THIS IS NOT RIGHT (But it isn't left either)

Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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When Trump won the presidency, the screams of fear and loathing reverberated throughout the nation.His attacks on the media, and his stream of consciousness bizarre commentaries, his P.T. Barnum appeal to his supporters, and then, horror of horrors, his use of social media, especially his poison pen Twitter entries.He has said some pretty awful things. Things no politician in his right mind would ever say. He certainly isn't predictable.But what has the sheninigans of this wild man billionaire done to the country?What has happened is what the Democrats fear the most. The economy is booming, foreign policy is working better in the one year Trump has been in office, than 8 years of Obama. The Constitution is still intact and the structures of government a settling down and are beginning to to function as they should,. The Trump rhetoric may be just the wrong side of toxic but all the nuts and bolts of government remain tightly screwed in place. It looks as if society is being governed well and proper. Perhaps we need more unconventional leaders in the seats of power in Washington.


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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, rebuild the economy to be less reliant on (higher education and skills-based) services, and provide more of the opportunities that used to employ the inner cities. If you haven’t noticed, it’s working, hundreds of billions in new plants are being built - we haven’t seen that since the 60’s.

    Then you stop throwing fish, and teach them how to fish for themselves.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's an old trick. We here in the USA do it to one another all the time. The solution is to cut back on costs and hang in there until the predator either starts to run out of money or feels the loss isn't worth the game. Seen it over and over in our own competition with each other.I'm afraid that raising tariffs, while it feels good and vengeful will bite us in the ass in the long run.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I often wonder if some of you read the same post that I posted. None of your reply seems to pertain to it at all. I was born during the great depression in Detroit. A town that lived or died with the auto industry.Lots of hardship. I remember my parents finishing the food I left on the plate because my mom had a budget of $5 per week for food. (Good thing I was a picky eater). Funny thing, though, all of the small auto makers were still in business when things started picking up. Hudson, Packard, and Studebaker were still chugging along. It wasn't until the 50's when things were booming that they started going out. I wonder why?
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You talkin' to me?When I was in retail, I was at the forefront of trying to repulse government interference. But even back then, all I heard from many other retailers was competition meant " dog-eat-dog" and that was bad.. What could I do.? give everyone a lesson in free market economics? My generation was already the recipients of the philosophy of the children of the Great Depression.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And so -- what do you do? Refuse to fund the waste you see accumulating all around you? Well then, be prepared for the (in the words of Jerry Lewis) "The soldiers up the street are coming down." "They" have the military and rebellion is greatly frowned upon.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In Detroit the great family department stores have melted away like the dew on a sunny morning. The have merged, or just given up. Soon their names won't even be remembered. If you want to see their names displayed you can visit the local cemataries. J.L. Hudson merged with Dayton and eventually disappeared. No more standing under the clock at Kern's to meet someone. Some stores are not even a memory. Bye-bye to 15 story retail stores with huge elevators and elevator operators who announce each floor. Sweet memories of childhood boredom.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Outside of two years in Kalifornia's I have lived in
    The twin cites 59 years. Even with all the corruption exposed by the Clinton/Obama statists people's minds for a large part still think the dems are for the greater good. That's what I mean by brain freeze their mind is set and no facts will change it. Https://www.270towin.com/historical_m... The state has a great history of production and innovation that has been slowly suffocated by regulations and taxes. Mom and pop businesses are becoming rare and The heirs of great businesses like Gov Dayton have no clue
    What it took to accumulate the fortune they benifit from.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because while you are enjoying a "lower priced good", 85% of the federal budget is being sent to entitlements and welfare and it is definitely not a better "deal" to get some cheap shit from Walmart and send the rest of your paycheck to the government in the form of income tax to support the unemployed with. The only way we get the country out of the economic malaise is to get the able bodied working again. Michigan, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio, others are zombie economies. While the CNN-lefty argument is that we "will" sell finished goods back to the Chinese and Germany, in reality, it has never happened. They buy very little from Boeing or Caterpillar, the Chinese are building their own jumbo jets, and Germany only buys from the French government-owed Airbus because the EU tariffs the hell out of Boeing. You see... everyone else manipulates their currency quietly or openly just imposes protectionist policies. We're the only dumb-shits that don't and we send trillions a year of wealth out of the country, it shows back up in our stacking national debt.

    Complaining about something doesn't get action, Trump knows that, slap a tariff on them to get their attention. They will either adjust their behavior, or sell less, or reach a new deal.

    The Chinese have to be dealt with before they become too wealthy and too powerful. Right now they have a row boat of an aircraft carrier and a token military force, 10 years from now if unchecked, they will probably overtake us, their pace of improvement has been impressive and they steal everything they don't have.

    Millennials have no concept or recollection of full employment... we have been in a phony paper-inflated economy their entire lives. They will jump off the lefty train when they see American industry pumping at full speed for the first time in their lives.

    The old plan hasn't worked out very well.. ever since Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton jumped us on the free-trade wagon, we went from about $500 billion in national debt under Reagan to $22 trillion now. 3 years from now, 50% of Federal annual revenues will be allocated only to INTEREST on the debt. It really is time to try a different approach.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why try to punish those who subsidize their products and sell under your higher price which means that less money is available for other goods for not having to pay the unsubsidized price? They are punishing themselves already. Just buy the lower cost goods that compare in quality with the higher price good and have some money left to purchase elsewhere in those businesses which you do no see being created with the money that went toward higher priced tariffed goods.There is no fair or level playing field, just those who wish to get something that the market will not provide without force (law). If someone wants to sell at under cost, take them up on it. Their behavior will improve as the losses increase and you will be back to those higher prices that seem to be wanted by POTUS. What seems to be wanted are some kind of guaranteed jobs with wages higher than a free market would provide. That would mean those not in those by law enforced jobs would get the shaft due to less money for their employments. Of course, it will be said that the consumer will not see higher prices and that others will not get the shaft because the producer will not pass on the costs due to the tariffs.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I happen to have been born and raised in Bemidji, and have a shit-load of relatives on the iron range, and my father was from Duluth, so I spent a ton of time there as well. True, most of the iron range is fairly democrat, although a democrat in Minnesota is basically the equivalent of a moderate republican on the left coast. The majority of rural northern Minnesota is very conservative, and very pro-2nd Amendment. Most of the democrat voters are primarily uninformed and vote because that is how their parents voted, etc. There is also unfortunately a high welfare percentage, which also contributes, primarily derived from the large reservations, but also a lot of underemployed. Outside of the Twin Cities, private industry is nearly non-existent with more than 5-10 employees, if you don't own the farm or business, or work for the government, income is negligible.

    Generally, I agree on the Twin Cities.

    No idea what you are talking about with brain freeze mentality.. Minnesota has and continues to be generally in the top half-dozen in the country for quality of public education.

    If you drive across the border to Grand Forks, ND though, it's a different world (60 miles from where I grew up), ultra conservative, high incomes, pro-development, pro-NRA.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've been wrong before but Minnesota has a California envy with a brain freeze mentality. The iron range has been a Dumbocrat stronghold for decades. Obama pumped so many Somali and then burka clad Muslims to add to the previous flood of Chicago gangsters and the myopic dogooders in the twin cities.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
    What a great title. I have been called a republican because I hate what the leftist frauds are all about.
    I self describe my self as anti establishment.
    Trump has the establishment reeling .
    His resilient strength and confidence coupled with honesty and ............a true desire to improve the USA.
    The Political parties be damned
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not in all cases - nations like China subsidize industry, so the sale price of their products doesn't necessarily reflect the cost of producing it plus a reasonable profit. Their idea is to undercut competitors to the point that they capitulate. Once gone, the predator can raise prices to any level desired, control the market availability, etc.

    Genuine competition that is more efficient is good for the economy, as you say, when on a level playing field and just better at what they do. Subsidized competition damages legitimate businesses.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny how so many Americans believe that there is a money tree which will provide money for those whose jobs never are created because of the shift of money to the tariffed goods. Pay more for something and you have less money to buy from those possible new jobs which produce other goods and services. Tariffs are just an example of the broken window fallacy of seeing only the apparent and missing the unseen which no longer can come into existence.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Like a magician, he uses Twitter to misdirect. Some absurdities are there in order to piss everyone off. There's no snoozing when engaging with the Trumpster.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 7 years, 2 months ago
    shrink govt by 90%...it will shrink the problem accordingly...a reset is necessary...choose freedom
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 7 years, 2 months ago
    I see Trump's TWEETs as the modern day FDR Fireside Chat where the President CONTROLS the content without out MSM filtering. Though many of his tweets are absurd and piss me off because they cause enormous wastes of time, I'll put up with them because they piss off the librards.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The shooter in Dallas (Black Lives Matter radical) had a proclaimed effort to start a race war (or more accurately a civil war of the liberals against everyone else).
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Humor can make your point and at the same time smooth over the anger and hate, "She's so crooked that when they bury her, they'll have to screw her into the ground."
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Once upon a time, the south was awash with conservative democrats. This is no longer true. In their place, we find far left radicals. It has become the anti-American party Wishing to turn the land of George Washington into the land of George Soros.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are beginning to realize that their ideas suck and they must resort to violence. This is no longer the democratic party as we knew it in the past. This is now, the anti founder's party, they might call it the Revenant Party.
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