then, before I knew much about Stalin.

Yes, let there be more civility in public discourse but refraining from making justified criticism is self-censorship and hypocrisy supporting the bad, worse than bad manners.

But they are doing the job they are "hired" to do -- it's what most voters now want.

That he is now gone is not reason to suspend judgment on what he was. It was worse than the personal revenge for which he abused his position; he was a statist who extolled human sacrifice on principle -- not just altruistic sacrifice living for others, but often in addition human sacrifice and suffering as an end in itself. Remember his campaign "debate" with Obama in which the two of them, with mutual enthusiasm, vied for who most supported sacrifice?

Yet that is what he is widely admired for; serving not only to promote evil but used as a cover to excuse all manner of destructive policy and action.

"A man of courage" with "strength and resolve to do what they perceive as right and correct" for fundamentally wrong and evil goals with fundamentally destructive thinking is not admirable with only "disagreement with some positions".

We don't have to -- and should not -- embrace inappropriate mocking his cancer and be 'glad to see him go' in death to recognize that. Such personal lashing out detracts from and obscures rational evaluation.

Fortunately for me dino, I never had to hear any lib propaganda. What came in the mail went straight into File 13.
My major sticking point for staying in the union was that if I ever got wrote up and suspended without pay for usually a month, the union would pay me the same amount to sit at home.
Long story short, I was never suspended without pay. That "insurance policy" caused me to breathe easier, though.
Ain't saying I was never chewed out. There were so many picky, picky ways to get into trouble it would make your head spin. And through the years, a few of my co-workers proved to be "back-stabbers" as a figure of speech..
During a shift briefing, I recall nodding when a lieutenant said "This is a cutthroat business."

As soon as the vote was counted, and the teachers then could opt out of belonging to the teacher's union, I got out so fast, the president of the union's head is still spinning. Lots of us left. Never had to pay the expensive dues again or hear the propaganda.

When my husband (U S Army 20 yrs hip pocket orders 22 yrs) was alive, he couldn't hear the name John McCain without frowning. My beloved spent two tours in Viet Nam as an 'Advisor' and was in Korea during the Conflict.

Like it!

That prison opened during 1982 and that warden arrived around 1983 from a south Alabama prison to mess with a bunch of Birmingham area laid-off steel workers.
And what do messed-with laid-off steel workers do? They bring in the AFL-CIO. That warden got drunk one night, called a union activist officer over to his house, punched the said officer in the guts, got sued and settled by paying one of those undisclosed sums the punched officer said he could not discuss under court order..
Raised by an anti-union father, I reluctantly joined for my own protection. Things did get way better.
Later I felt repulsed when the union sent me their AFL-CIO magazine with a smiling Slick Willie on the cover. Me dino threw it away on sight and did the same to any other union magazine sent in the mail.
I stayed in that union, though, until the end of my my 21-year-career.

Me dino thought up a new one~
Hey, John, now we know what's been wrong with your mind for all these years.

Not the legacy to be proud of.

You are not a PC dino. Thank heavens!

That's like waving a red cape in front of this old dino..
Now I just gotta show off with some really real un-PC.
Hang on! Here we go with my first un-PC imagining~
Hey, John! Wanna hear a lot of groans?
Go knock-knock on heaven's door, John!
Me dino be tempted to to think up more.
No, just stop it, dino. Just stop it.
Go do something else.

You have said what many people think. They are too PC or afraid to admit it.

I respect all opinions. Someone cut my original post to 0, something I would never do to any post on this site. All have a right to give their opinion and have it heard.

I respect your position and I trust you respect mine.

One more sentence to add to what I said above: if we forgive people the evil things they have done because there have been good things they have done as well, to me that logic would apply to all criminals. Surely, everyone has done something good in their lives.

It is difficult for me to look at this as a balancing act between good and bad. If all the bad wipes out every trace of the good, especially at a time when one's role is of extreme consequence to the country, it can't be justified.

Just as you I don't ask you to take my position, though.

Some people we're better off without. I'm suddenly recalling a prison warden who reveled in his power over others and treated his corrections officers like crap. When he died we were all laughing and saying stuff like, "Aw, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy."

I may come off as heartless but I'm not sorry to see that vindictive old cuss go away.

Of course, in The Gulch, you have a right to your opinion on John McCain. But he has put personal revenge ahead of our country. His brain died a long time ago.

All the money in the world can't buy you more than your allotted time.
Now if he'd just resign to fade away quietly with his family instead of being a wrecking ball, turncoat, obstructionist for the establishment and special interests...

McCains wife has a dry cleaning business in Afghanistan funny the same chemicals she imports for the business are the same used to turn poppies to heroin. This letter from an afghan citizen requesting an inquiry to McCains profiteering .

On April 6, 2012 when I met with the U.S. State Department’s Deputy Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Mr. Frank Ruggiero, I asked him who are the real decisions makers regarding the continuation of the war in Afghanistan? He implied that it was not President Obama when I asked if it was the President. It looks like it is the Pentagon, war mongers and war profiteers especially the ones in our government arguing for the continuation of this war, which is highly profitable to them.

I strongly believe it is time that the Senate Ethics Committee investigate whether or not Senator John McCain, Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and other senators, such as Senator Tom Cotton, Senator Lindsey Graham, Representative Dana Rohrabacher and Representative Adam Kinzinger have conflicts of interest and allegedly are personally profiting from the perpetuation of the war in Afghanistan.

It has been alleged in the Afghan media and by some Afghan individuals that some U.S. Senators, who sit on the Senate Armed Services Committee, are profiting from the war and the drug trafficking in Afghanistan such as through the provision of necessary chemicals to convert the raw opium to heroin. Senator John McCain’s wife, Mrs. Cindy Hensley McCain’s businesses allegedly profit from the war in Afghanistan. It appears that Senator McCain tries to keep an arm’s length distance from his wife’s war profits to try to shield himself from conflict of interest problems.However, since Senator McCain is presently serving as the “Chairman” of the Senate Armed Services Committee, the ethics committee should investigate these allegations. In addition, it has been reported by Afghan media, Afghan individuals and other western media that intelligence services such as the CIA and MI6 are involved in the drug trafficking in Afghanistan. The Senate Ethics Committee needs to investigate these allegations involving senators and any alleged connections that may be conflicts of interest

In addition, I Congressional Committee need to investigate the funding of the so-called “ISIL” fighters in Afghanistan. I believe individuals such as U.S. Senator John McCain are obstacles to peace in Afghanistan because of the war profiteering in his family. At a recent U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee’s hearing on February 9, 2017, when General Nicholson was asked why the United States or the Afghan government do not use air power to eliminate the opium fields, General Nicholson quickly stated that the counter narcotics policy is not a defense policy. Chairman McCain did not make any comment. It appeared that it was an issue no one wanted to address especially the war profiteers on the committee. Very quickly the committee moved on to the next issue.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/06...

I agree. There are very few among the con-gress who do the job that they are "hired" to do. That's why I call DC the Dark Center. However, McCain is one of the worst. He was guilty of corruption in the Savings and Loan debacle and the charges were ignored and covered up, similar to the current gang of thieves. They all hang together because otherwise they would certainly hang separately.