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Walter Williams Nails IT

Posted by khalling 10 years, 11 months ago to Culture
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I wouldn't be that polite...


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    Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So, you've had an hour and a half and I see that you've posted within that time, so am I correct or not? I provided you the info in a method that is irrefutable, her own mouth. Are you willing to accept that I am correct on this?
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    Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No she didn't. She could have more rightly called it "rational self-interest" which would have been more correct, and not had such controversy. But that's what she wanted, since controversy drives interest. Same thing with altruism. Had she said bondage or enslavement, nobody would have blinked twice.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    “AR defined altruism as a requirement to give oneself for others.”

    I originally assumed that what you wrote is what Ayn Rand actually said about altruism.
    I did a google search on what you said Ayn Rand used for the definition and got no matches at all.
    I wouldn't use that as what Ayn Rand actually said but more likely as a form of what others have said Ayn Rand said.
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    Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago
    Sorry, I'm not your research assistant. Enough Objectivists have said so. I take them at their word. If they don't know what they adhere to, why should I?
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, I missed that particular AR definition. Could you point it out? I tend to want to look at the actual quotes of what people said and not what people say they said.
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    Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why do you want to go round and round on this?

    AR defined altruism as a requirement to give oneself for others. That is slavery. If you choose to do so, I see that as charity. 'nuff said.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wikis use collective voting systems so you shouldn't trust them or other such sources for total truth.

    How would an individual's choice to practice altruism be slavery or bondage? It only becomes so when when some other person or group demands “social altruism” for "the greater good" or such.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 11 months ago
    I might have turned the end slightly, and said one of the following -
    A: Well, then, tell me what part of what you earn belongs to me.
    or the less polite
    B. So some of what you earn belongs to me - your wallet, please?
    I like to make it personal.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Latin teacher [or reader] has an advantage: the "lege" part of the word "privilege" comes from the Latin word lex, legis [the "legis" part is what gets used] which has no "d". Therefore, privilege.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It'll make you feel better about yourself, God says you have to tithe, it's your 'fair share', you owe it to the society that allowed you to earn it, blah-blah, etc.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unless he really was a black woman. What happens then?? A conservative black woman would cause the Richter libtard scale to overload.
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    Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, I don't put any faith in anything from Wikipedia. Any source that can be changed by someone on a whim doesn't seem like a reliable source to me.

    I don't see a requirement to perform an act anywhere in the common definitions of altruism. AR seems to include that as part of her definition. As I've said, if you include the requirement aspect, that seems more like slavery or bondage.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One hundred percent true. There is actually no such thing as social justice. Filling out an application, whether it's for a job or for college, I think is invasive in the extreme. The questions of ethnicity should be obliterated! Merit should be the only governing factor in deciding on the worthiness of a potential employee or student. Period. There is no bias. Gender should not be a factor either. Leave those spaces blank next time you have to fill out a form. Do it and see the person who has to go over it squirm. That would be an excellent lesson in showing that " social justice" is nothing but a divisive sham being used to herd the sheeple.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She did study and learn from other philosophies--particularly what didn't work and what led to irrational and illogical behavior. Because some are taught from their earliest age that something is positive--even when shown that their learned definitions aren't right or even reasoned--they actually try to do the subversion.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right on Herb; Altruism or selflessness is the opposite of selfishness or rational self-interest and posing it as a virtue is evil.
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