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The first shoe drops for the new "Scouts BSA"

Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 11 months ago to News
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I'm not surprised by the announcement, but the quick action was a bit unexpected. The Mormons comprise nearly 60% of the participants in Boy Scouts and a huge proportion of their leaders and donor base. I expect the Baptists to quickly follow suit. Within two years (as I predicted), the BSA will be a non-entity - much to the detriment of young men and societies in the United States.
SOURCE URL: https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/09/mormon-church-severs-ties-with-boy-scouts-after-105-years


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  • Posted by fosterj717 5 years, 11 months ago
    It is a shame what is being done to the BSA! Destroy organizations such as this that have been one of the cornerstones of our country and you will end up with the shallow shell we are now becoming. One by one the Progressives are dismantling these foundation stones. The BSA helped generations build character, pride and that magical product called "Self Esteem". What the schools are giving us now in that category are generations of young people who have assumed the mantle of "Snow Flakes" with a false sense of "Self Esteem" however with an over abundance of "Entitlement"!

    The BSA went a long way to molding generations of young men who learned character, self-reliance and EARNED "Self Esteem". This is the way it was and the way it should be but alas, those days are coming to an end!

    What we see now is an idiotic and counter-productive onslaught by Progressives attempting to destroy everything that Scouting stood for. This is also a harbinger in that without what scouts learned through generations who participated, the nation will soon be a collection of mindless, cattle all moving in the direction their overlords want them to go. They are not being taught right from wrong (too judgemental), they are not being taught morality (instead they learn Moral Relativism", in short they are learning the antithesis of scouting. This change is our downfall whereas we are placing our trust in failing education system. Perhaps that system is what should be gutted and destroyed instead of Scouting! For what its worth!
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 11 months ago
      Correct on all accounts. Having served as Scoutmaster for 2-1/2 years, the values instilled in these young men at such an impressionable time can make or break them. I've never seen an Eagle Scout yet who didn't learn hard work, discipline, perseverance, and many more positive qualities - including how to deal with things when they don't go the way you want. The principles Baden Powell based the BSA on were ones that turned young men into leaders and men of honor and dignity - it is no wonder that the leftists wanted to tear it down.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 5 years, 11 months ago
    What astonished me was that the President of BSA beamed that this was wonderful. I can almost hear Karl Marx revisiting Reagan: Uncle Sam, tear down this culture.

    Too bad I can't post a photo. One, with a pretty 14-ish girl and a Boy Scouts logo reads, above: "We had a great time going camping." Below, it reads: "And now I'm going to be a mommy."

    But it's not all bad news. Maybe the Boy Scouts will morph into the LGBTQ Rangers. Lock yer doors.
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  • Posted by exceller 5 years, 11 months ago
    A systematic war by the left on the values of America. Look around how the old values are disappearing chunk by chunk. People don't pay much attention because it is done "under the radar" so to speak. By the time they'll realize what has been happening all the freedom and values will be gone, replaced by a PC state and dictatorial powers.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 5 years, 11 months ago
    The Libs don't care about girls being in the boy scouts. They just want someway to get rid of this organization because it is male. And they are doing just that. It was their aim all along.
    My son loved scouting and so did my husband who received The Order of the Arrow.
    So very sad.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 5 years, 11 months ago
      I think you hit the nail right on the head, Suzanne43. The left's feminization and subjugation of the American heterosexual male requires the systematic destruction of anything that may offer him a sense of pride, completeness, or autonomy as a man. Hank Reardens and John Galts are not to be allowed.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 5 years, 11 months ago
    I am moved almost to tears. I was a boy scout, I was a cub scout leader, my son was a scoutmaster, my grandson is an eagle scout. It seems that the world is being taken over by idiots.
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  • Posted by Storo 5 years, 11 months ago
    I was a Boy Scout many years ago, and have supported Scouting ever since - until now. I sent them a letter saying I will no longer support them
    In these days of political correctness, it is not surprising that organizations like the Scouts, that used to promote the ideals of God, Country, and the Scout Oath. are under great pressure from the Left and the feminists to set these values aside and trade them in for “inclusiveness”. Frankly, it’s disgusting.
    Just like white males in general have been targeted for destruction, so to are groups like the Scouts. What amazes me is how quickly the BSA leadership has caved. Knowing the male culture of scouting at the troop level, I find it difficult to believe that the the changes announced are supported by the rank and file. I’m also surprised that there has not been a general revolt by Scout troops across the country. That’s the only real way to save Scouting as we have known it, but that does not appear to be likely. And without something like a revolt I must agree that the Boy Scouts Of America will very soon be assigned to the dustbin of history. And I also say good for the Mormons for taking a stand. Scout troop leaders everywhere should do the same.
    So sad. Another great institution down the tubes.
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  • Posted by Andy 5 years, 11 months ago
    Mormons supported them for 105 years. Scouts will be irrelevant way sooner than another 105 years. Scouts are based on male identity. This liberal idea of everyone following their own way and ignoring their groups is self-destructive. Institutions that suppress people wanting to do things outside their group, like girls doing boys things, allowed man to grow from small tribes into huge nations. Efforts to ignore basic biological group membership are bound to fail. It's just a question of how soon.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 11 months ago
    Yeh, IF the gov't lets them back out. Remember, we are no longer a free country. My youngest son loved scouts and I volunteered in whatever part of the scouting program he was in. I did merit badge clinics, I was on the scout counsel, I was a den mother, etc. My son made Eagle Scout. We are Mormons, but I am inactive right now. This is heart-breaking to me.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 11 months ago
    60% ? the article states :Mormon boys who will be leaving the Boy Scouts represent approximately 18.5 percent of the 2.3 million young boys enrolled in the organization. my math indicates 425,500 apprx
    Just to be clear I think that is a huge loss. They will start their own organization and that will be that.
    The boy scouts Board have been squeezed from both sides now.
    It is all about sex first the gay inclusion now
    girls can be boys too. You can't even argue this stuff you can't argue with stupid they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. May they NEVER be prepared!
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  • Posted by $ jlc 5 years, 11 months ago
    Huh?!!!

    "The test should be: if you can't stand and piss on a tree trunk, you can't be a Boy Scout"

    As I have pointed out before, the arguments presented here in the Gulch against girls in the Scouts are reminiscent of the same hackneyed arguments that were rolled out against women in professions, education, military, firefighting, etc

    Argument against coeducation (https://www.catholicity.com/mccloskey...)
    “What is at the heart of the continuing social decline? What has spawned such high levels of contraception, divorce, child abuse, promiscuity, abortion, homosexual behavior, substance abuse, violent crime, pornography and a general degradation in what refers to the arts? … The secularist ideology of the Enlightenment, with its concepts of the inevitability of progress, the goodness of human nature in the primitive state, equality of condition as the goal of morality, etc., and its philosophical offspring in the works of Freud, Marx, Darwin, and Mill, has been influential in shaping the moral behavior of society. And, quite simply, men no longer seek and obey the natural law. The natural law, among many other postulates, leads the rational man to acknowledge the radical differences that exist between men and women and to take those differences into account in the functioning of society.”

    “… I believe that coeducation has been and continues to be a serious mistake because it generally ignores the radical differences between men and women in their biology, physiology, psychology, and in their proper roles in contemporary society and the family. I believe that these differences are good, that they are part of God's plan for the human race, and that by tampering with them over the course of decades we have brought the present state of society upon ourselves.”

    Argument against women physicians http://beckerexhibits.wustl.edu/mowih...
    “As a male physician wrote in 1867, “The opposition of medical men (to woman doctors) arises because this movement outrages all their enlightened estimate of what a woman should be. It shocks their refined appreciation of woman to see her follow a profession with repulsive details at every step.” “

    I do not want to be part of a plan where I am taught how to push cloves into a lemon whilst boys are taught how to make a campfire. Equal but separate means unequal.

    Jan
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    • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 11 months ago
      Can you start a new group?
      Is there a big enough market for it?
      Why is it up to the boys group to change for you? Why are you not asking the girls group to change for you, too?
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      • Posted by $ jlc 5 years, 11 months ago
        Girls group changing too is fine - they should. Has anyone asked them to? Considering that there seems to be a downward trend in the number of people who want to do anything physical, my guess that a single "Scouts" group would probably suffice.

        Jan
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 11 months ago
      Having been a Boy Scout who earned my Eagle Scout and served as Scoutmaster, I don't have any problems with someone creating a group for girls with the same opportunities. If you can get girls to pay the money to go camping and work on merit badges - good for you.

      That aside, you are missing out on the primary focus of Baden Powell's vision: how to train young men to be honorable fathers and leaders. The Boy Scouts organization was an inherently sexist organization because it crafted its vision to the fact that the needs of young men and young women are different. They are different psychologically, physiologically, emotionally, and all other ways. That's simple fact. (I will also mention that I'm the father of nine girls, so I speak from loads of experience). Did my girls go camping? Yup - every summer. Do they work on projects and activities geared around helping them develop positive qualities? Absolutely. But they aren't trying to learn to be men.
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