Democrats recent treatment of children.

Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago to History
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In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Reno v Flores. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his family’s arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.)

The Court in Reno v Flores decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings.

As a result, The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adult while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment and other normal life cycle amenities that incarcerated individuals do not enjoy.

It was considered a “victory” for human rights. By separating adult and child, we protected the children, reducing any harm done to them for their parent’s or accompanying adult’s decisions

Many recent fake news stories show photos from 2014 when complaining about the undocumented illegal alien childrens care under Trump admin.


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  • Posted by term2 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I am thinking that there is no possibility of an actual gulch in this age of the NSA, the loss of privacy, the invasions and the powers of current government.

    The closest we can come to that, especially if we are older, is to hide in plain sight, as they say. We got a taste of how bad things can get with nazi germany. Today, the government would be a lot more controlling and vicious. We got a reprieve with Trump for a few years and should enjoy it, but whether its 2020 or 2024 when the socialists take over again, things will continue down the path of collectivism.

    I do think that the USA was really unique and the result of a perfect storm of individualism that is definitely not present today. Too bad.

    But, I am going to enjoy the freedoms we have now, although I wouldnt want to bring a child into the world and have to endure what is to come.
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  • Posted by 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    LMAO .....From the sixties : besides not squeezing the charmin." Get in the groove with Northern Tissue"
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  • Posted by term2 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    yeah, I think you are right. Makes me want to drop off the grid and hide out in plain sight in a really remote location (hmm. that WAS the idea behind the gulch...)
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Problem is, The Whole World is goin down the tubes...I say, go down the tubes in your own country! It ain't no better here!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Holy smoke! That's the first time I was responsible for a winning bet. Will I have to put a disclaimer after WFA? (Not responsible for games of chance)
    Unfortunately, I am dieting and eating primarilly low calorie dog food. Got to lose weight or else, says my Arab cardiologist. I cautioned him that I would not convert to Islam. He said that it was OK, he was a 7th Day Adventist.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    So catch them and give them a ride BACK across the border. As a practical matter, we need a barricade at the border, seeing as though its so porous. I think Trump calls it a "wall"
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  • Posted by term2 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    This country is going down the tubes. I almost wonder if we should just open the borders and let the country fail faster and then rebuilt
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  • Posted by term2 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Mexico doesnt care about stopping people from coming into mexico on their way to the USA, since it wont be their problem. We should just return illegal entries to the other side of the border, PERIOD. Let mexico stop them from coming into mexico in the first place.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny.
    This one has been around a while: Husband comes home early before his wife, so when she does, he meets her at the door. Standing in the doorway, she announces that she has made a decision. She want's a boob job!
    He says, dear, I love you just the way you are!
    She says, She wants to feel more like a woman,
    He says, ok, but you don't need an operation. She says: WHAT!, he says, yea, really, all you have to do is: everyday, rub a piece of toilet paper between your boobs. She says...how's that gona work?...wait, wait for it, wait just a little longer...........He says......Look what it's done for your ass!
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  • Posted by 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    They will get the facts. The corrupt never thought they would have to cover their tracks.
    The house cleaning is done the pain is here .
    The left will pay $ to incite riots and the rhetoric is turning violent with the nazi cries from the virtue signalers.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I cannot believe, just after the revelations that ARE out in the open, the fact the "dismissed" IG report revealed 13 Obama top officials had G mail accounts (including Obama) and he outright lied in 2015 (I do not have any email accounts or use any). Yet, when it was revealed in 2011 or 12 that Pelosis stooge who "cooked" everything and lied to get Obama Care passed, people still did not care or demand her impeachment and trial for her criminal acts, and she gets re-elected. Is Q Anon real? It all depends on whether you believe that the clues he gives point to the things you KNOW they have done, but no one has prosecuted or proven openly. How much faith can you have, when the political system has been SO corrupt the last 80-100 years? I have seen enough "facts" (the Sessions letters to Congress, the way the IG report played out) to believe that it is real and will happen. But other people sometimes need a lot more facts before they will make the leap of faith.
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  • Posted by 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Nickursis, I agree totally with you.
    I wonder how many people need to collaborate
    In criminal activities
    for most in the gulch to believe in a conspiracy?
    You know like the top people in the DOJ and the FBI conspiring and acting together to take down a duly elected
    P
    O
    T
    U
    S.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    CD, you may be right, it is hard to tell anything when everything is ran behind layers and layers of obfuscation. The political monsters hide behind more layers than most shell companies and tax evaders set up. However, the sheer amount of corruption and conspiracy points to a well organized effort with a LOT of money behind it (money for people, buses, protests, riots, false flag operations, instigators and agitators). There are numerous cases where people have been documented as "paid to riot", where people were "bused in" (do you recall how many kids were bused in for the anti gun rally?) Mom and dad did not pay for that. So, then, where does all the money come from? a secret GoFundme? No, there is a "grand conspiracy of the left" and has been for the last 80-100 years. Go back and look at the steady creep of "progressive agenda items" for those 100 years, and how it has crossed many presidents, congresses, leaders, businees interests. A whole herd of people are betting on a one world government, as well as numerous things today (like a Mexican President saying today it is "their right" to come to America) pushing the weak parts like borders, voting and citizenship. All these are simple to fix, if the fix can be made (did you notice that Congress cannot even pass a basic law to say "stay out"?) Lots of people professing to be Republicans are the RINO variety (like McCain) who are pushing this agenda and working for it. There is a reason 89 people tied to the Clintons have been mysteriously found to have "committed suicide". Go look up Meena Ark, and their connection, and realize how drugs and money and destabilization are all tools to make this country decay, and then make it move to the Liberal vision of total control and subservience to the future one world government.
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  • Posted by 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    LOL. The odds of losing 8 x $6 was my downside.
    I cashed a grand total of $106.50 tickets
    Until winning 37.5% of my picks . Now the downside is that percent dropping if we go again.

    It only took 1 1/2 pounds a year for forty years to get to this point.
    BTW I have been told for forty years that I out kicked my coverage. I just say "yeah ...but it's my end zone"
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  • Posted by coaldigger 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I say "fan the flames" because I do not believe in the grand conspiracy of the Left. Individuals want POWER and if they can only take what is vacant that is what they will go for. In our system of representative democracy it is easiest for politicians to be populists so the model to get elected is to find out what the people "feel" that they want. Clinton used to take opinion polls on everything and whatever the result was, that is what he was for. The right moved to the center, so the left moved further left. Crazy man Trump pretends to be a populist and pounds on the trivia of the hot issues while he slyly does some very interesting things. Showmanship is his special talent and he is using it to his greatest advantage.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Beginners luck is a Real Thing...much likened to the Placebo effect because you have yet to realize that the odds are against you...laughing

    I don't know about fat, old is our reality but I am sure you ain't turning ugly!...listen to your gorgeous wife...this time she's right.
    You Can't have a knack for getting ugly...that's MY knack!...laughing even more...
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  • Posted by 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I have knack for growing old fat and ugly and my gorgeous wife of forty years still calls me her handsome man. The track was just a fun summer outing. I was lucky though , picking 3 winners out of six races and eight picks . I picked 2 horses in two races.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Didn't know you were into the horses...My Dad was into it as a hobby, when horse racing became extinct in New England...he went to the dogs while in retirement...was a lot closer, Plainfield Ct as opposed to upstate NY.
    He had a nack and paid CASH for several new cars but never bet the farm...just a small time hobby.
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