America’s Ebola response is ‘madness’

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 9 months ago to News
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  • Posted by LesEolides 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK; thanks for your feedback. Who knows what really goes on... Nothing, really, would surprise me. But, since Africans (or, in America, "African Americans") are worshipped as gods on film, in the media, in sports, in modern "music" (I use the term with a smirk) and in just about every other way... and, since most "liberal" types bend over backwards to show how much they adore anything African... It seems a bit of a stretch. If, on the other hand, Americans (as with the atomic bomb, which was originally meant for use in Germany...) they were still going on about that tribe, then at least it would make cultural and historical sence. I have several old books from the WW I era... what they said about the Germans was just insane, and unbelievable by any sentient humanoid possessing even an ounce on intelligence.... Life is strange, and craziness has been the norm for at least a century.

    Regards - "Les Aeolides" - a servant of the God of the Winds in "classical" mythology... If you like classical music, google that phrase, written by the French composer Cesar Franck in 1876 after encountering the "mistral" while on vacation in the south of France... heard the music in 1978 and knew what it was about... Obviously impressed me greatly, hence my "handle" - "aeolides" being attendants to Aeolus, in Classical mythology... Guess I'm a pagan!
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  • Posted by Frank899 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I can't comment on who or what agency. There are stories of the Bill Gates Foundation operating a lab there - ostensibly to research the disease. This particular strain of Ebola is more deadly than those previously-encountered. It is also very possibly transmitted in the air. That's totally new. Google United Nations Agenda 21.
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  • Posted by LesEolides 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK... I'm no epidemiologist... are you saying that the CIA created AIDS to kill Black People... or something similar? You used the word "weaponized." If so, who did so? Define "UN Agenda 21" if you would. I'd string all of those bastards up and have them shot, were it my choice,,, guess that makes me a "War Criminal" or something...
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  • Posted by Frank899 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because this weaponized strain has a mortality rate of 90%; which is identical to the UN Agenda 21 suggested depopulation goal.
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  • Posted by LesEolides 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If one creates a "crisis" then one may use it, according to Alinsky, ("not let a crisis go to waste.") for? I will let your imagination fill in the blanks, mon ami! OK, so I can't shut up; it's about "protecting THE PEOPLE, Comrade!"
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, and that's why I disagree (virulently?) with the story that Ebola is not as contagious as I think. I have never seen a virus that wasn't particularly contagious for which the symptoms included coughing.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Any bodily fluid, and I think a cough is going to have an aerosol or droplets which would have ebola in it.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I, for one like your thinking. Start another post with this as the topic and you might get more involvement from a wider group.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Policing implies to me the old problem of the 'hammer and nail.' I would much prefer a separate community health bureau, again assuming we're talking a 'Gulch' or 'Objectivist government.'
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago
    They say that Ebola is not transmitted in airborne fashion, but isn't enough fluid transferred being coughed on?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The scariest thing about Ebola is the VERY long incubation time before symptoms show up. Four of my students are from that part of West Africa, including a very sharp Nigerian princess who is a sophomore in my research group.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. I certainly don't dispute that.

    I just wanted to address the epidemiology question, because Rand did not treat it. The closest she came to treating it was her essay on emergencies. In that essay, she defined "emergency" and suggested this was the one and only occasion in which one person owed another any favors.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd like to see it go to an essay from the Ayn Rand Institute.

    You know what the collectivists always say. They want to point to "services" the USA and most Western countries get from the government, and suggest such services would be non-existent, sub-standard, or restricted to "the rich" or their favorites. (As if that's not true today.) I aim to anticipate such arguments.

    That, by the way, is why I am on this forum. I don't object to talking about current events, even current events outside the pending release of AS3. But, given the name of this forum, we ought to be ready when the collectivists scornfully ask us, "How would YOU handle it?"
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ideally it would be outsourced to a private firm/hospital and only used as needed.

    This is interesting and all, but where's it going?
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 9 months ago
    I would just be called a conspiracy theorist for commenting, but truth is stranger than fiction.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To translate your idea into the present government system, it sounds as though you'd have a stripped-down laboratory within the FBI. (And limit the brief to communicable diseases with the most severe morbidities and the highest mortality rates.)
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why would it need to be a separate institution? Why couldn't it merely be a policing function with sub-contracting to a health entity for such evaluations?

    I'm definitely not in favor of adding any more to government than is minimally necessary to carry out on-going tasks. And those should not expand over time. If anything, they should decrease as the society becomes competent in the situation.
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