America’s Ebola response is ‘madness’

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 9 months ago to News
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Savage...Doctor, that is


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  • Posted by BradA 10 years, 9 months ago
    Here is my less conspiratorial theory on why these infected subjects were brought to the US. Given the rising numbers of Ebola infected victims overseas and given the ease of travel today, it seems that the most likely introduction and spread of this disease outside of Africa will come through our grossly under monitored airports or our even less monitored borders. The question seems to be less if than when. As such, the CDC probably wants to be able to observe and experiment on infected subjects using their best equipment and minds (ie. local) so as to get a handle on the disease before the inevitable.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 10 years, 9 months ago
    Paranoia or not, perhaps those infected or suspected should be treated quarantined in a hospital ship. But I guess some would consider that insensitive, impolitical, racist or some other non-sense. Some would rather put the population at risk than to be called insensitive.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 9 months ago
    Wouldn't this be the perfect time to discuss one thing Rand never once treated: how does a voluntary association of homesteaders (like the Gulch), or a state running itself along Objectivist lines, deal with communicable diseases? Does applied epidemiology have any proper place in an Objectivist state? And how would the Gulch Committee of Safety handle a contagion like this?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's the intermediate solution no one--not Donald J. Trump, not Michael Savage--mentioned. Send a hospital ship to anchor off shore, water-taxi the patient(s) out to her, and treat him/them on board.
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 10 years, 9 months ago
    Dr. Savage was once a noted member of the staff at Detrick, but he began seeing boogey men at every corner, and when you're trying to evaluate real threats, that becomes a National Security Issue.
    Ebola is an RNA - factor virus, meaning that it must have host protein to multiply. The size of the outbreak in Sierra Leon and Liberia suggest a slight mutation, that it is more viable, more motive, that, however, is in Africa.
    If you watch the Videos you'll see a major difference in the equipment used. I was horrified to see the Samaritan's Purse people in what amounts to enhanced surgical garb. They should have been in Racal3's, an overpressure suit made with anti-rip/puncture proof Kevlar and integral climate control. Why this occurred I do not know, but without doubt it enhanced the risk by 25 - 35 percent.
    Ebola, and all the Hemorrhagic fevers, while very serious, are not the threat portrayed by the braying media. Patient 0 was entered into the U.S. with the full knowledge of the best healthcare system in the world, and that system is what negates the risk by a large percentage.
    The West African who travelled to the Northeast on Saturday is quarantined. So while there is a risk, it is minimal.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Before they're dispatched to each state, they have to have a thorough exam by a medical doctor from CDC Atlanta who has worked on Ebola patients, just to make sure.

    However, we won't tell you of what they're making sure...

    And you thought all those "zombie apocalypse" movies were fiction, eh?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 9 months ago
    I was listening to Armstrong and Ghetty this morning on the way in to work. They are local guys for us. I was shocked to hear them just kind of joke about this and go on with, "I'm not worried..." When I hear media people who are known for a more conservative approach cease to use logic in things like this it catches my attention.

    There is a lot of money to be made by this. The fact that it could kill thousands of Americans doesn't matter. And, I must add...in my technical work I have done analysis of hospital design and construction - particularly of hvac and plumbing systems. I can tell you that there have been many lies already told to the public about how safely they are housing these patients. These people running this are either clueless (could be, I've seen plenty of that by doctors) or this is some planned disaster.

    This is being run by the same people who can't stop MRSA, even though the methods for doing that are simple, yet not being carried out.

    Word of advice...Hospitals are the most dangerous places you can be. If in one, get out ASAP. Feeling decent post-surgery? Get the hell out as soon as you can. Man...the stories I could share...
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It makes you wonder how many people he came in contact with and how wide it will spread. Its obvious we are not being told everything.
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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 10 years, 9 months ago
    And today breaking news out of NY. Apparently 1 of the Africans here for the Africa conference was quarantined and being tested for Ebola. Oh Great !!!!
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The best part about him is his master storytelling. He reminds me of when I grew up in NJ.
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  • Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 10 years, 9 months ago
    Our Dear Leader all but stated publicly during his campaign that he felt America needed to be take down a notch or two. Why, then, do we find these actions so strange?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 9 months ago
    His epidemiology background made Dr. Savage a must listen today.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. This disease should be kept on the African continent or on ships off the shore of Africa. But hey why not bring them here...the 100,000+ illegal children coming have a wide range of contagious diseases and they are bussed and flown to every state. Anyone else see a threat?
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 9 months ago
    It used to be hard to believe that a single person or group could do something so utterly stupid, in those end of the world type movies. It used to be.
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