The state of Jefferson (which was a coastal state) is not part of the current proposal. (It was in the previous 6 state proposal that failed to get support.) San Francisco Bay Area liberals would dominate the current proposed state of Northern CA. "Northern California, which would encompass everything from Santa Cruz north, including the Bay Area and Sacramento."
You're right, Temlakos, it probably could have been a valid option for the Gulch, but I'm sure the liberals fought it because it could have demonstrated the advantages of liberty and free markets.

Well, the Leftists have been EXCELLENT with their marketing. I have older liberal friends who NEVER KNEW that people are being asked to use Preferred Pronouns... That Michigan State RAs introduce themselves on video, indicating their preferred pronouns.

They were shocked. These are liberal democrats. The gift of "Yes we can" is that it means different thing to different people.
Now, these liberals are looters, and believe in taking from others to redistribute to the needed. Don't get me wrong.

But they are NOT TARGETED nor are they receiving the TRANSGENDER advertising message. The left has ALL the marketing geniuses working for them. these people have heard of the "Bathroom" issue. But not the deeper stuff...

The ENTIRE thing on Code Words and Dog Whistles is BECAUSE the LEFT wraps things like this, so that ONCE an older LIberal hears the coded wording... They stop listening to the details, and just agree with the position. It would imposition someone who had a sex change to use the wrong bathroom. EVEN WHEN THAT is not the story.

They play to the LIE that they CARE THE MOST for others.
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For me, now I realize the difference, and what causes Dave Rubin and others to wake up. When they start seeing ALL of the messages, and digging into the details, they realize it is a mosaic of lies/deceit... Same people believe the 97% of women make less money for the exact same work... (that message fits their beliefs)...

I now reduce my attempts to convert them to just equalizing the message. Like:
- Would it be fair to ask a Muslim Bakery to write Mohammed was Pedophile on a cake?
- Or to ask them to put a picture of Mohammed on the cake?
- AND SUE THEM for saying no?
- How is that more caring to demand, not service, but a CUSTOM CAKE.

See, many of these people believe that the Baker refused to sell them a CAKE off the shelf.
They did NOT read the details that this was about creating an artistic expression.

And the LEFT goes a long way to make sure they never hear those words.

Let that sink in... And pay attention to it. It will amaze you how the programming works.

Also, Watch someone like Obama, Bill Clinton, or Trump when they speak... But turn off the volume.
No Subtitles. Watch them as people. You will instantly notice who is PRACTICED and ACTING vs who is REAL.

Trade it for Baja California. They should like that

Abaco may be right, the courts have become the tools of the deep state to forward their agenda, so if they want to keep it as one giant cess pool, they could. Also, it then goes to the congress who have to approve it, and that seems unlikely as Republicrats see 6 Dumbocrap senators where they have 2.

The progressive, leftist establishment relies heavily on there being one big California. Therefore, it won't be allowed to be split up. And, in California the courts run the show. In many, many cases they are teamed with special interests (never conservative) and propositions get shut down right after they get passed. This is one of the main reasons I don't vote. It's a fraud.

Read it.
I think it was written pre-70's. He had long range vision.