What do you think should be the alternative

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As more info on data mining of Facebook are revealed, what alternative, other than the gulch, would you use or create to counter this issue?
SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/03/21/facebook-alternatives-are-there-social-media-platforms-that-dont-collect-and-sell-your-data.html


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    For professionals, looking to find employment, seeking employees, connect with others in their skill set, start projects there's always Linkedin. The only reason I use FB is that friends and relatives who have abandoned written letters, and rarely email, almost exclusively communicate there. I have a very skimpy profile, ignoring the repetitive prompts for more information. I am not so hungry for public discourse that I would even consider Twitter or Instagram, but I do understand that many feel that participation in these forums is a form of support and affirmation.
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    • Posted by  $  blarman 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      Except that LinkedIn just got purchased by Microsoft. And now I'm getting Microsoft spam in my gmail accounts advertising for Office 365, Skype, and other Microsoft products.

      The whole of "social media" is a "necessary evil" in my book - with emphasis on evil.
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  • Posted by  $  exceller 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    "Social Media" per se is an oxymoron.

    Why would people have an urge to post their most personal information for everyone to see?

    It is a perfect example of limited intellect to do so. These people think they somehow attained more importance by being out in the open.
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    • Posted by  $  elfshelf2 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      Yep. Thank you for stating what I would have were I more eloquent. Who dictated this ridiculous waste of time letting everyone else know what movie you just liked? Never been that open about my movie preferences, or anything else about my life. Been gleefully shrugging for 33 years tho. I’ll share that. Here.
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  • Posted by jdg 3 months, 3 weeks ago
    I would like to see more forums like Facebook but with privacy improvements, and with owners contractually binding themselves not to censor or purge their customers for political reasons.

    Until this happens, people will use what's available, even if it's as crude as 8chan.

    But now that Congress has started enacting exceptions to CDA Section 230, open Internet forums may start to disappear, in which case this one may need to become secret. Or the Internet may even become closed again, forcing us to recreate the likes of FidoNet. The marketplace will eventually find workarounds, though; it always does.

    I feel I must add, though, that Facebook has always done data mining for political purposes. The only reason their management is now in crisis mode is that CA did it to help Republicans, while Zuck wants only Democrats to have that access. Zuck Fuckerberg.
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  • Posted by  $  allosaur 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    Me dino has The Gulch. For an alternative, this is all the interaction social media platform I feel any yearning for.
    And even though I'm a frequent flyer point earner, I'm not really here all that much.
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  • Posted by GaryL 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    I was on FB years ago for about a month. As soon as I figured out just how truly invasive it was I dumped off of it. Just being on the WWW and even right here is bad enough because there is no privacy once we hit the send button.
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  • Posted by  $  Thoritsu 3 months, 3 weeks ago
    Social media to the "vetted" media is like e-mail to the written letter. It is a low form of communication. People write e-mail like they speak, but the body language isn't there to add to the communication, and the inhibition of offending a person standing with you is lifted. This leads to terrible communications.

    Social media is the same. People need to apply filters to absorbing it, and more misinformation may help tip that scale for some/many.

    I suggest that social media voluntarily:
    1. add a designation (e.g. icon) to data that comes from a verifiable source (a real person or agency)
    2. Libel and fraud laws be applied as they should
    3. add a designation to data that has been fact-checked in some manner.
    The rest of the data can then become just noise.
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  • Posted by Jstork 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    The way I look at it: don't post anything on the web that you don't want the world to see. That way, if it gets seen by other parties, it is not a big deal.
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  • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    I have survived many years without setting eye to Facebook. It is superficial, gossip, and people teling other people what home page photo they should or should not use. There are local informal groups in any town who talk over politics, economics, and more - as in our McDs! There is Disqus, thankfully there is the Gulch, neighbors who stop to talk during their walks. Any of those are more fulfilling than the junk on Facebook. I love to talk to truck drivers or people in checkout lines, anywhere - amazing conversations.
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    • Posted by  $  AJAshinoff 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      I avoided FB until 2012 when I published my first novel. It's a very good medium to advertise through and receive feedback from readers provided you can avoid the baser elements.Like everything else use with caution and be aware that what you say can come back to bite you.
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      • Posted by  $  Stormi 3 months, 4 weeks ago
        I agree, it does work for business. However, when some company says to see them on their FB page, I say, really, send me to a website, send me an e-mail, but your don't need me if you want me on FB. I read some comments when our daughter had her laptop over, and saw how people were trashing her home page photo choice, like they knew best what it should be. Absolute morons, with no idea what she was projecting. Then I fund some of my friends were following my daughter on FB, grown adults, following then college kids on FB. There must be more important things to do.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 3 months, 4 weeks ago
    I don't use the platforms extensively, so I don't get what is the issue. They are like mini-billboards to get your message out. I know people who successfully connect their business with customers via FB, mostly for free. For free they can put stuff out there and reach an interested audience. They can pay money and reach more of them.

    Why is it a scandal if people's information is shared? It seems like they're providing free billboard space and then trying to charge you if you want a bigger billboard on a more popular route. What's wrong with that?
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    • Posted by  $  blarman 3 months, 4 weeks ago
      "Why is it a scandal if people's information is shared?"

      It's a problem because information is private property and no one has the right to use that private property without consent. What Facebook did was to allow the information to be gleaned and sold without consent.
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      • Posted by  $  exceller 3 months, 3 weeks ago
        Yes. But information being private property should be known best by those whose information is being used. If someone puts it out in the open what they had for dinner yesterday, what kind of lingerie their wives purchased and the problems with junior in school, they deserve their "information" used any way by outfits like FB. Many people were turned down for a job b/c of the contents in FB. FB was created for people who do not value their lives for what it is.
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        • Posted by  $  blarman 3 months, 3 weeks ago
          The wisdom of putting one's personal information in Facebook in the first place is one topic. How Facebook protects that information is quite another. In the case of the data mining of concern here, the analytics company exploited a weakness in Facebook's mechanisms that allowed one to see even a personal profile (different than one's public profile) from just a "Friend" request - not even an acceptance. Facebook has since patched this rather egregious "bug", but IMHO they had a fiduciary duty to protect a "private" profile in the first place.
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