House GOP moves to impeach Rosenstein

Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 8 months ago to Government
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So one has to wonder, is Trey doing something stupid to stay under the radar and be seen as a pawn the RINOs casn manipulate or is he really one of them. Statements like "Impeachment is a punishment, it's not a remedy," House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Trey Gowdy said shortly before Meadows introduced the resolution. "If you are looking for documents, then you want compliance, and you want whatever moves you toward compliance." seem to indicate he is trying to protect the Deep States attempts at obfuscation, and RINO Ryans lack of effort is just as expected. One has to wonder at something where the FBI and DOJ has lied and obfuscated for 2 years on producing anything related to Hillary, such as the emails, records, servers etc, that they essentially gave them the finger, constitutes "Republican leaders, however, have said in recent weeks that they are satisfied with the Justice Department's progress. Gowdy said after the meeting that he was pleased with the department's efforts. House Speaker Paul Ryan has also said he is satisfied with progress on the document production.". RINO's indeed. How much money is therein this mess, one has to wonder....
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
    I'm hoping that Jim Jordan becomes the next Speaker. He was one of the ones who called for President Obama to be impeached and he was one of the sponsors of the articles of impeachment against Rosenstein, who has been slow-walking the documents for nearly 18 months regarding the Hillary investigation - all to protect his buddies in the FBI and on the Mueller probe. I sincerely hope they do impeach Rosenstein - even though you know the Democrats won't vote to convict him.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
      Rosenstein should be fired. Too bad Trump just cant DO it without being charged with obstruction of some sort. Rosenstein would never last in private business, and certainly not in the mafia.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
        Are you kidding? He'd be held up in the liberal media or any Soros-funded group just like Andrew Cuomo on CNN!

        Oh, you mean a legitimate business that actually turns a profit and isn't politically motivated. Right. ;)
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
      All of this seems to be a part of the Q Plan, to let the public see who is serious about cleaning house, and who the opposition is. As we see, Ryan, Rosenstein, the Dumbocraps (mostly) are the ones protecting the criminals and elite, and that will all become part of the who shall fall gang. Serial Brain 2 did an excellent discourse on why it all matters and what Q was saying about it.
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  • Posted by mminnick 5 years, 8 months ago
    If Rosenstein was a private citizen and defied the Congress in the same manner, he would have been held in contempt and brought before a federal judge for ajudication. Instead he (and the DOJ) are getting chance after chance to comply with legal subpoenas'.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
      Not necessarily so, since there was a string of them who did the same thing, the FBI, the DOJ, Lois Lerner, Holder etc. All just either took the 5th or ignored them, and all they got was a butt chewing. That is because a lot of the politicians are part of the Cabal on both parties, and up to their necks. As Q says, Ryan is irrelevant, why do you think he resigned?
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
        I am pretty disgusted with the whole thing. This must be one of the things makes civilizations last approximately 250 years before they crumble from the results of the mistakes made.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
    I am not sure I understand this Q stuff. I have observed that the leftist use hidden agendas so much that I find it more efficient to immediately try to uncover the hidden agendas rather than debate what they are saying. One nice thing about Maxine Waters and that woman who won in NYC is that they are pretty much out there about their beliefs. Makes it easier to defend against them than Chuck Schumer. Today politics is all about emotional manipulation and hidden agendas

    For example I might read a news article. As soon as u see a negative thing about trump, I don’t read further because I am 90% sure the purpose of whatever they are saying is just designed to turn the reader against trump, and us probably untrue
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
      Ah, Term, please look into Q. Do you wonder how is it Trumps seems to know, and be able to deflect, almost anything the Left throws at him? Did you ever wonder how our government became so corrupt creatures like Hillary and Strozk and Obama and the MSM and Hollywood elite became our "public figures" and seemed able to do anything they wanted? Q is a group, believed to be NSA (who therefore have the tools and access to find anything out about anybody) who have assembled the mounds of evidence, the Plan to implement a cleaning of our government, and went to Trump and asked him to run. That is the story. Q posts on a place called 8Chan and everyone is anonymous (hence the term "anons"). They contribute facts, disconnected facts to Q posts, to show that statements made ARE true, and connected, and act like a hive mind for freedom. You would be floored by the connections and facts that directly prove a LOT of the things we say here, that we were correct, about the creepy, illegal things done, the imposition of the Lefts will on our lives, and a LOT of what Ayn Rand saw going on. It is the war between good and evil, and left and right with a lot of people in the middle who see value in both philosophy's. Q is the fight of truth against lies, the facts against MSM propaganda, and Q uses FACTS and tells of events coming, and proves itself real over and over, to help people who have lost trust that there is a entity we can trust to protect us and the country, and the Constitution. The Serial Brain 2 video is just one thing Q posted to show how bad the evil is, but also WHY they needed to yank all these creeps security clearances, as they have been using them to make money and "leak" secrets and make up stories, to suit their agenda. The proof was how Brennan used the CIA to destroy Bachmann after she challenged him in open hearings about their illegal use of drones, AND the fact they did nothing to protect the Benghazi ambassador or his security team. She was punished by the Cabal and ejected from the game for that. That was the point, don't cross these creeps, or you will lose your position. Also you are right MSM is 99% useless propaganda. because the rich people owning them are part of this sordid group. It is a huge conspiracy that was to drive us to a one world government, and is being derailed by Q and Trump.
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
        I am not into conspiracy sort of stuff, except when they ARE conspiring against me. I do look for inconsistencies in what goes on. I also tune into emotional manipulations and hidden agendas that tweet my internal sensors. I also tune into the unbelievably intense hatred of trump and anyone who supports him, ever was friends with him, is related to him. Obviously they are afraid he is going to expose them. That hatred spills to the surface no matter what he does all out of proportion. It’s led me to totally distrust our institutions and the establishment. I have blacklisted most of Hollywood. I don’t even want to see people like dinero, Streep, madionna or watch their movies ( I liked mamma Mia and meet the parents- but I turn them off now)

        I don’t know exactly why they have this hatred, but I see it every day and makes me very suspicious

        I see a real civil war brewing, with the working people supporting trump, and the left even supporting violence (good ol Maxine). I have also stopped associating with people who I find out voted for Hillary and I wish they all would wear armbands so I don’t have to waste time asking them if they voted for her.

        Hillary was indeed a bad candidate. She didn’t know how to effectively hide her evil nature. In the quiet and anonymity of the voting booth, enough people felt that evil nature and voted against her

        2018 is another chance for people to quietly support the people who will help trump. They won’t show up in polls cause they don’t want to blackballed by the violent left.

        If trump gets support this midterm he has a shot at 2020. If not, the establishment won
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        • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
          Term,
          "I don’t know exactly why they have this hatred, but I see it every day and makes me very suspicious" They have it because their agenda is 180 degrees out of the mainstream american idea of independence and freedom, they want one world government with total control, so he is their most dire enemy.

          "I see a real civil war brewing, with the working people supporting trump" It has been in motion for the last 60 years, it is now becoming a "hot war" vice the cold war of slow sneaking, creeping into power, and taking over slowly. They outed themselves in Obamas administration when we saw the repeated blatant lies and abuses, manipulation and use of government to bend things their way. Hillary was the breaking point for most people, and now the sides are being defined and drawn.
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          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
            Perhaps the liberals want socialism, one world government as a way to cement their power, and trump is standing in the way if it- at least to a degree. But i sense an intense and personal hatred of trump.and the deplorable that goes beyond anything that he could actually do as president. It’s as if the whole movement that elected him is a deep down danger to the ciore of their being.

            Certain comments by liberals I remember When Hillary made the comment about deplorables It came from thedepths of her evil heart .(for once !). Another was Robert diniro saying he would like to punch trump in the nose. That wasn’t just a political reaction. It was personal and violent and from the heart also.
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            • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
              You are right on the comments, look at what they say, and try to place it in a normal, responsible society, and 90% of them cannot fit, yet they would fit perfectly in a totalitarian dictatorship of the elite. Their words reveal their motives. As well as their designs on us.
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              • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                If we accept for a moment that the obsession of the liberals is the social protection of an induvidual’s feelings- regardless of anything else- it explains their reliance on political correctness and their constant use of racism to to attack people. I note also that the MeToo movement sprung up to retaliate against men for offering women favors if they permitted sexual advances.
                Things like the casting couch- have sex with me if you really want a movie career.
                Interesting that the liberal men turned out to be the biggest offenders . Weinstein offers starlets a career if they sleep with him- and they take the consensual deal and now want their cake and eat it too.

                The point I am raising is that political correctness designed to protect a victim’s feelings (no matter how irrational) also applies to liberals also. It’s a chink in the armor of the liberal movement that can be exploited

                To defeat a liberal , point out how THEY have hurt people’s emotions, like the tv and movie moguls- even 10-20 years earlier. Use the liberal’s sanctity of emotion against them

                I haven’t developed this idea out very concisely, but when liberals decry a cinservative’s anti illegal immigration actions, one could turn that around on liberals by pointing out how the poor refugees aren’t being taken care of enough by the liberals so as to ease their emotional strains even after they get here.

                If the liberal government is supposed to be in the business of guarding against emotional distress, it’s dojng a terrible job. How terrible it is for the poor to be dependent on the crumbs of welfare and have to endure the strains of working. Take the liberal philosophy to the extreme where everyone is a victim and left with painful feelings by the liberal policies the very liberall but inadequate policies.

                The goal of elimination of emotional pain and upset as a political goal is like a rabbit chasing its tail and leads to more pain for everyone
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            • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
              You got it, term. That is exactly their agenda. It has been the main goal of all Socialist governments, but none of them ever survive. I think they decided a while back they needed total control to make their dumb a@@ system work, and by golly, they are gong to get it. If they have to kill a few million along the way, too bad. Look at Chicago....
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 5 years, 8 months ago
    Paul Ryan was always a liberal in disguise as a RINO. His wife is liberal, his past girlfriends, all liberal. He is not in the fight and never was. They have yet to admit that Obma submitted the first FISA request, one page, prior to the dossier, specifically to spy on Trump, before the election. I think Lynch signed off on it. However, it was denied for not being in proper form and having no backup, and specifically targeting a candidate. OObama then ordered them to do whatever they had to do to get the same results. Rosenstein knows all this, but sits arrogantly and vindictively above it all, same arrogant worthless piece of crap as the FBI agents and Comey. They all need to go and should have been gone months ago. Lynch needs to lose her law license.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
      Agreed, he was a deep cover agent for the Cabal, and their evil plans, it explains his total ineptitude, inability to do anything and aiding the Democrats at every turn. A large steaming turd.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
    I would say that the more the swamp defends itself, the closer we get to single terms. We the citizens can do this all on our own. Simply refuse to vote for any incumbent. They get ONE term to do what they promise. There is no lifelong coddling to be available in politics like it has been. Its time for US to fix this; the congress will never vote to restrict terms to ONE.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
    I see it differently, I think his statement means that if you want to fix the problem (obstructionism), picking one person to "punish" isn't going to change the culture.

    While we want to think that if you pick one out and flog & beat him, suddenly the rest will snap in line - in reality, for government, passive-aggressiveness prevails, so the rest would "rebel". in my opinion, f-it, burn it down, but he's being realistic about it.

    That being said, Rosenstein needs to be removed from office, most honorable people would resign if they are dragged through the mud in every publication - but he's also a hero to the libs, so he's holding out- thinking if he survives Trump the next dem might make him AG or whatever.
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
      I am starting to understand why there is so much violence and terrorism today, and it seems to be increasing. People are getting tired of battling these bastions of power, and they just revert to schoolyard solutions- beat the crap out of the people who deserve it. Today, the only option seems to be to just shoot them and then get shot by the police and its all over- no more upset.

      Would I be upset if someone shot Rosenstein or Muller, Schumer, Pelosi, Maxine Waters, and the like ? They wouldnt last very long in a schoolyard without getting taught a lesson (which I guess they never had)
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    • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 8 months ago
      "most honorable people would resign if they are dragged through the mud in every publication"
      Are you talking about Rosey or POTUS?
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      • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
        Rosenstein sits there like a smug little liar.

        POTUS enjoys the fight, and certainly doesn’t remain quiet. He has a fan-following for not putting up with MSM’s fabrications and distortions.

        All you have to do is watch the contrast between financial reporting on FoxBusiness, Yahoo Finance, etc.. on how fantastic the economy is doing- No mention, at all, on MSM news - they pull out one thread of some bad news somewhere to poster-up for their 30 minute broadcast.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 8 months ago
          While I agree with you on POTUS and Rosey and the MSM, I also recognize that the financial "news" sources have a vested interest in manipulating the readers to buy when Wall St is secretly selling short and sell when Wall St is secretly buying. Its a completely manipulated market that benefits insiders within the cartel. They will throw Trump's economy under the bus whenever they can profit from misleading the public in that way.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 5 years, 8 months ago
    I would rather see Rosenstein, Comey, Strzok, Page, et. al. tried for treason against the Constitution and serve life imprisonment...drain the swamp....
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    • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 8 months ago
      Agree except for the punishment. Life in prison can be commuted by corrupt presidential pardon in the future.
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
        Our problem is that we need a good CEO to run the government agencies, who can and will fire people without fear of all the political blowback.
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        • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
          It’s not a lack of “will”, it’s a lack of authority. Under the Civil Service Act, a government employee needs to either steal something (like a pencil) or kill someone. Not doing their job, not meeting deadlines, or generally being an asshole isn’t grounds to dismiss someone.

          If you recall, Trump got the VA Secretary legislative power through Congress to “fire” someone.
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          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
            Incredible. No wonder our government if filled with idiots
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            • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
              Just stating the problem.. the obvious assumption is the leadership is incompetent, but the problem is 100 years of liberal protectionist policies codified into law for government employees.

              In California, if a union government employee wants to be 'gone' all day to do precinct-walks for democrat candidates, honestly, I don't think there would be any management challenge. If the same person were to be 'gone' to help a Republican candidate - they better use paid-vacation time or would be terminated as AWOL - specifically to get rid of that evil conservative in their midst...
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              • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                I like being a deplorable. Hillary didnt speak her mind often, but she certainly did that day. And that alienated half the voters right there. Within days there were "deplorable me" T-shirts all over Amazon.
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                • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
                  I've hated her ass for far longer than that, I was deployed to Bosnia a few weeks before her "getting out of the plane and running for cover under sniper fire" bullshit comment. Her husband didn't let American troops in Bosnia carry side-arms or rifles, and the few who did weren't authorized ammo for the magazines.. "Sniper fire" my ass! She's been a liar since her mommy dropped her on her head when she was a baby. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/f...
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                  • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                    I had a visceral dislike of her for a long time. I thought she was a "vicious bitch" under that thin veneer of civility. When she ran for president in 2016, I noted her handlers insisted she have this big open mouthed smile to thicken that veil of civility. I thought that at the last minute someone would come up and kick her out of the race. I thought for awhile it would be Sanders, but in the very end it was Trump. No wonder she htes him
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                    • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
                      I recommend everyone look at who has and how much has been given to the Clintons. Their foundation has a small staff, they put "86%" (which I doubt) toward programs, but when you look a the amount of money there, skimming about 10% for themselves is very significant. Nonetheless, the Kingdom of Kuwait or a Saudi Sheikh isn't going to kick down $10 million without expecting something in return. We're not talking a $25 monthly credit card contribution like a Bernie donor.

                      https://www.clintonfoundation.org/con...

                      As bad as she is, I have a greater visceral reaction toward socialists like Bernie or the New York one. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution from socialists and communists, I have no interest in letting that hell take root here. 100 million... that's how many socialism murdered in the 20th century. It sounds great until you run out of other people's money and you have chased away all the producers in society.
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                      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                        At least Sanders, that new creature in NY are honest. Most of the politicians today are NOT honest and they tell you one thing and do another. I would rather face a thief who tells me he will steal my stuff than face one tht tells me he is my friend and then steals from me
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                        • Posted by scojohnson 5 years, 8 months ago
                          These two clowns certainly lie like any of the others.. Let's take "Medicare for All". It's not Medicare.. Medicare has private supplemental coverage, co-pays, and private pharma plans.

                          What these two are talking about is "Medicaid for All".. you know.. the stuff with a $16 limit for an office visit, and a suitably-bottom priority for doctors and by law "shall" recover its expenses by taking all of your assets if you die. The UK is seriously looking at shit-canning their national health care and anyone with "means" in Canada has private insurance and doesn't use theirs.

                          The other straight-out lie: "The tax cut would have paid for free college education"..,. Umm... the tax plan is calculated in a 10-year term, like all federal budgets. These two liars (although an ignorant dumb-shit in the case of Ocasio-Cortez) conveniently do not mention that the "free college" estimate is only for ONE YEAR... compared to 10 years of tax cuts (now fueling 4.1% growth). Each 1% of growth, by the way, is another $1 trillion of economic activity every year and another 1 or 2 million jobs. If this math is so important without worrying about a slippery slope, San Francisco spends around $100 million a year on homeless programs for under 10,000 homeless people. Hell, just give them all a check and they won't be poor anymore and you can fire the social workers.

                          I don't see the 'angst' over healthcare and education costs. Education goes up in lockstep with increases in the student loan limits, stop increasing the student loan limits and universities will figure it out like anyone else. If you are building a $550k house, but you only get an appraisal for $520k, the homebuilder doesn't walk away - what the hell are they going to do with their capacity they don't use? They sell it. So will universities. The military is also a great funding source, it helped with both of my bachelor's degrees and my MBA. Works fine, I highly recommend it.

                          Healthcare is only expensive if you don't have a decent income, fix the income side and it becomes a non-issue. You fix the income with strong growth instead of 20 years of stagnant, what happened was inflation and the Rule of 20 with zero income increase. Fix that, and health care and housing and education look like a 50% cut.

                          There is one thing for certain, it's a little hard to live in America and raise a family while working at McDonalds or Walmart. Newsflash, it was hard to raise a family while working at Kmart or McDonald's when I was a kid - that's why my entire teenager paycheck from Kmart went to buy gas, insurance, and make the car payment on my 10-year-old Mustang. Mom & Dad covered the rest... that's kind of how it works. Don't like it? If you can fog a mirror, you can get a student loan. Figure it out. It sucked, that's why I joined the military, to make a better life for myself. It's really, really sickening listening to the lazy snowflakes cry about life like their the first generation to have any headwinds. 5,000 ways to fix that, it's called "put down the cell phone, pick one, and stop crying".
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                          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                            I meant they let u know where they are at. They do mean Medicaid, which is better than insurance u can buy ! It has essentially no copays, free prescriptions, dental , and no deductibles or premiums

                            Much better than Medicare. And would bk the govt much quicker
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 8 months ago
    What was the point of filing impeachment art if Ryan was going to reject?
    Known beforehand?
    Optics.
    Think logically.
    Could Sessions publicly challenge [RR] w/o creating a dilemma?
    What events would immediately transpire if Sessions challenged [RR]?
    Would it immediately demonstrate that Sessions must be aware of key Mueller facts?
    Facts (or failure of duty) that he cannot possibly ‘know’ if recused?
    Facts (a case) he is suppose to be recused from?
    Think logically.
    One challenge to [RR] would immediately trigger attacks to remove Sessions given his clear involvement in receiving information re: a case he is fully recused from.
    Who does Huber [directly] report to?
    Is it normal [RR] is side-stepped re: Huber CoC?
    Why is this important?
    Why did Sessions recuse?
    Is the LEFT attacking Sessions?
    What advantage(s) exist based on this setup?
    POTUS publicly expresses his anger re: his recusal?
    Do you believe POTUS would allow a complete takeover of his DOJ if nothing was being done behind the scenes to hold people accountable?
    When POTUS states “the swamp is being drained” do you believe it?
    When POTUS states “it’s happening” do you believe it?
    Do you believe POTUS would allow Sessions & [RR] to run HIS DOJ if something wasn’t being done to his liking?
    LOGICAL THINKING.
    Clickbait derails logical thought.
    Think for yourself.
    Trust yourself.
    Mueller investigating POTUS’ Tweets for obstruction?
    You have a front row seat.
    Enjoy the show.
    Q

    To add: future proves past

    POTUS Controls Paul Ryan
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    12 Jun 2018 - 10:09:05 PM
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    12 Jun 2018 - 10:03:42 PM
    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1721871...

    Just a reply to Q from last thread about Ingraham interview; It was an awful interview. Once again, weak, ineffectual, limp wristed promises to hold a vote, to hold Rosenstein in contempt. Who. Cares?

    Until Rosenstein is hauled off by the House Sergeant At Arms, as granted per the Supreme Court, it means NOTHING. Anyone remember Holder? Nothing happened to him. Nothing. This pisses me off to no end. Just close the fist and crush them already. What the hell is Trump waiting for?!
    >>1723305

    Full weight of the House v. ARM.
    Why are optics important?
    How does DC work?
    WHY IS RYAN STILL IN OFFICE (lame duck)?
    WHY IS RYAN LEAVING OFFICE?
    WHO CONTROLS RYAN?
    AUTISTS ENGAGED?
    Q
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    • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
      Sessions recused himself because he knew the whole russian collusion thing was a pile of sh$#, and he didnt want to be soiled by going along or opposing it. There was no winning for his political career, which is all that counts.

      The house and senate leadership sucks and is worthless. Ryan should have just left the day he quit. I thought the house and senate voted to pass things. what do they need a "leader" for. Congressmen are big boys and should be able to figure out what their constituents want and vote accordingly without a "leader".
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      • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
        While I agree with the sentiment, technically speaking the Speaker of the House is a Constitutional office because it factors into the Presidential line of succession (right behind the Vice President). From a practical perspective, the Speaker is responsible for managing the business of the House in general session, so I don't really think you can eliminate that position.

        Could you get rid of the Whip positions? Minority Leader? etc. Those I think you could get rid of and quash some of the gate-keeping that goes on. And I'm totally in favor of banning by Constitutional fiat the current requirements that put party fundraising requirements on Committee Leadership positions. That's a load of garbage.

        I had high hopes for Congressman Ryan when he was the primary one bucking Obamacare. I thought he was an excellent choice as VP running mate with Mitt Romney. I have watched his fall into the quagmire of the swamp with much disappointment. He certainly isn't the same Paul Ryan I once cheered for.
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        • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
          Paul Ryan is a bit of a snake. That part made me wary of him. He goes as the wind blows. I wonder that the real reason is that he wants out of the House. Maybe he just cant stand Trump, which seems to be a reason others have used.
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          • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 8 months ago
            He was compromised and turned into a RINO.
            He resigned because that choice was better than face criminal charges.
            The massive and growing list of resignations is over 3600 polititions and executives.
            The hate Trump because he will take them on and win.
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            • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
              And no one has cvommitted to not prosecuting them, even if they do resign. The one questin is Trey Gowdy, he is not running again, for some reason, and I am seeing him as one of the bad guys. The Michelle Bachmann thing was a real surprise by SB2, but it all adds up and Brennan is the poster child for pulling their clearances the moment they leave office, which should have been a no brainer.
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    • Posted by jimjamesjames 5 years, 8 months ago
      The SWAMP needs to be drained from the TOP
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
        I could fix it in a day. Sessions/Rosenstein + any obama appointees. Give Ryan his walking papers now instead of waiting till HE chooses to leave.

        Censor CNN and exclude their reporters. That might cause all the news agencies to rebel and to not go to press briefings. So What really.

        There is TV, YouTube, Twitter that would all be happy to broadcast what the President of the USA has to say.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 8 months ago
          That is what a dictator would do. Term2 this country is a constitutional republic. It is great when the rule of law is followed. When corrupted and That has been the problem for decades.
          You can not ignore the laws to correct it. The media is imploding . Again the censorship is anti freedom, anti free speech and is a leftist tactic.
          You tube and Twitter are censoring conservatives.
          Think logically.
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          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
            I wish were still a constitutional republic! We have turned into a mob ruled democracy which rules by fascism really. Our govt lets us “own” our businesses but they are controlled by the govt bureaucrats. Isn’t that what the nazis did?
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            • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
              The point of the Plan, to return us to it.
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              • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                I am wondering if that is possible once democracy has taken hold. The country is so divided right down the middle, it’s hard to imagine securing a majority. Trump got in there but the dems are poised to win in 2018 and impeach him
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                • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
                  Do you really think so? The Dems are doing such a good job of illustrating what a danger they are to the country, they are desperately trying new paint like "Social Democrats" to hide it, and it will not fly.
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                  • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                    The dems are desperate to squash trump, who the people elected fair and square. He burst on the scene and just won. The dems were so Vicky and it cost them. I fear they won’t make THAT mistake again. But they are split also. The sanders democratic socialists and the establishment democrats are both strong and it might divide the bite
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                    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
                      Yes, and Independents will not fall for the chum in the water, and are routinely ignored in any polls making the polls useless, since they were the ones who elected Trump.
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                      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                        I knew trump was going to win,absent some chicanery from Hillary. The tip-off for me was the excitement I saw at a rally in vegas that I never saw before, and the fact that when I said something supporting trump to working people on the street, I saw them look around to make sure no one could hear as they agreed with me. That meant to me that the polls were useless and trump had widespread support in the quiet of the voting booth. Also, people just knew Hillary was crooked deep down and when it came to push the button they just couldn’t accept she was honest.
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                        • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
                          Interesting, as I did not think they would be able to beat all the tools the Dems had assembled and the false votes, ineligles, dead people etc that would surely rise from the grave to help Hillary. I think she really believed it as well as was incredibly angry someone stole HER election. I wonder if there was almost electronic warfare and counter warfare involved, and some genius thought they could take that, twist it in with some fake dossier stuff, and claim "collusion and fraud"?
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                          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                            I think it was an election of manipulation vs deep internal human feelings, and the manipulators lost. Half the people just felt good about trump and bad about Hillary no matter what Hillary said

                            The problem is that I didnt see an intellectual basis for trump support, so it might be hard for him to continue to win support. He makes me feel good like he understands and is one of us, but he doesn’t really talk about rights and the evils of government monopolies in terms of principles
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                            • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
                              You have a point,, I see the left as using the emotional part as much, or more than the right in this contest, and the positive message seemed to be one that attracted more to it, than the negative. He does not seem to want to talk in terms of principles and the monopoly thing, basically because he has not got the ability to take them out yet, and 98% of government is committed to maintaining their power over us with them. Look at how crappy the Republican party responded to ANY of his requests, I cannot recall any law or reform they have passed yet that was what he asked for, he just takes what he can get. That is Ryans failure.
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        • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
          One point of clarification: the President can't do a thing about elected officials such as Paul Ryan. Only the people of Wisconsin can issue a recall of their active Representative and that is usually called an election.

          Also, there is a law on the books that curtails the ability of the President to fire members of the bureaucracy unless they are appointed by the President and subject to confirmation hearings in the Senate. I don't know where Rosenstein sits there because my understanding is that he got the seat because someone else stepped down - not because he was appointed to fill it. Thus that one is kind of murky. Any clarification would be appreciated.

          All that technicality aside, I agree with you and would happy join you with broom and dust pan. I'd lose over half the Senate, over half of the House, and 80% or more of the Federal bureaucracy... And it would all come back after the next election. :( Sigh.
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          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
            we all should not vote for any incumbents. That way we enforce a single term rule for all elected officials. True that it cleans out some good wood temporarily,, but might encourage congress to pass single term limits, and then we can vote in the best candidate
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            • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
              I have mixed feelings about term limits, but thing in general they are a good idea, though for me it would be two terms for a Senator and four or five for a Congressman. I think one is a little too much turnover.
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              • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
                We need competition and a sense of promising and delivering. If they CAN be re-elected, they are looking only to their next campaign to put food on the table. If there is only ONE term, there is pressure to get on with it.
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                • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
                  "If there is only ONE term, there is pressure to get on with it."

                  Actually, no - it becomes strictly a trophy. It is only the opportunity to retain one's office that gives them any sense of responsibility to the voters in the first place. I have to seriously disagree with you on this.

                  I think one thing that would dramatically help would be the repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment and the re-establishment of the Senate as a representative body for the States.
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                  • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 8 months ago
                    I agree with term on one term and with you on the 17th. Eliminate re-election and only allow political donations of maximum $20 by constituents who have registered to vote only (to candidates for congress.)
                    In fact, having the congress pass no laws at all would be a big improvement over the past 110 years of unconstitutional laws.
                    How about an amendment placing a 2 year sunset rule on all legislation including all existing legislation, and a requirement for all reps to have read every bill and to pass a multiple choice quiz on its meaning before voting- with public record of the test questions and answers of every congressperson. (I suspect that would probably eliminate most congress critters and then very little would be passed. It would probably also be despised as a racist measure.)
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                    • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 8 months ago
                      "Eliminate re-election and only allow political donations of maximum $20 by constituents who have registered to vote only (to candidates for congress.)"

                      This is very similar to a measure I would advocate: that contributions to political candidates (or political action committees) be restricted to those residing within and eligible to vote in that candidate's electoral precinct. I don't like the idea of hard dollar amounts simply because compensating becomes a game like the current annual 4% increases in the budget being considered the "baseline".

                      "In fact, having the congress pass no laws at all would be a big improvement over the past 110 years of unconstitutional laws."

                      You're not wrong there and the Founders certainly agreed. They intentionally created a Legislative process that was to be deliberate and thoughtful and not easily persuaded by the mob. This was severely undermined by the Seventeenth Amendment IMHO.

                      "How about an amendment placing a 2 year sunset rule on all legislation including all existing legislation"

                      Very similar to my version of a Constitutional Amendment: no spending may be authorized beyond the current term of the House. Additionally, a second Constitutional Amendment would limit the authorized spending of the Federal Government (including debt service) to the actual tax receipts collected two years prior. That would not only mean the ongoing spending programs (like entitlements) would be difficult to keep going but there would be a hard limit on the spending as well.

                      "and a requirement for all reps to have read every bill"

                      There's a very simple remedy for this used in my State which is very effective: before any Bill may be brought up for a vote it must be read out loud before a Quorum in its entirety. Say goodbye to these omnibus bills or bureaucratic disasters like the misnamed Affordable Care Act!
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    • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 years, 8 months ago
      As I replied to scojohnson below...I think the President should declassify all of these "memos" being requested and make them plublic. In the sunlight Rosenstein would melt into a puddle of swamp water/muck.
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
        I dont understand why he doesnt just DO that. Must be afraid of political pressure of obstruction.

        Note that Trump's lawyer said he would permit an interview with Mueller on any subject EXCEPT OBSTRUCTION. That seems to be the only one having criminal penalties for Trump.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
      I am still mystified as to what they think they are doing, unless they plan to let this all drag out until Jan 2019 and haul all of them in to Courts Martial, where they have much easier rules of evidence.
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      • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
        My estimate is that NOTHING will happen at all in the end. The witch-hunt will continue until witches are found enough to justify the spending of the millions. They will not stop until dirt is found on Trump, which will be embarrassing but not fatal, but will take up energy and time from Trump (which is all they really want).
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        • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
          Don't underestimate the power Q has, they have all the dirt, since they have access to all the sources, and can comb their way through it, I bet they even have all the dirt on Billy Boy and his trips with Epstein.
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          • Posted by term2 5 years, 8 months ago
            Welcome to the age of the hidden agenda. Not much is as it seems. Truth is better obtained by watching what happens and making a decision based on that without listening to what they say
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            • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
              Truth is a slippery commodity today, because what the bad guys want us to believe, is NOT what is "true". That is how they control the sheeple. Why do you think is is so easy to find 500 morons to riot or protest for something, even if not true? Like the "ICE needs to be abolished" crap. The point of Q is they have the real facts, basically pulled from the secret accounts and servers, and that will be their undoing. There may be some really, really bad things come to light, concerning children and these creeps.
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  • Posted by mminnick 5 years, 8 months ago
    It appears the the House speaker is going to save Rosenstein. He should let the House vote. If enough want the Impeachment to go forward they will vote for it. If not, they won't. What is Ryan afraid of?
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  • Posted by exceller 5 years, 8 months ago
    Trey Gowdy is a lot of hot air with no results. True, he likes to "interrogate" and use techniques that appear to be digging for the truth but if you look back he has nothing to show as resulting from this. Nothing happened after the Benghazi hearings or any of the other confrontations that he chaired.

    These people will finagle through the next months or even years without being removed. Trump can do only that much. Against the consistent opposition it is a miracle he progressed this far.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 8 months ago
      As I said, I have no idea what is up with Trey, or if he is playing a part for the whole show that needs to be played, the "Interrogator". Since he does a good job of doing that and getting the facts out, even when the witness says nothing.
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