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China’s ‘Social Credit System’ Is a Totalitarian’s Dream Come True. Are We Far Behind?

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 12 months ago to Government
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I would argue, We've already started.
Deny man made global warming...go to jail in California, yet pass on aids and only receive a fine, criminal illegal alien?...you get a job in the california government...isn't that a social score?

Have a more factual point of view, know a bit of real history, have common sense...you not allowed to speak in our nations colleges...social score?
Want a wall at the nations border...your deemed a racist...social score?
Express an opposing view at work? get fired...social score?
There are many more examples.

"China’s rating scheme is the latest and most expansive effort by central planners to use government to encourage good behavior—or, rather, behavior deemed positive by the Communist Party. The system, which relies on vast amounts of digital data, has received scant attention in the United States."

Beware!...Black Mirror Nose Dive is with us.
SOURCE URL: http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/chinas-social-credit-system-totalitarians-dream-come-true-are-we-far-behind


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  • Posted by Fergo44 5 years, 11 months ago
    One doesn't have to go too far to witness this in real time. Nearby, in Venezuela, the socialist/communist government has a list of all those who voted against Chavez first, then against Maduro, the actual "president". As such, these people are the one enduring the lack of jobs, food, simple necessities such as toilet paper, medicine, medical care, shelter, crime protection, etc., ... and actually migrating to other countries. Those backing the government, including the military, get a special plastic card that gives them access to government-funded supermarkets, hospital/clinics, doctors, drugstores... even recreation facilities. Their version of our social security ID determines the kind of life one can have... it can be a real life or death situation, for some. If those running the government know that an individual is or could become a danger to them, they know where to find him/her and make him disappear. It's happening...
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 5 years, 12 months ago
    A few years ago I was in a "private" facebook group trying to fight a law the establishment wanted. I saw things happening that CLEARLY pointed to some spooky gov/industry shinanigans. We were obviously being watched very closely. I got out after that. No social media for me. In short: Not only are you vulnerable to government in facebook. You are also vulnerable to special interests.
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  • Posted by chad 5 years, 11 months ago
    China's social credit system is the test run for what will be seen here. The NSA is not building the largest computer storage system in the world for Utah just because they might one day take a look at something. In the past slavery was very expensive because overseers had to be employed to watch the slaves. Now a program can be written and track everything that is said or done, every dime that is spent to make it possible for the slave masters to determine when a slave needs to be brought back in line. It is also much easier for the slave masters who do not have to find the slave to punish them, just turn off their digital access or even restrict it remotely with no recourse for the slave except to start behaving more acceptably for the states requirements.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 11 months ago
    The Democratic Party certainly operates this way. Hillary had the highest score so she got all the superdelegate votes in the Primaries. If you're a Senator or Congressperson with a good rating, you get financing from the DNC to run for re-election.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 5 years, 11 months ago
      No, a party vetting its own candidates is not anything like a system to suppress or punish dissent in an entire country.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 11 months ago
        I think you missed what the article was about: it was a system which awarded "merit" based on opinions which conformed to the ruling class' biases rather than overt punishment of nay-sayers. The DNC's nomination process is a very good example of this. Hillary was losing to Bernie in the popular vote based on delegates. But the DNC allows for the biases of the ruling class (aka the "super" delegates) to sway and control the entire process.

        The other example was Senator Jon Tester of Montana. He voted against a few of the Democrats' pet projects back when Obama was in office and the DNC punished him by pulling their funding from his re-election campaign. You don't see him on the list of members of Congress any more.
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        • Posted by $ jdg 5 years, 11 months ago
          My point still stands. The Democratic party is the DNC's legitimate propertyy, in a sense in which the people of China are not the government's property.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 11 months ago
            I think China would disagree with you. The Chinese people do not have the same understanding or respect for individual rights that you or I have. Their history and culture for thousands of years has been of rule by god/emperors, warlords, and Communist dictators who live in a world apart from the common serfs. They could have women raped, men tortured or killed, and children taken as slaves at a whim. The "middle class" hasn't existed in China until very recently as a result of certain acceptance of crony capitalism, but the middle class is still very much subject to the whims of the rulers, examples being mandatory time in the armed services, the (now-revoked) "one child" policy, bribes and kickbacks from business owners to government for special treatment, bribes to local government leaders, and the totalitarian control of the Communist Party in China.

            There is nothing in China resembling the kind of freedom Americans take for granted. My father speaks fluent Mandarin Chinese and does business there, so I get first-hand stories of his blocked internet at the hotels, the bribes his Chinese business partners pay to the government for permits, the working conditions of factory workers, the culture, etc. Their culture is still that of basic feudalism - owners (government/Communist Party rulers) and serfs (common workers).

            You're welcome to believe what you want about the DNC. To me, it is the epitome of cronyism in the United States and the exact kind of system the article was explaining: rewarding those who tow the Party line the best. We can see it in Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, Hillary Clinton, and many others. It is irrelevant that it is a "private" organization. So is the Communist Party in China! The question is how these organizations choose to wield their power to preserve themselves: do they do it based on a real meritocracy or a contrived one?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 11 months ago
    So maybe now me dino has obtained some insight about what may include the progressive endgame.
    It is to be 1984 with a smiley face save for when it is time when a rare failure to communicate calls for a frowny face.
    It should be less expensive for the common good should the elite of the people's republic remind its citizenry from time to time that no one wants to meet Mr. Frowny Face.
    Not ever
    So just keep an eye on your rating score, y'all, share your bliss and have a~happy! happy! happy!~wonderful day.
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  • Posted by $ 5 years, 12 months ago
    "[“Imagine a world where an authoritarian government monitors everything you do, amasses huge amounts of data on almost every interaction you make]"

    Heck...we are already there...hey China, like always, you copy US.
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