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Ohio student suspended for staying in class during National Walkout Day

Posted by $ nickursis 7 years, 3 months ago to Government
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Hmmmm.. kid decides to say screw the whole political BS being foisted on everyone by the loons, and stays in class (gee, isn't that where they are supposed to be?) and does not participate in school sponsored, taxpayer funded "wlakout" (really should be called "walkabout" as they were obviousy sponsored by the teacher who abandoned student and locked door). Gee, has the so called "education establishment played this whole fiddle for their own ends? Are our supposed "caring educators" actually using this to attack the Presisdent and government because their candidate didnot get elected? Why is a kid who actually WENT to school suspended, yet the entire frigging school NOT SUSPENDED, for missing class?


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You can even spin a political career off life not being fair with fall guys to blame for being all kinds of "ists." .
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your not supposed to use objectivity with liberals.
    They don't want to discuss anything.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Senior year in high school during an English test: The teacher was gone the whole time. One of the worst D students in the whole senior class continuously and openly asked and received help throughout the test from all those sitting around him. When the tests were later returned the teacher made a big speech beaming about how proud she was of the A grade received by said D student. Everyone else knew and sat stunned by the display of fawning gullibility. It's not a way for a teacher to earn respect.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Teachers who leave the room during a test aren't gone only for a "few minutes". There is far more danger of cheating in a roomful of students than any alleged danger to a serious student doing his own homework.
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  • Posted by ewv 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The article says "The district says it's responsible for students' safety and they can't be unsupervised". How many of the "protestors" from that school and across the country were "supervised" while they were out hysterically shrieking? Where was the "supervision" when students were being slaughtered in a "gun free zone" while the security officials cowered outside? The sudden concern for "supervision" of a serious student doing his homework in a classroom where they were all supposed to be sounds like a rationalization against an politically incorrect easy target.
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  • Posted by Stormi 7 years, 3 months ago
    That are os Ohio is liberal. It is no surprise to see how our kids are being indoctrinated in the classroom. It is all about creating sheep, and the teachers are the "change agents", to use their words.Some schools do Maslow group therapy, one child forbidden to speak, child the other 26 unload on him. The child either learns to conform, or as in our school sys., attempts suicide. It takes some tough measures to created snowflake sheeple.
    I want to know if the school got their funding for that day from the government, or if it was counted as a "snow day"? If the teachers should have been in the classroom, then the boy should have been aloud to be there. At least locally, when religious ed is offered, those who go to that off grounds, recognize those who do not, have a right to go to a specified study hall. Ut was bit supervised to allow all those kids to walk out, and miss yet another day of what little education they get these days. I think the school system should be sued over this attempt to force political views on students, like some Russian classroom.
    We know Soros is funding gun opposition, maybe this is Russian collusion as well!
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Can't argue with that.. they come down like a ton of bricks though and if you have a business to keep solvent...
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  • Posted by Solver 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    “I try to avoid the conversation entirely,”
    And that’s a good reason why their bigoted ideology continues to spread rapidly. To them, you self censoring yourself is a big win.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually - you are very correct. I try to avoid the conversation entirely, because even talking about it gets a white person labeled as a "racist".
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So driving faster than conditions allow is generally considered to be a risk to others. Let's put this in perspective, people with sports cars like to drive fast, they roll-ass around me with my great big Ram Longhorn and like to nail the brakes in front of me, etc... either fully realizing or not realizing that I leave several lengths of distance because it takes me considerably further to stop than they do.

    Same situation, I can drive through snow / sleet / deep-snow in the mountains without even blinking - so why should I troll behind their stupid-ass with their chains on the mustang & whatever? Shouldn't I just be able to hit the air-lift on the suspension and drive over the top of them because they are going far slower than the posted speed limit?

    Speeding isn't a victimless crime - if everyone was driving whatever they wanted to - we would have far more traffic deaths. We restrict semi trucks to 55 here in California, no matter the posted limit, our semi-truck involved accidents are far-lower than the national norm, and jackknifes are almost unheard of.
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  • Posted by Solver 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is so much correlation between increased political correctness and increased hate you would think it’s a cause.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The political correctness of coming out against all forms of actual or supposed "racism" is actually causing more and more white people to just want nothing to do with blacks anywhere.

    I am hearing more use of the word "nigger" since Obama got elected. I remember when I was a kid, "nigger" in north carolina referred to black people who were really considered some sort of inferior human being. I never thought of blacks as inferior, they just have black skin.

    Now, I have become a "culturist", and do discrimminate against certain cultures, hip-hop "entitled " black cultures being one of them. Another culture I dont like is white "entitled" people, especially females who think just because they have children, they are entitled to be taken care of.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    my point with the agents on that show was their attitude, and how they stuck to the simple job they had to do without alluding to what they are doing is RIGHT.

    Cops, particularly traffic and drug stops are enforcing victimless crimes which I dont even think should be crimes. There needs to be a victim in my view before there can be a crime.

    If a cop told me- "look, I am paid to do a job so I can feed my family, so I have to give you this victimless crime citation that I may not even agree with. You have a shot to get it thrown out in court if you want to go through the hassle, but I didnt pass the law" - I would respect the cop more than I do now.

    Cops hardly ever prevent crime, they just investigate it and assess blame later. I am not sure that really is what I want as a citizen. No wonder so many people have guns. They dont trust the legal system here to protect them from crime. Far more effective to protect yourself at the time the crime is about to occur.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Gotta think like a perp. If you get caught doing a crime, immediately accuse your victim (or anyone else handy) of being the criminal. As the fellow who breezed through a stop sign said to me after we had both stopped inches from a collision, YOU HAD A STOP SIGN, BUDDY!

    Beware of stepping in to apprehend the mugger beating up the old lady. You'll suddenly find yourself locked up.

    I won't even mention how you can be called a racist for having the wrong color of skin.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 7 years, 3 months ago
    city of Baltimore is using $100,000.00 of taxpayers money to bus kids to D.C. for the march
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't mistake arrogance for display of / taking control of the situation. While I agree, law enforcement does attract a certain "type" of person, we as society have to accept that as we're all free to choose to do what we want and Blue Bloods is a work of fiction.

    Building consensus isn't part of their job description, they are there to resolve disputes - in a major city - that is probably within the 18-25 minutes allowed per call, as they really only go from one call to the next.

    As I said... protesting people asked to do a very difficult job doesn't solve the problem - when not chipping in something to help.

    The show you are talking about on Netflix... those are not police officers, those are recovery agents - private contractors hired by their finance companies. They wear a uniform-looking thing, and can get assistance from police if it's hostile, but they are basically the same as the repo-guy here.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In my limited experience with police, they tend to approach situations with arrogance and demands. Add this behavior to an already violent behavior and it’s not going to turn out good

    I think the function of the police in disputes is basically to convince the parties that violent resolution can’t be tolerated and to get them to use courts or talking it out to settle things

    I have recently watch on Netflix. “If you can’t pay, we take it away”. They do repossessions and evictions in England Their people deal with very upsetting scenarios but do it in a very good way. I wish our police could learn their approach
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The challenge with the statement of 'target' is that statistically, there is no difference in outcomes for people of any race with violent / felony contact with police.

    I'm not a police officer. My only comparable experience was a few months of patrols in Rwanda, Kosovo, and Mogidishu when I was in the Air Force in the 90's. It's extremely tense when you come up on two people in the middle of a dispute, you have no idea which one is the aggressor or the victim, or if both are aggressors, or domestic, or what the case is. I have a lot of sympathy for the officers, we basically outsource our mental illness 'response' to the police in this country, they don't have the education or expertise to deal with it, we punish them when they misjudge a situation, and certain communities punish/blame/protest their actions while rarely or never doing anything in the way of volunteering to solve the problems.

    For each of those cases - did any of the parents encourage the kids to be a policeman, firefighter, or doctor when they grew up? Did they do anything to point the kids in that direction? This is really about not only the degradation, but the complete failure of family structure in America. What we really need to do is stop blaming AR-15's, police, or any other inanimate object or societal norm when there isn't a father "in the picture". No dad? No blame.

    We all remember the routine - particularly with Ferguson.. The kid was at first an aspiring track star and on his way to college. Whoops, he's 330 lbs.. no track star future. Whoops.. he may not have really been going to college. Whoops.. he may not have been just kicking it with his friends on the porch... well, maybe he just stole the beer and pretzels he was eating, but that was a misunderstanding. Video of him committing robbery? What robbery? Oh damn, the police officer was found innocent by a mixed-race jury - now time to burn the city to the ground in "protest".

    Ok, so here's the problem with that approach - by the time the 3rd, 4th or 5th lie comes out, no one wants to listen to it, or give a damn anymore. Honestly, by the time the second lie came out, I was done. Why not just state the facts? He was walking down the street (or fleeing the store), he was a suspect and the officer had probably cause to stop him and detain him - but he had no reasonable cause to escalate the situation further. If the kid was trying to get away, let him go - call for backup, follow him with the police car. I don't know what happened, if the kid tried to go for the officer's weapon, the outcome was valid - but we'll never really know the truth because we crucify officers for making a bad decision when they have a ¼ of a second to do so. If they make a mistake in that ¼ second, we imprison them for life. We ask them to keep the peace, and keep our society intact. Rarely do we acknowledge how hard that is to do.

    What I do know is that when the arguments always start with a lie, they are not getting their point made, they are just deteriorating what others think of their group and their position on issues.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is a difference between waling out of a room full of students for a few minutes and a single student left unsupervised. To a degree, the students will supervise each other. To a degree.

    Different schools have different policies. My school was pretty firm on it, although the teacher was perfectly happy letting me work on the project by myself he wasn't allowed to.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Considering the well over 1000 legislative seats lost by democrats beginning with Obama's first mid-year election, I would say it hasn't worked out well. They need a new strategy, maybe one with a little less "falsehoods" in the standard-bearing case studies.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 7 years, 3 months ago
    I haven't read much on this issue but have seen much discussion about it. So I will weigh in as a high school teacher.

    If the school was sponsoring this event; then, the teachers were required to be in the crowd monitoring the whole thing. Therefore, as the child would be unmonitored the school would have a problem with his actions.

    The question is, why would the school be sponsoring this? This is where the parents should get a lawyer and make them explain why they would support this. Of course the school can argue that as this was a widely publicized occurrence. That it was less disruptive to the educational process to go along with it, as opposed to resisting the whole thing.

    Which is were the lawyer should step in an say that they are trampling this child's 1st Amendment rights by punishing him for not participating.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Any time our math teacher gave us a written test he left the room, went to the teachers' lounge I guess, leaving us No Opportunity Whatever to even begin to think about cheating on the test.

    He was teaching things far beyond math.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe they are just using this in order to gain political power at the expense of the white people.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Speaking of Neil Schulman, he's also a great read. I recommend his Alongside Night and especially The Rainbow Cadenza. Unfortunately both are out of print.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not minimizing that some of their points are valid, but they are also a hate group. They paint everyone "non-black" with the same stroke, close freeways for hours forcing people that did nothing to them to piss in a jar while stuck in their cars, damage property, smash windows, etc..

    For example, in Ferguson, for days/weeks the media "omitted" the young man had just strong-arm-robbed a convenience store, they wanted "innocent and minding his own business". Trayvon Martin - the only photo they had of him was a 12-year old class picture, even though many recent ones were available on his Facebook page, the narrative was "young defenseless child walking to get a soda-pop" (but had recently been arrested for possession of stolen goods (jewelry) from Miami-Dade and that is why he was moved to live with dad).

    Lest we also forget their targeting and ambush of police officers in Dallas.

    My personal viewpoint, while I don't agree or condone the use of deadly force by police in many cases, that can also be minimized by not doing things that invite negative police contact. I also have a very hard time taking a stand one way or another when media portrayals of a case are missing key facts. Most people make it through life without 30 or 40 or 50 arrests. If you do have regular contact with police, the odds of a misunderstanding exploding into an incident obviously go up enormously.

    Everyone is offered an education for free, it's a key to get out of the hood, change life's circumstances, etc. Some embrace it while many others are either too lazy for the long-road or prefer the 'cool' image of being a dumb-ass. Ultimately, everyone has an opportunity given to them at enormous cost to the taxpayers, and many choose to flush it down the drain (white or black).
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