Fairytale ending? it's either full blown capitalism or totalitarianism. Want another opinion? Read Von Mises.

You cry flaws but offer nothing. What have you written besides unfounded criticism? I never claimed Atlas Shrugged was divinity. It's much better than that.

you are correct. your opinion has flaws but they have been adequately addressed and as Ayn Rand said:" People who deny reason are unreachable, leave them alone."

I would say you are on the right track but in time you will discover the errors of the details of your argument. Your argument also has holes big enough to jump through.

Just to address a few small points as I'm not going to spend the vast amount of time it would take to fully respond as I have already done so previously.

You are wrong about Odumbocare, it had nothing to do with socialism, it's all about fascism. The insurance companies now own the lives of those presupposed to medical treatment and that has absolutely nothing to do with health. It's all about being able to extract as much from you as possible before medicine kills you. The average cancer patient is worth $50,000 a year and their goal is to string that out for five years for a nice sum of $250,000. There are now more providers involved in cancer treatment than there are patients.

The dichotomy of this is cancer is nothing more than an immune system deficiency. All that is required to cure cancer is a drastic change in diet to all organic live raw vegetables especially leafy green ones. Check out Charlotte Gerson which has a clinic in Tijuana Mexico because you're not allowed to cure people in the US.

According to a growing consenus, 80% of the worlds population are but sheeple waiting for the next set of instructions. They don't really buy houses, they have no understanding of property. Real estate is not property. The meat of the argument is in the details. Property and real estate are at odds.

The Chinese are our friends. They may speak a different language, have different cultures and values but they other than that they are no different than us. They have the same desires and dreams we do. You are confusing government with people, could be a fatal error. I have also found the Iranian people to be remarkable people and their food is absolutely delicious and much healthier than the American crap we eat.

And in closing Manduro is not the problem, he is but the symptom. Should he be assassinated, a new talking head will rise in his stead like he did with ole Hugo before him. As to the 80-20 rule, it does not apply to Venezuela as the 20 part has either died or escaped.

Collectivism always has the elite on top who enjoy the fruits of the worker bees whether it’s socialism, fascism, or communism. Today we have basically fascism, with private ownership but substantial public control

I agree the collectivists want complete control NOW, not later. Nobsma gave them control over medical care, but it crashed on takeoff

I agree Obama caused the first battle of the American civil war #2- peacefully thru election. The left was blindsided and are in a rage still , trying to U.N. elect trump. They will pull out all the stops to unseat him or at least distract him from doing anything

2). In this economy much wealth is stored in us follar denominated financial instruments which are essentially worthless. We work and get paid in paper and save that in banks. Real estate and other things are hard assets, but most people are a payment away from losing them to the lender banks

People who have put their wages into 401k will discover that wealth is gone when they try to use it.

Best thing to do is buy physical gold and silver coins and be quiet about it

I read that China has trillions of US dollars in treasuries. I wasn’t aware they bought up so much real estate

They are smart cookies and should trade $$ for something tangible before we shut the door on trading in treasuries.

China is not our friend, and their teeth are bared - we should not hide in the sand any more. Tariffs would have to be over 100% to have a measurable effect. I can tell u that our small company is switching from China to Taiwan to escape the coming tariffs- as fast as we can. Chins may already be big enough to live off its domestic market

It’s going to be increasingly more difficult to keep our financial system afloat- that’s for sure. I think they can print more money yet before that won’t work anymore

In Venezuela they have reached the end with Maduro. No more stretching the rubber band. Madura will be killed snd capitalism will be allowed to give a boost to the economy while the socialists prepare the next downfall

Opinion is just that, opinion. Sort of like a-holes, everybody's got one and it stinks, some more than others.

You throw an argument out there based solely on an opinion where you are trying to compare a contrast. Atlas Shrugged is based on what was trending with a fairy tail ending. 1984 was a fairy tail then is manifesting into reality.

Well every body is entitled to an opinion no matter how flawed. But that does not mean that anyone else must accept it.

A cannot equal B at the same time in the same context. History ignored is history repeated. Time periods are very important as an action in a vacuum has no definition. It is the atmosphere that defines the action giving it meaning.

It really is immaterial if she wrote the novel forwards, backwards or sideways. I'm talking about context, her motivation for writing the novel. If one studies her actual life and has any knowledge of what was occurring in her world at that time, her motivation becomes very clear.

How can there be doubt that The Fountainhead represented her life in Russia. If you examine the characters in Atlas Shrugged, this was influenced very heavily by her American experience.

Your argument also tends to ignore what effect the 1930s had on her psyche, socialism and communism all over the place also instills she was writing from fear, that's why all her heroes need to disappear where it's safe.

She had a philosophy degree from Russia and novels was one of the ways she spread her philosophy. In the world of philosophy she was very strong in the metaphysical and the epistemological branches but had conflicts in the ethics branch that so much stands out in her novels, both of them. Seems to be a standard trait of philosophers. If in doubt, read John Locke.

Yes long winded. She could have made those same arguments in half the time and actually increased the clarity. 12 years, 100 pages a year and one needs to wonder, how many times did she keep writing each one of those, just couldn't stop writing. Your argument treats her like a robot but this woman was real. She like everybody else had her little idiosyncrasies but that is what made her real.

But do you know why he did it? I'll give you a hint, it had to do with England, specifically the City of London and Israel, Bretton Woods was the payoff.

For China, it wasn't just money. Arms and intelligence was a part of the package.

In 1944 the US was the hero. The military industrial complex was selling arms to both the British and the Russians while senior Bush's father Preston was busy providing huge loans to Hitler so the banks were getting rich and after Russia lost 20 million souls to the war, here comes the shiny heroes to take all the credit while at the same time mopping up the Pacific Rim/Asia theater. As the only industrial nation left, this country prospered like no other ever as our banks, of course backed by City of London, House of Rothschild needs their cut as they brokered this whole deal, cleaned up.

Who am I? The luckiest hillbilly ever born in West Virginia. I've had a life that just can't be comprehended beforehand. It has been an exciting ride. I'm the guy that bought a lot of bear for these two state troopers that as their tongues got lose let us know they were unhappy with their current assignment which was to procure hookers for the governor, slick willie. I'm the guy that could consume two books flying coast to coast and five to Bangkok, my favorite city in the world, but not any more. A guy that has read tens of thousands of books. I used to design communications networks for voice and data where my largest customers where banks, airlines and wall street. A guy that had the pleasure of seeing $50 million in freshly signed bearer bonds sitting on a table in front of me at a Boston Bank. But more importantly a guy capable of intense research to be able to find the missing links to complete the puzzle.

You evidently haven't comprehended Galt's speech. It is a philosophical treatise presented in a dramatic format. Picking out scenes out of context doesn't make the novel less, only your critique unconvincing.

1984 is superficial compared to Atlas Shrugged. It deals with individualism versus the state but doesn't point out the fallacies of mysticism and altruism. It doesn't challenge centuries of ideas that have been followed and failed. It doesn't point out how to counteract these bad ideas. Atlas Shrugged deals with these failed ideas and points to a more rational future for man. To even put 1984 in the same category of literature is a stretch.

Your argument from intimidation which Ayn Rand identified doesn't work. I am neither naive or uninformed. Nor do I need a wake- up call. That is attacking the person instead of the issue called ad hominem ( a logical fallacy). Quit trying to intimidate with what you think is your superior insight as it is only revealing what you refuse to be aware of.

The only thing your screed reveals is a lack of understanding of Atlas Shrugged. Your reference to time periods is irrelevant. She dealt in fundamentals that transcend any given time. If you read her Art of Fictions writing you would know that writing backward ( knowing the ending ) is a technique for clarity. Those are not "long-winded" speeches but a clarification of the principles she is elucidating.

Sad to break your bubble but I already knew that.

While in the US business is war, China's business is business. But to further break your bubble, did you know that China has a Rothschild central bank. There are only three countries that don't, North Korea, Cuba and Iran and that is quickly heading to one.

But to throw you a bone I don't do quantum physics nor do I desire to.

But to perhaps take it back, did you know that the US financed Mao for the communist takeover of China?

Interesting but I believe the argument is a little short sighted, to wit:

To say there is a collectivist mentality would be to ignore the fact that at best collectivism is a form but in my opinion is but a part of a single form that is circular in nature.

Collectivism however does have two different and opposing subforms. These subforms are defined by whom will be the controllers and beneficiaries, the fascist or the communist.

Be it as it may as to the subforms, they are not looking for delay, they are looking for completion. The delay is because factors are stacking up against them. Another Odumbo failure as he was supposed to bring alignment but instead brought a vast awakening.

The delay is their trying to keep this thing from falling off the cliff before realignment cna be reestablished. King Donald is also playing a big part in this but I not going to go there in this post.

In my opinion man has two ears and two eyes but only one mouth for a reason. He was to meant to spend time observing and listening before engaging. To this point I have spent considerable time doing just that to arrive at engagement, but there is not enough time to know all so I am always open to debate. So let me address your points:

1) What of the judicial? They have over time usurped the whole process by legislating from the bench, refusing to hear arguments detrimental to their position, and consistently side with the government against the people. One side of congress is replaced (including reconfirmed) every two years, the president every four years (but no more than twice), the other side of congress every six years. But the judicial are appointed, for life. While this is not the absolute depravity of their usurpation, it is definitely representative of it: Nat. Fedn. of Indep. Business v. Sebelius better know as the Obamacare decision.

2) such a huge category in such a small statement is hard to address. What wealth was expropriated to pay for mistakes?

3) The banks are the collectivist. What they have has nothing to do with wealth, it's all about control, power. Real wealth is based on property, hard assets. Currency is not hard assets. In both common and statute law there is a cause of action called conversion wherein somebody has converted your property to their use without your permission. Currency can not be converted. But what you are describing is a misunderstanding of banking. Deposits are loans to the banks. Safe deposit boxes are deposits. When someone makes a deposit, a bank must carry that as a liability, not an asset.

4) Many things have been done before but the question is why? Definitely has nothing to do with freedom but it's all about control.

5) Ah, Bretton Woods were the bankers found a way to get their hands on all that gold sitting in Kentucky for only $35 an ounce. In 1944 the price of gold was $36.25 and in 1971 was $44.60. When Johnson realized there was not enough gold to continue and closed that window, gold rose to $63.84 in 1972 and 106.48 in 1973, never to see those prices again. As a side note, it was stolen from the people in 1933 at $20.67 per troy ounce. In 1934 after the theft gold was set at $35 and ounce.

6) Inflation is a hidden tax demonstrating that currency really has no value. The purchasing power of a 1913 dollar would be $0.04 today. That is why savings are never a good idea over the long term.

7) National debt, the likes of which without it there would be no currency other than coins and modern coins have no real value, that was stripped out since 1965. Our economy is based on reserve banking where money only comes into existence when borrowed at interest.

8) China is but the current end of a long line used to destroy nations and make the bankers rich, Before them it was India and there was Mexico, Taiwan, Japan and a host of others. China has used their bounty to trade for hard assets, real estate. In addition to other places, they own a huge chunk of New York city.

9) Yuan. China has nothing at all to do with that. China is now buying oil for yuan that is convertible to gold on demand. This is a direct attack on the US as the dollars value is oil. A country buys dollars then they can buy oil. The Saudis (original contract for petro dollars) then invested those dollars in the US and the US would bomb anybody that upset the camel jockies. Or they could just buy weapons of mass destruction and terrorize all their neighbors except Israel as Israel was out of bounds.

10) Are you serious? China has not been sitting idly by. They have been spreading that wealth all around and have almost purchased all the resources in Africa using those worthless dollars. They own a substantial part of the real estate on the west coast and elsewhere. They now own quite a number of the building in New York and other major cities. They have converted 100s of billions of not trillions of worthless pieces of paper into hard assets. They almost own all of Hollywood.

11) China only provides the labor. It is our along with our "partners" that have built the factories in China. The US factories are trash with old technology because these American business have bought modern capital equipment for use in China. The Chinese being the thugs they are own 51% of all these factories. The worse part is they now are co-owners of all this technology without spending a dime.

To use your analogy, the chicken may come home but there is no roost, all that has been moved elsewhere.

Methinks you are not giving enough credit to the collectivist mentality when it comes to stretching the rubber band. Consider:
1) any action is on the table with proper legislative and executive authorities

2) there is a lot of wealth to be expropriated in the USA to pay for the mistakes of the past

3) most of the liquid wealth in easily controlled by banking, which is under the control of the collectivists- limitations on trades, account withdrawals. ( check out cypress)

4) prices and wages have been controlled before, as well as goods rationed to prevent hoarding

5) ability if foreign countries to get value for the dollars they hold has been controlled before ( 1971 abandonment of the gold standard with Nixon

6) we have had annual inflation up to about 17% about 40 yrs ago, meaning they can print a lot more money to solve issues

7) our problems today are national debt and money printing problems which we have had during ww2 and Vietnam war. Inflation has paid off those debts already thru depreciation of the $$ by 90+%

8) China traded a lot of worthless paper for a bunch of goods that brought their country out of the third world. They want to overtake USA as the economic power and they will with their billions of people

9) the day they are willing to devalue all that paper money by upvaluinh their Juan, we will know they are strong enough to float free of us. Chinese prices will rise, our imports will drop, and our prices will skyrocket.

10). The Chinese might try and spend that money in the USA, but will be met with investment restrictions. They could try diversifying their holdings of US dollars thru other currencies if others are stupid enough to. It the dollars from them

11) USA has hidden its problems by trading our independence for the lure of unrealistically cheap Chinese stuff. THAT chicken will come home to roost

Fully aware, that and more.

Russia has always had the resources and much more. There problem has been communism since 1917. Now they are a nation with more freedoms than us by a long short that is unless you are a sexual deviate in any manner.

China not so much so, still that communist problem. So long as everyone toes the line and brings money into China all is good. But they are not so rich in resources because most of the country is a desert, a cold desert. I climbed the wall one November so I can testify just how cold (there on a business trip manning a booth at a computer trade show in the early 90s. Anyhow, that is immaterial as they have secured supplies all over Asia and Africa. While our business has been war, their business has been business and they have been busier than we have. We bombed everything, they bought everything,

I was in Vietnam and heard of the tunnels. I saw a documentary on those tunnels after the war so I have no doubts whatsoever..

China and Russia will stand while the rest of the world crumbles around them. That is why the militia and guns are so important. The world has always said not to invade this country because there is a gun behind every rock. Afghanistan and Vietnam proved many times over the effectiveness of guerilla warfare over conventional armies.

I can't buy the part about the Chinese and banks. They have always been funny about their currency. But I do know they have used their huge store of the trash currency from us to buy America, not junk but land and buildings. Why do you think housing in California is so expensive? The Chinese ran it up.
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While I can respect your opinion I can't agree with the argument.

First Ayn Rand was 12 when this thing called the Russian Revolution happened. She experienced the whole communist wave until some 8 years later when she came to the US.

The Fountainhead was absolutely her finest work. This was a labor of love based on her life experiences. Her hero may have been a man but it was really all about her. Her individual struggle, the obstacles in her way but staying true to a driving desire, to be free. Here is a biography that I think shows the parallels: http://aynrandlexicon.com/about-ayn-r....

But Atlas Shrugged took 12 years to write until release in 1957 which means she started in 1945, the end of WWII. And oh boy where things going on. She had already experienced the "New Deal". In my opinion she wrote that book out of fear. She saw the hand writing on the wall and wanted all to see. She had already been through that experience and knew the ending.She had already vented about the Rockefeller's, the Vanderbilt's, the Morgan's in The Fountainhead.

But she saw an even worse dilemma with the marriage of the government and the corporation coupled with the rise of the bureaucrats. That was what all those long winded value speeches were all about.

Hank Reardon was the atypical businessman of the period especially when saddled with a family like that, no love there. So his only love was "his" business. Blind to all but his surrogate child, that is why he was the last to leave. Hank was a man conflicted, he did not understand what was going on around him even when someone kept pointing to the path.

But Ayn Rand already knew the ending before she knew she would write the book, she had been there.

That in no way compares to "1984". In 1948 when the book was written, television was in it's infancy and was only on the air a few hours a day but not on weekends. High tech communications consisted of a rotary dial phone most likely on a party line.

This book could almost be used as a history book of our times. How could Wells have conjured up some of those details so accurately?

While The Fountainhead would be my favorite from Rand, 1985 is in it's own world. I'm not saying it's the best just there is nothing else like it.