Galt's Gulch
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The walkaway campaign

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 9 months ago to Video
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short video of why one person is walking away from liberalism and democratic party.

People of all kinds, even those that have been taught to think they are victims are awakening.
SOURCE URL: https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag

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  • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 9 months ago
    WOW! That was powerful and so well said! And it is so true!
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 9 months ago
      Enjoy this very rare occasion...
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      • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 9 months ago
        I don't know. I posted two videos from other libs leaving the Dems yesterday on FB.
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        • Posted by NealS 5 years, 9 months ago
          Keep it up, even on FB. I had to close down my FB account as my liberal "friends" were becoming far too adamant in their ignorance. I recently turned it back on after several months of cooling off. I've found that one on one makes it a lot easier to get the truth across but I also know my efforts are insignificant. We need a Trump type of person to buy something like CNN and do some major house cleaning. Perhaps that will happen after this cycle is over.
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          • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 9 months ago
            Yes, I have an extremely liberal sister who I love to pieces because we grew up together. We are very close and I do not for the life of me know how this happened to her. Me and my two brothers are all Ayn Rand Objectivists, so go figure. She argues with me all the time about my posts. I try to respond with facts and try to stay cool but she starts name-calling and gets so mad. So I informed her that I would delete her political posts from my FB page because I do not know how to talk to her politically anymore. We share and lot of good stuff too and we do love each other but we both are very deep-seeded in our politics. I have told her we are polar opposites in our values and sense of life. I told her I do not ever see people as victims. But anyway, I could go on forever. It just frustrating at times.
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            • Posted by CaptainKirk 5 years, 9 months ago
              ycandrea, the good news is that you KNOW she is not evil. And the HARD part is showing her that she has been lied to, and she has bought the lie.

              Here is an exercise that might work. First, accept that she probably has a BIG HEART, and she GENUINELY cares for everyone. She does NOT want to see anyone suffer. And there is NOTHING wrong with that. It's what makes mothers into moms, IMHO.

              Second, understand that she is looking at ONLY THE GOOD PEOPLE (Like her). BTW, everyone EITHER thinks they are honest, or that EVERYONE is as dishonest as they are. Very few people view themselves as singularly dishonest/bad.

              So, the strategy is to ask her to play a game. You want to see how X works. (govt handouts, open borders, etc).
              Then ask who it benefits... Ask who pays the price. (You will probably see "individuals" benefit, and the GOVT/Group pays).
              Then construct the next half of the puzzle, where it becomes obvious that resources are limited. Or massive changes have to happen.

              Example: Open Borders... She identifies who benefits, who pays.
              Now, what message does this send to everyone else in the world?
              So, if we do that will illegal immigration increase or decrease over time?
              If illegals are 10% of the population, but commit 75% of the murders... Should we be letting more in?
              Do you CARE about the people that are killed. If an illegal killed someone you loved, and they came back in and killed someone else you loved, would you change your mind?

              So, the point is to BLEND the facts with feelings. And to elicit the feelings that are closer to that person than the unnamed person being helped.

              Scott Adams has a blog post about getting people to SLOWLY realize everyone sees the world through their own lens.
              And part of getting them to change is having them realize THEY HAVE A LENS. The people on the left think we are heartless (ie, our lens is only driven by material things, not feelings).

              You should NOT try to get your sister to score a touchdown. Your goal is to get her to move the ball in the right direction down the field.
              BTW, videos like this one... Might help.

              Think about this. Do you think that Peosi/Waters/Schummer are AS SCARED of Trump as they TELL THEIR Voters to be?
              If the answer is no... Then you realize what this gentlemen did... They are MANIPULATING people with emotions/fear to NOT LISTENING to the other side.

              Even emotionally driven people do not like feeling manipulated.

              If you can get there... She will start coming around.
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              • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 9 months ago
                Thank you CaptainKirk! She is pretty entrenched in her ideology, but I will try a few of the things you suggested. I am copying and pasting your message to a Word doc so I have it with me.
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              • Posted by LibertyBelle 5 years, 9 months ago
                I formulated my political creed in the summer, when I was 12 years old. And it wasn't about "helping" people. It was partly about learning about the Civil War in school in Virginia, while being raised by two parents from Iowa and Minnesota. I thought about the citizens' of the Southern States having voted to secede. But had the slaves gotten a vote? After a while, I thought, the basic purpose of a government (a force agency) was to protect the rights of the individual human being--not those of the state. And therefore, a just government should be established for that purpose. And so, when I heard about Roosevelt's "good deeds", I did not understand why those should have been done by the government. And I thought in 1964, the civil rights bill was partly right, to abolish state-mandated segregation, but wrong to tell private property owners whom they had to allow onto the place--as much as I didn't like bigotry in private places either.--And it seemed that in this respect, I was alone in the world. But one night, in the library in Waynesboro, I saw a trading bookself--put one in and take on away to keep--and I saw Ayn Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness. I knew I was selfish, but I didn't think it could be a virtue. But I leafed through it, and saw part of it near the end where it discussed politics. So I traded for it, and took it away. (Later there was a sign on it prohibiting the swaps to people under 16). (This e-mail is for ycandrea, I don't always manage to get the reply in the right space).
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  • Posted by bsmith51 5 years, 9 months ago
    The cynic in me has the following theory: There is no downside to the Dems going radically nuts right now because they're so clearly out of power. Come the 2020 election cycle, though, Hillary could be exhumed and sold as a moderate voice of reason for the benefit of both the radical left and never-Trump right. Or is it just me who's crazy?
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    • Posted by $ rainman0720 5 years, 9 months ago
      If you're crazy, you're in good company.

      I've shared my fear of Kamala Harris with this group, and I got some fantastic responses. But she's just one of several who could make a charge.

      Your observation that Hildabeast could be sold as the moderate voice of reason is an astute (and scary) one.

      As of right now, there doesn't appear to be a front runner to challenge Trump (assuming he runs again in 2020). And with nobody stepping to the front of that line, it won't surprise me in the least if Shrillary tries to shoehorn herself into another try at the presidency.

      God help us all if 3rd time's a charm.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 5 years, 9 months ago
      Fundamentally, as long as the Economy stays solid, and people are doing better. Trump should win re-election. But his BASE will have to show up, and the Swing Votes cannot have a suitable alternative.
      With that said.

      It means HRC cannot seriously run again (with any chance of winning).

      And I will tell you why, first they blocked Bernie who had more appeal, the did the debates opposite Monday night football. I've never seen less reviewed debates. I think HRC was paying O'Malley to stay in..

      But worse. My dad said it best "I could not vote for that Criminal. If she was my daughter, I would be ASHAMED!".
      And I feel a LOT of people who HELD THEIR NOSE and voted for Trump, are thanking their lucky stars.

      Now, give them that same choice again. You have 3 options:
      1) They admit they were wrong, and go with the insider/criminal HRC... Doubtful.
      2) They are Guilted and bullied into voting for HRC. Doubtful... That was this last election where I had female friends who told me to tell others she supported HRC even though she was from South America and voting for Trump!
      3) They sit out, because they cannot tell...

      When I give speeches, I like to ask who voted for Trump? And Who would vote for him in 2020? And it is all the same hands, or more.

      They are NOT winning with a message.
      Now, if they tank the economy, and hike up interest rates to 12% (remember before Bush Sr. lost his election, the Federal Reserve raised rates 3 times in a row to fight "future" inflation... Then after Bill was elected, they cleared 3 increases in one fell swoop and the party was on).

      The upside is that we are NO LONGER 45/45/10, we are 40/40/20 And the Independents will determine the races.
      That is who the Dems are going to have to win over. Otherwise, I think Trumps base is probably too strong, if they show up...
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 9 months ago
      Don't know if the cycle will die (the we generation) or if will revive itself as we start the Me generation cycle.
      But give it another 80 years and we'll be right back here...like the snake that eats itself, tail first.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 5 years, 9 months ago
    As far as I read videos of this type:

    These people realize that the Democratic Party are using them--and for ends they, the walkers, did not choose. They resent that on general principle. I would have thought they no longer cared about destroying America. Turns out they care about someone using them and not telling them the goals. Turns out, in short, that they won't get onto a bus without a destination sign.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 9 months ago
      Shouldn't everyone know "Where" the buss is headed before they get on?

      It amazes me that for once, they are putting the end results of their "Pun Tang" behind them...pun intended.
      [meaning, it's no longer about making America perverted again] - Reality and truth prevail abet still a bit wobbly.
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  • Posted by NealS 5 years, 9 months ago
    Hopefully we will see more of these people "coming out" and "switching", like this guy, and Candice Owens, she's really trying to flaunt it. As people start talking about it, the MSM will eventually have to start reporting it too or just become extinct. I'd really like to hear that CNN is going broke, that might make the others realize their own true prejudices. "Perception is reality" actually has a lot of meaning.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 5 years, 9 months ago
    So, if he is against all the collectivistic things that he talked about, why was he in the Democratic Party in the first place? Did he fall for all the Socialistic Rooseveltian New Deal crap? Even as a child, I was somewhat puzzled by the Democrats' claiming to be for civil rights, when I knew that Gov. George Wallace of Alabama was a Democrat.
    But at least this guy has seen some light. Somebody should introduce him to the writings of Ayn Rand. There was a space after the video to make a comment, but because of certain difficulties I have had with Google (partly involving certain weird calls on my landline, rotary dial phone and instructions to push non-existent buttons, e.g. "1" and "2"; I now hang up when I get such calls), I didn't send him a comment. I didn't even get his name. But what the h***, if he has left them, he has left them, so I'd like to say, "Welcome, fella! Glad to see you!"
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  • Posted by BCRinFremont 5 years, 9 months ago
    A thought experiment: If this fine young person were offered a cushy, ruling class position in the socialist dystopia, would he be so adamant in his condemnation.
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