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Welcome to the realities of Obamacare

Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 9 months ago to The Gulch: General
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My nephew is married and has one child. He works for Midas and they just had a meeting today to discuss their health care plan. The current plan cost him $45.00 a week and included all 3 with eye and dental and a $2,500.00 deductible. The new plan will be $84.00 a week, does not have eye and dental and carries a $5,000.00 deductible. I guess someone finally read the Affordable Care Act and found out what was in it.


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How's that hope and change working out for you? It looks like the only thing you're left with is change.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "My company is paying 75%."
    We're both self-employed and pay for it outside our companies. We have looked into doing it within one of the companies, but this has been favorable so far.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Those numbers, both before and after the Unaffordable Care Act, are about what my family pays."
    Wow. We pay $430/mo for an 11k deductible, a non-PPACA-compliant plan I started Dec 31, 2013. As of Dec 31 of this year, I'll have to go on a compliant plan. That would have cost $800/mo, but they said part of that is they don't know how to price risk b/c they don't know what kind of deluge of people who are already sick will sign up. If it's not as bad as they expect, the price next year may be < $800/mo.

    This is roughly the situation I expected b/c we're in decent health, and the insurance company did tests to prove it before insuring us. Any one with a brain knew that "insuring" against a peril that already occurred would be pricy.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fine is just under $100 + 1% of your adjusted gross income. Next year, it is 2% of AGI, etc.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 9 months ago
    Those numbers, both before and after the Unaffordable Care Act, are about what my family pays.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 9 months ago
    Unless you are a certified non-producer, your actual benefits from the many complex mandates of Obama's care are likely to be negative. Overall, and in the long run, the benefits ARE negative.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From what I have read the only way the IRS can fine you is by taking it out of your tax refund. If you pay so you owe or are even at the end of the year you should be okay. I'm sure they will find a way around that eventually.
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    Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 9 months ago
    The same thing happened to me, I work for a small business. Premiums went from $350 a month for two people to $900 a month. I decided to just put the money away in savings since I only go to the doctor once per year and have the occasional urgent care visit (about $100 charge if you pay cash) Obamacare is hurting the majority of us. Now of course I am breaking the law by choosing to not pay 1/3 of my income to a health insurance I never use. I seriously don't care, let the IRS fine me, it's still cheaper than paying $900/month for insurance that I have to pay a deductible on anyway. The ACA doesn't "help" anyone except for United Healthcare and BCBS and other big insurers AND the Democrats who lobbied for them. Imagine being in a business where people are forced to buy your products and the government does your advertising for you (taxpayers) I'm not kidding, go to an exchange site and you get TAXPAYERS to advertise YOUR company's product which by the way, if you don't buy it, you get penalized! It is the perfect business to be in if you're a total value-less douche bag. I actually work in healthcare on the doctor end and the whole Obamacare thing is a scam. People are paying more for less and on top of that they get to use their taxes to pay for healthcare in addition to after-tax income. Doctors are starting to drop out, and when the younger ones find out the truth they will drop out too..
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We all knew it was about control and not about health care. I wonder what the masses are thinking as this happens to them???
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    Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 9 months ago
    'Free' health care is not free.
    That's what results when 535 lying power mongers vote in favor of a bill that has no rational basis. The decision included the assumption that a lying power monger who has had no management experience can re-design (successfully without negative side effects) two lines of business (health care and insurance) that have been developed over the course of centuries, affect millions of people and thousands of businesses, employ hundreds of thousands, and have capital value of trillions.

    The government of the United States consists of immoral confidence tricksters guilty of fraud, corruption, and treason.
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