The project X today. But even worse than Ayn Rand professed

Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 1 month ago to Science
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Just today again in the gulch . After commenting on the Geoengineering that has been going on for more than a decade a response stated that it is contrails not Chemtrails. People need to wake up to the fact that our taxpayer dollars are funding a systematic poisoning of everyone and every living thing as nano particles of heavy metals are sprayed over head. Project X also was a type of the perversion of science by unscrupulous and power-hungry government authorities, and was also a metaphor for the unintended consequences of the use of taxpayer's money to fund scientific research.
What can we do to stop this evil madness.
After watching this young woman who is a true HERO and are not furious at the enablers ,
well then maybe heaven will help you.

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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 1 month ago
    Contrails first appeared in 1943 when planes were built that were capable of flying high enough to create them. It is nothing more than exhaust combined with water vapor. Air drawn into an engine is compressed, heated then cooled as it leaves the engine. The exhaust particles provide a surface for the water that is in the air to condense onto creating a cloud. It is the same process that creates normal clouds in the sky, there must be water vapor, some kind of pollution in the air for the vapor to condense onto, the air cools and changes from high to low pressure and the moisture condenses out forming clouds.
    This conspiracy theory is without foundation in reality. Why would any who wanted to rule the world poison the world, they live here too. Spreading chemicals at that altitude and that thinly would have little if any effect on those below. You would have to do this for thousands of years. You could spread nerve gas at that altitude and it would be too dispersed to have any effect on the ground. We are wasting our time with this kind of theory.
    People are easier to control than needing to spread chemicals through the air. People like authority even when it tells them to do something they don't want to do. Religion and the state teaches that above all else you must obey (duty) an authority until the authority gives you permission to do otherwise. Unfortunately about 98% of the people go along with authority.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      Did you watch her presentation? Why would she
      Give up her career?
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      • Posted by chad 6 years, 1 month ago
        I did watch her presentation. When someone asks you to believe them and gives you the background for why they wouldn't lie of course you have no idea if any of that is true. The fact that she gave up her career does not mean that she isn't mistaken or misleading you.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
          Monsanto has created new GE aluminum resistant seeds. Why does Monsanto need aluminum resistant seeds? As per the International Food Policy Research Institute:
          Small-scale, resource-poor farmers in developing countries face daily stresses, including poor soils, drought, and lack of inputs. Ongoing trends such as climate change and population growth will likely exacerbate binding stresses. A new generation of genetically engineered (GE) crop research aims to alleviate these pressures through the improvement of subsistence crops—such as cassava, sorghum, and millet—that incorporate traits such as tolerance to drought, water, and aluminum in soils as well as plants with more efficient nitrogen and phosphorus use. However, many developing countries lack the necessary biosafety systems for a timely and cost-effective adoption. This brief focuses on the regulatory reforms necessary for farmers and consumers in developing countries to benefit from GE crops.
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    • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 6 years, 1 month ago
      I must respond, in reference to your explanation of contrails. While I wholly agree with the natural formation of such trails, there have been numerous accounts of local military flights where the trails were akin to "sky writing". In fact, a local Air Force pilot was recently grounded for sky writing the depiction of a male organ, over the skies of the Okanogan valley, in Washington state
      .
      Additionally, I have photos of such skywriting by military pilots that could not possibly have been natural, due to the trails being started and cut off at exact moments in the flights.

      While I may not entirely buy into the conspiracy theory of pesticide industries or our government deliberately spraying us, I can't discount the fact that all contrails are not naturally formed.
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      • Posted by chad 6 years, 1 month ago
        Sky writing is usually done with smoke so that it can be turned off and on. As far as contrails being cut off at 'exact moments' that can be caused by a change in the atmospheric conditions that create the contrails or the aircraft simply descending to an altitude that would not be conducive to its formation. An observer on the ground would not detect this variation. To assume that because it is something you cannot explain leaves only one alternative explanation if a poor scientific method.
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    • Posted by $ pixelate 6 years, 1 month ago
      I have been thinking along the same lines ...
      If the World is ruled by the top 1% of 1% of 1% -- that would be 1 in a million ... which amounts to a bit over 7,000 people. And as you indicate -- they are not living in caves -- nor would they want to.
      I think that the Rulers are already in control of The People by keeping them dumbed-down, fat, happy and distracted. The modern peasants are perfectly content with the velvet-covered bars of their cage so long as they get their Popeye's Chicken and Dancing with the Stars.

      I actually like Popeye's Chicken ... so call me an Enlightened Peasant.
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      • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
        Somebody nicked you so +1.
        You do have to consider that a rational explaination or lack thereof is possible with the
        Idiots in the govt. Usually $ plays a role. Not always but a by product for the looters none the less.
        But when airplanes fly into iconic buildings and my granddaughter at 9 months old has to have her booties removed to fly. Well what is objective about that. If you would like I have a hundred other examples that make no sense to a reasoning mind with deadly results.
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        • Posted by $ pixelate 6 years, 1 month ago
          Thanks for the nudge. Perhaps someone on this channel finds enjoyment in "Dancing with the Stars" and I kinda used that as a delineation marker in context of being dumbed-down. Regarding the TSA ... these folks are not the brightest bulbs in the bag. I always take the "Opt Out" and get the pat-down instead of going through the microwave machine. We have no long-term studies for the side-effects of being in a microwave machine for a few seconds ... times a hundred for my four-flights a year. At any rate ... I get the pat-down. They never bother to check under my feet... I could have agent X in a 1-oz gel bag under my left foot, agent Y under the right foot... mix them while on the plane to form phosgene gas or similar. No water bottles on the plane, right? It might be some toxic agent in that bottle. Ok, so what happens to that bottle of potential toxin? It goes into the large trash can ... sitting right there next to the TSA agent and flying public. I discard a bottle containing agent X ... the guy a few behind me discards a bottle containing agent Y ... both bottles have loose caps... and react to produce a toxic fume. There are likely dozens of other scenarios that could be played out. The whole mission of the TSA is to generate compliance from the flying public -- it is the Theater of Security. Moreover, all the TSA employees are hired for their ability to Comply -- thinking is actually frowned upon. These TSA people just walk through their state-prescribed motions and collect a government check.
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  • Posted by mcsandberg 6 years, 1 month ago
    This is simply conspiracy nonsense. It has no place here in the Gulch! Commercial jet engines are now higher bypass than they used to be, so the exhaust is cooler and therefor condenses to visible vapor more often.

    See http://thevane.gawker.com/chemtrails-... .

    There will soon be a lot more of these contrails as the PW1100G Geared Turbofan Engine goes into service http://theflyingengineer.com/flightde... .
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      US scientists have recently admitted using chemtrails to modify the weather and block out sun rays, it has been revealed.
      One of the investigators, David Keith from Harvard University announced they would be spraying sun-reflecting chemical particles into the atmosphere to artificially cool the planet, using a balloon flying 80,000 feet over Fort Sumner, New Mexico. The idea is that the particles will reflect sunlight back into space, helping decrease the temperature of the Earth.
      Keith owns a multimillion dollar geoengineering research centre provided by Microsoft founder Bill Gates. The research centre previously commissioned a study by a US aerospace company that made the case for the feasibility of large-scale deployment of solar geoengineering technologies.
      Now Keith, along with his partner, James Anderson, plans tostart pumping out tens or hundreds of kilograms of sulphate aerosols into the sky.
      This is the same concept behind chemtrails – a similar geoengineering project in which planes pump barium, aluminium, polymer fibres and biological agents into the sky.
      Chemtrails are distinguishable from contrails – which are thefumes left behind from aeroplanes, with the main visible differences being that contrails tend to disappear very quickly as the airplane moves along; whereas chemtrails not only remain in the sky but expand and eventually form clouds.
      However, theUK government, along with other governments and scientific research agencies across the world have, up until this point, dismissed chemtrails and the idea of geoengineering and weather modification as wild conspiracy theories with no factual basis.
      This now appears not to be the case, and this new geoengineering project which is being conducted by Keith and Anderson will take place within a year. It will involve the release of tens or hundreds of kilograms of particles to measure the impacts on ozone chemistry, and to test ways to make sulphate aerosols the appropriate size.
      Keith told the Guardian however that the objective was not to change the climate or the weather – despite the fact that it’s stated aim is to block sun rays.
      He said: “The objective is not to alter the climate, but simply to probe the processes at a micro scale. The direct risk is very small.”
      He added that solar geoengineering could be an inexpensive method to slow down global warming.
      However, hisplans have drawn criticism from other scientists and environmental groups who claim that it could have unpredictable, disastrous consequences for the Earth’s weather systems and food supplies.
      While Keith admitted that the complexities of the project are yet to be understood, he claimed that the experiment will provide an opportunity to improve models of how the ozone layer could be altered by much larger-scale sulphate spraying.
      But environmental campaigners disagree. Pat Mooney, executivedirector of the Canadian-based technology watchdog ETC Group said that in actual fact the plans are likely to cause even more damage to the ozone layer, disrupt rainfall and contaminate food supplies.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 1 month ago
    If it were just a conspiracy, i would not tie into and be part of so many other government programs. We know Echelon existed, Brits caught Clinton spying on them. We know that HAMP uses some of the same technology as Chemtrails, only to move hurricanes. Obama asked them to move a hurricane inland. We know that HAARP started as a weather control installation, but with always the idea of going to mind control, as Tesla envisioned. We know about radio waves affecting the group think of the masses. We know that HAARP was aimed at several school shooting sites over the years, as meteorologist tracked it. In the 70s, I was in a lab with a former Army guy, who had quit the Army because he could not stand what they were doing, dumping psychotropic type drugs in the water supply, on Indian reservations and recording reactions of unsuspecting Indians. We know that Congress is aware of HAARP, as I have seen committee meetings discuss our and other country's installations, on TV. Today, conspiracy theories are more truth and the talking points of mainstream media are the fantasy.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 1 month ago
    The various metals she lists have been commonly used by the U.S. military as additives to fuel, primarily for better performance, range, and resisting evaporation in hot climates, or freezing at high altitude. The exact compound makeup is classified, and she should have been told it was a need to know. The geoengineering idea doesn't wash. I used to be part of a team involved in "weather war" studies, where we were examining the possibility of turning the weather into a kind of weapon, and we realized rather quickly that the amount of material needed to have even a limited local effect was prohibitively high. She does have a point that only a limited list of metals are now considered pollutants, and should be the subject of further study. Even a conspiracy theory can sometimes be partially right.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      I respect you from your past comments.
      But please watch the sky . For several decades
      I have lived 1 1/2 miles from a major intl.airport I watch the planes a contrail dissipates Chemtrails spread I have watched two plane at the same time
      One with contrails one with Chemtrails at high altitudes, a big difference. I can see the difference.
      Chemtrails last for over an hour.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 1 month ago
        Note the first part of my comment above. The military definitely uses metal oxides in their jet fuels, and those particulates will collect more moisture that will form a more long lasting ice cloud. Neither the military nor the commercial aviation fuels also haven't been restricted to sulfur content, like the surface diesel transport systems, so there are undoubtedly sulfur elements to the jet combustion stream as well, ergo "chemtrails," as an incidental byproduct, but not with intent to geoengineer.

        In fact, I have no doubt the military have been sweating bullets about an administration deciding they have to clean up their aviation fuels. That's why they're conducting biofuel tests, to be prepared to move to a cleaner fuel. There's also a tactical incentive, since lack of a persistent contrail makes an aircraft harder to spot. The B-2 bomber rarely leaves any trail at all, with the exhaust spread out to cool fast before any ice has a chance to form. It's part of the stealth technology.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
          +1 somebody nicked you undeserved in my opinion. Your explanation makes some sense. I know nothing about military aircraft fuel I would have thought it was sourced at a refinery and that would be where it would be formulated and additives infused.
          Anyone who denies that these trails are all the same is not observant. This presentation by Kristen is just one of many different things that have made me wonder what is going on. I have another video that I would like you to comment on it is just a minute 1/2 long or so.about 2/3 of the way through the contrail is turned on and off.
          https://youtu.be/0GrspMZJoyE
          Not to mention that the new plan announced by Harvard university is to put the particulates in the sky from very high altitude Balloons and release in the stratosphere. I'll search that article and paste.
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 1 month ago
            As you requested, I viewed not just the video you mentioned, but several others. I still maintain the persisting contrails are related to fuel content. The "off and on" nature of the trails could have several explanations: it could be a change in engine setting, as it appears the AWACS throttled back to get better space between it and the C-17; it could be an atmospheric moisture content or temperature change (in one off and on situation, the density of the trails appears to coincide with proximity to clouds); we could also be witnessing biofuel testing, as the air force has been using the AWACS for those tests, in hope of making it harder to target that vital command and control asset during conflict. I admit I have no special insight, just scientific intuition based on years of working with jet and rocket engines.

            The Harvard proposed study appears to be intended to be very open and public, as it should be. They pointedly reject the sulfur dioxide particulates, as they should.

            To expand on the fuel issue, the military has always used special blends, from their first effort, JP-1. They switched from JP-4, which had the longest operational history, and have been using JP-8 in the last decade, which might explain the more persistent contrails seen of late. The latest operational blend, JP-10, was developed to lessen contrails on the Reaper armed drone, making it harder to see.
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            • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 1 month ago
              Since I live about 20 miles away from Tinker AFB and roughly 10 miles from Will Rogers International airport, I'll keep an eye out for the differences. Tinker services all of the big Air Force aircraft, so there should be plenty of opportunity.
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            • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
              Thanks Dr Zarkov99,
              Your expertise and thoughtful response is greatly appreciated.
              It certainly is a much better answer to this issue than just a typical contrail , the persistence or lack of dissipation compared to commercial craft is
              Obvious to anyone who cares to look.
              Regards,
              DOB
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 1 month ago
    If you're not pissed, you are not paying attention.

    Americans are not used to thinking our government does things without telling us or consulting us.
    I Never ever slept all cozy in bed thinking government was protecting me.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 1 month ago
    Aw, ya think that refusenik silly woman knows better than our elite betters?
    Let's pollute the sky to save the world from climate change pollution.
    Yeah, that's the~cough! cough!~ticket.
    Let's save the world!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lJTk...
    Let's save the world! Yay!
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      One of many results to this whistleblower was to be threatened to be institutionalized in a mental hospital. Her response was she enlisted to serve and protect the constitution from enemies at home and abroad. She is ready to give her life for this country. Not much can be said about the military cowards who fly and those who load the toxins on the planes and the officers. Those who would threaten a true patriot so they can get the benifits of an easy retirement paid from the taxes paid by their victims.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 1 month ago
        When I heard the lady tell how that Air Force officer threatened her, my blood ran cold and I thought now that''s one lowdown soulless SOB. Makes me wonder what kind of evil people he must answer to and/or associate with.
        I'm suddenly remembering a lowdown warden who made his personnel miserable. One day he made me his personal bodyguard when he visited a cell block. The officer up in the cube (the guy who looks over the block and pushes buttons that open and lock doors) was sneering at that despised warden the whole times. When the warden left, we laughed at the big chicken with me saying, "Looks like he has some use for us after all."
        When I was told by another officer that he, having retired, had just died of a heart attack, me dino said, "Aw, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy." Then we both laughed.
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        • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 1 month ago
          This is what makes me wonder somewhat about the people who want to be able to lock people up more easily, or take away their gun rights just because somebody else (possibly a family member) says so---or maybe has a grudge?--I guess maybe a court hearing would be necessary in those cases, though. It shouldn't be too easy to do.
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  • Posted by MrSmiggles 6 years, 1 month ago
    Contrail conspiracy theories abound but I've yet to hear the "Why they are doing it" portion.
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    • Posted by LaMuse 6 years, 1 month ago
      After watching this video I kept waiting for the “why”. It’s obvious she is trying to connect the dots but fails to summarize the reason for her conclusion. What would be the purpose of the government poisoning the air and the earth? It’s also noteworthy that only a “special” lab can test your rain and snow samples - and for the ultra low price of $50.00! Whenever an astonishing discovery ends with a request involving dollars, I say follow the money.
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      • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
        There was no request for money. What you have written about is how and where to test a sample if
        You want to know the aluminum and other metal contents that are nano sized.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      Why did the 9/11 attack result in US citizens being spied on and treated as if we are the terrorists?
      Why was the security detail in Benghazi told to "stand down" when our compound was under attack? Why were US soldiers exposed to Agent Orange when there was no intention of winning the Vietnam war? Why did Roosevelt ignore the early warning of an attack on Pearl Harbor?
      Why was the Bonus Army attacked in DC by General McArthur.? Why has the govt. been filled with Muslim when they have a jihad against us?
      Why has the CIA been running illegal drugs into this country for decades? Use your logic and reasoning to explain most govt. activities and let me know what makes sense.
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  • Posted by jeffdhurley1 6 years, 1 month ago
    wow ... where to begin . Yes there are "chemtrails " (notice quotation marks ) you see them in crop dusting ,mosquito bombing cloud seeding ,and sometimes in firefighting planes spreading retardant . This pretty white lines you see in the sky are contrails . water vapor condensing around particulate caused by burning of fossil fuels in aircraft and occasionally vortex generated by rapid pressure changes in air as it flows over flight control surfaces under specific conditions . The thickness and hangtime of a contrail are dependant on many variables .Temp humidity winds aloft at different altitudes all are factors .Sometimes ,if conditions are right the contrails actually will kickoff cloud formation from the original particulate .Now it was noticed during flight bans after 911 that sunlight was " brighter ' due to the lack of particulate reflecting light back into space . That observance is one of the main reasons for green fuel initiatives, that and cost benefits as fossil fuel can be volatile in pricing . Contrails are everywhere , but with the exception of aerial spraying operations (like those listed above) that are necessarily done at VERY low altitude to be effective chemtrails are a conspiracy designed to line someones pocketbook , nothing more ... As far as HAARP goes. I worked on it.HAARP is a target of conspiracy theorists, who claim that it is capable of "weaponizing" weather. Commentators and scientists say that advocates of this theory are uninformed, as claims made fall well outside the abilities of the facility, if not the scope of natural science. This link is the most accurate of any I have found . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Fr... check it out ...John Galt would have been proud of it .
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