The Good Old Days Of Budgeting Are Dead And Gone

Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 1 month ago to Government
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Back in the good ole' days before Big Brother (our "representative" career politicians aka The Swamp) went and broke what's supposed to be We The People's government, here is how the legislative process worked, according to the linked article~

Freakin' Step 1
Congress approved a budget, a blueprint of how
money would be spent during the year.

Freakin' Step 2
Congress authorized spending on existing programs whose authorization had run out.

Freakin' Step 3
Congress approved 11 or 12 appropriation bills at one time, with appropriators carefully considering a reasonable level of spending for each category, members voting up and down on each one, approving those they agree with, opposing those they thought spent too much or too little.

Yep, those were the good ole' days. Today?
Budget? What's a budget? We don't need no stinkin' budget!
Hey, guys, for this here Omnibus Bill, let's float a loan to get DACA off the ground. What? You Jackass Partiers don't want no stinkin' DACA either? Why?
Ah, leverage to keep the wall from being built while you can keep calling Trump a racist. Okay.
Oh, guess y'all don't know there's a dinky so-called "down payment" on the wall in the bill.
Oh, you haven't read the bill. That's okay too.
Few if any of us have read all 2,000 pages with that threat deadline of a government shutdown looming over our swampy career politician heads..
Yeah, yeah, yeah! Let's hurry, hurry, hurry! Let's hurry up and pass this big bill to see what's in it .
Wheee! Hell's bells shotgun shells! Let's all hitch a ride on this Brave New World Banana Republic Express!
Yeehaw! Ha! Ha! Ha!
I don't give a damn! My earmarks are in a jam!
Why think debit when we've got credit?
How can we crash and burn, baby? How can we crash and burn? We're the elite with nuthin' left to learn!
Wheeeeeeeeee!
Cray havoc and let loose the national debt!
Thar she blows!~http://www.usdebtclock.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3edi2...

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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    but thieves are only interested in booty when it is offered. they would only be allies if he offered more and more booty
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The parsimoniousness trait of a Scot is an attribute and the Jewish trait of sound banking principals and reluctance to over pay produce a good mix of oversight if that's what you infer.
    Penny Pinchers and Howberg inc.

    the verisimilitude from the OMB
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 1 month ago
    Budgeting should be taken out of he hands of congress who have proven that they cannot handle the responseability. It should be turned over to a firm of accountants who have proven their ability to keep spending within sane limits. Their word should be law. The older the accountants, the better.At present there are no people in Washington who know how to control spending. Ony Scots and Jews are allowed to be the accountants. I know, I'll be castigated for that, but at the bottom of every legend often lies the truth.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, term. It could be that Trump is gathering allies that he needs for the rooting out of the festering cancer in DC. The defense "industry" make very potent allies and fearsome enemies. Can Trump convince them that there is more profit and the opportunity to act ethically as his ally?
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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 1 month ago
    Since every dollar in a fiat currency system is borrowed there is no way to balance the budge or pay off the debt. If the debt was paid off there would be no currency in circulation and the interest would still be owed. A fiat currency system allows the payment of the interest (all money collected in taxation) and the only way to spend on even current programs is to then borrow (deficit spend) more to keep the Ponzi scheme going, buying votes and pretending to run the economy for the benefit of the individual citizen.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    As I thought. Politicians on both sides just vote YES for their own stuff, and in the end ALL of the spending bills pretty much get approved as "compromises"
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Sure they would if they could just veto the spending that the 'other' party wanted. There are the things the Republicans want to spend money on and the things the Democrats want to spend money on. They 'compromise' by spending money on both of them.

    When the Republicans, as part of Gingrich's revolution gave Clinton a line item veto, he got out his pen and started using it. One article I found had him canceling 38 military construction projects for a total of $287 million. It was challenged and the Supreme Court 6-3 said that it was unconstitutional.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Do believe that's what the Founding Fathers had in mind.
    The notion of a self-serving lifelong career politician who retires with a hefty pension would be repugnant to them.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 1 month ago
    I have been long considering what could be done to control the spending and I would suggest the following:

    1. The total spending amount is capped at the total tax receipts from two years prior - including debt service and interest payments on debt. (No deficit spending is allowed.)
    2. Every bill put before Congress must be read out loud in its entirety on the Floor in open/public session before it may be voted on. (No more 2000-page spending bills laden with pork.)
    3. Though the salaries of members of Congress (House and Senate) are set by Constitutional amendment, those salaries and the salaries and benefits of all members of Congress and their respective Staffs are paid for and subject to audit by their individual States. Also included in this are all provision for living arrangements, travel, offices, supplies, etc.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 1 month ago
    I naively don't understand why we can't bring back "the super committee" to come up with a plan and a fiscal cliff of spending cuts and tax increases if the bipartisan committee can't come to a deal.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Definitely needs to happen. ONE term, and thats IT. No re-elections. You get elected to do certain things and you have one term to do it, or not.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    No politician who wants to be re-elected would veto any increase in government spending.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 1 month ago
    Trump is there to slow down socialis, in the usa for a few years. That said, he didnt get repeal Obamacare, he just tried to repeal and replace it. Of course that failed- why would he come up with a replacement government run plan that would work any better than Obama's ?

    He should havent signed a spending bill that required deficit spending, period. The whole idea that it gave money to more military power (which we only need to show off and exert influence in places we shouldnt be in anyway) is faulty, especially when it also gives huge amounts to domestic giveaways the liberals want. No one is really talking about how much and where the domestic spending is allocated- totally quiet.
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  • Posted by MrSmiggles 7 years, 1 month ago
    I can't even get my wife to commit to a budget. I don't see me convincing congress will do any good.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    IMO, me dino thinks the Deep State and The Swamp (that would include the RINO career politicians) are intertwined.
    The above and below the table Jackasses are definitely working together.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not sure. Term limits might simply give the "deep state" more power since they will be the only ones who've been around a long time.

    We need to revisit the civil service laws. We don't want to go to the bad old days when all the government jobs were political prizes to be given out but we also need accountability to elected leadership.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 1 month ago
    We need a line-item veto. Since the Supreme court has ruled it unconstitutional it will have to be a constitutional amendment but it's the only way to reasonably manage omnibus bills.
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