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Viscerally Visceral, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 7 years, 4 months ago to Philosophy
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The dictionary defines “visceral” as: “Relating to deep inward feelings rather than to the intellect.” I was trying to get the woman to define the principle supporting her assertion and perhaps extend it to other issues. She had a deep inward feeling, that’s all, no principle, a product of the intellect.

It was some years before I realized that “visceral” was a key to understanding the world. Its definition is not just a definition, it’s a description of how most people perceive and interpret reality most of the time—with their emotions rather than their intellects.

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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 4 months ago
    I have said for a long time that perception is far more important in politics and 'the right to rule' than reality. If you can get the crowd to think objectively and rationally there are very few things anyone would dare ask of the government knowing the resulting effects of its use of force to make everyone comply.
    An observation of the herd tells me that the hope for their permission to live objectively and free is almost nil. The best we can do is live unobserved. It was after all the quest of 'the Gulch' to live where others could not observe them and employ the use of government violence to extort the property of others.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 7 years, 4 months ago
    Wow. I don't even know what to say. Which line to quote. What part to say "Yes, THIS!!!" about. I can't even say "Oh, this is good," because it's so much better than "good" I don't know exactly how to describe it....I guess my only tiny contribution would be to say "Don't stop at the beginning. The really good part - or what most people will perceive as 'really good' only appears when you get down to the CNN Town Hall part."

    Not that the beginning is at all less cogent, but that most audiences these days are only interested in hearing about the "latest" exciting "disaster" to emote about, and don't care or even think about abortion until somebody shoots up an abortion clinic. THEN that will come to the forefront again. Pillar to post....that's what this new young audience does....from one thing to another, kind of like a pinball machine.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I love life but am unwilling to live it on "their" terms. I will fight them with everything I have, including my life, if necessary. With such a mindset, I find a sense of humor and irony essential to preserving my sanity and retaining my optimistic (yes, optimistic, at least on a personal level) sense of life. Dark times call forth dark humor. I make no apologies.
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  • Posted by dukem 7 years, 4 months ago
    This is one of the clearest and best expressions of what - to me - is the central thesis of our rapidly failing system of expressive thought, and ultimately, our failing political system - failing due to the emotive bantering of fearful mindless humans. All is driven by emotion, it seems.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 4 months ago
    "Imagine when our system, built as it is on wishful thinking, finally collapses. Imagine confronting these hysterical creatures.
    [snip]
    Collapse will have its compensations."
    When you said this before, you said it jest. Given the path irrational fearful reactions to a monetary crisis can take, though, you have a dark sense of humor I don't get. I might get the joke if you wrote "---Adolf Hitler" right after "Collapse will have its compensations," but it's too soon. In millennium it will be like the Punic Wars or something, but it's still within living memory.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 4 months ago
    "I asked if the right to control one’s body implied a right to control one’s mind, and the right to control the products of one’s body and mind."
    If her visceral reaction were one's right to one's body, life, mind, and everything they create were absolute and the person used it as a starting point, this is consistent with how I see things. Ayn Rand fans tell me if I had understood Virtue of Selfishness, I would understand that human rights are not an axiom but rather flow logically from reason. I'm really fascinated by this because I don't follow it, but I like the notion. I like the notion that my belief in human rights are given by our creator or my visceral feelings but rest on reason.

    Many people who know how to derive the origin of rights think people like me who hold them as axioms are contemptible philistines. If the less philosophically sophisticated of the world just took human rights to heart for unsound reasons, that would be an improvement.
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    Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 4 months ago
    If rational thought is a requirement for debate, there is no gun control "debate."
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