It's about to get cold in the U.S and Global warming is blamed.

Posted by Dobrien 6 years, 2 months ago to Science
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The scientist claims 300 years of data on the jet stream . I find that hard to believe.
The shift in the Jet stream is likely do to atmospheric compression as a result of a weakened Magnetisphere.

Even cold anomalies such as icicles in Houston, Tx. And snow blanketing the Sahara desert.
These are " useful" in frightening people about global warming. So today the new narrative is if the weather is hot global warming if the weather is cold ......bingo global warming.
SOURCE URL: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-26/u-s-is-about-to-get-real-cold-again-blame-it-on-global-warming


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  • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
    The point I’m making with all this is: If “the total growth response of a tree is the product of all environmental factors”, and forest modelers have to separate temperature and precipitation diameter increments, plus create different models for different forest regions, how can then one accurately divine temperature over millenia from width analysis of tree ring growth from trees in a single region?

    Or for that matter, how could anyone disentangle all the elements (temperature, precipitation, solar, shade, nutrients, etc.) and tell us it’s a proxy for the jet-stream position? The answer is: they can’t.
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    • Posted by $ Suzanne43 6 years, 2 months ago
      Spot on! According to the Lefties everything that we do contributes to global warming, even eating a sandwich is a culprit now. The Weather Channel, which is as bad as CNN, states that when it is unseasonably cold, well, that's just weather, but when it's very hot like in July, then that is definitely climate change.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 2 months ago
    After the "nuclear winter" caused by the asteroid or comet that killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, me dino recalls reading about giant snakes bigger than during the dinosaur age 50 million years ago or so before the Ice Ages cranked up.
    Today me dino sought to check out that super hot post-Mesozoic period and discovered this biased Popular Science tripe.
    https://www.popsci.com/carbon-emissio...
    Me dino used to subscribe to Popular Science until they had an article about Obama's predictions about the future.
    It included two or three full page photos of a smiling King Barry in his supposed grandeur that really turned my stomach.
    Very shortly thereafter me dino was asked to re-subscribe. No!
    Overall, the magazine were turning lib crappy anyway.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
      I have stopped National Geo and the Smithsonian for those same reasons. The constant drumbeat of man destroying the climate and planet. I'll pass on the pontification of those shrills.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 2 months ago
        I actually told Smithsonian to cancel my subscription when that rag put it out that the USA was wrong for~oh, boo hoo hoo!~nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
        I added that the nuking may have saved up to a million American lives in an effort to make Japan surrender.
        Some top Smithsonian official wrote back about how he was "good friends" with these guys "down the hall" who wrote the article. Like me dino could freaking care!
        I no longer saw that libtard magazine in the mail. That's all I cared about. .
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        • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
          I quit Nat Geo with the cover of A nine year old transgender boy/girl.

          I am interested in
          GE·og·ra·phy
          jēˈäɡrəfē/Submit
          noun
          the study of the physical features of the earth and its atmosphere, and of human activity as it affects and is affected by these, including the distribution of populations and resources, land use, and industries.
          the nature and relative arrangement of places and physical features.
          plural noun: geographies
          "knowing the geography and topology of the battlefield"
          This from the horses mouth so to speak.http://http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/03/n...
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          • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 2 months ago
            Aw, National Geographic's top people only want to be celebrated as PC and invited to all the ritzy big city cocktail parties whose armed security would not allow the NRA president to enter.
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    • Posted by $ Suzanne43 6 years, 2 months ago
      You're right! The article was tripe.
      More and more magazines are publishing meaningless garbage. I have to subscriptions up for renewal, and I'm not going to bother. I don't need to spend money on magazines with leftist propaganda. I can always tune into CNN for that. :)
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 2 months ago
        Giving msnbc a glance a few days ago, I noticed Chris Hayes still talking about Trump's collusion with Russia.
        He was completely ignoring all the new hot stuff about the corruption of the DOJ and the FBI as well as The Evil Hag paying for that dossier full of lies.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
      I did a little search and found Popular Science was purchased in 2007 by a private Swedish co. Owned by the Bonnier family with media and publications interests in 16 countries .

      The ridicules paper /article was penned for Nature Communications owned by the same German family (Hotzbrinck)hat also owns Scientific American both families are among the richest in the world. Davos types of the James Taggert ilk.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 2 months ago
        Hotzbrink, eh? I collect German surnames for that World War One novel I'm working on.
        "Hotz-brink." Say it aloud. Sounds like a good name for a villain who gets his.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
          I check the spelling my error.
          Stefan von Holtzbrinck and his half-siblings, Monika Schoeller and Dieter von Holtzbrinck, inherited publishing house Verlagsgruppe Holtzbrinck from their father Georg, who founded it as a book club in 1948.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 2 months ago
    Another biased article from never-tell-the-truth-about-anything Bloomberg.
    Look over the other tales on the Bloomberg "news" site and get a fuller understanding of biased, fake "news."
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 6 years, 1 month ago
    Robert W. Felix author of "Not by Fire But By Ice" has stated on number of radio interviews that the Earth has been warming since the last Ice Age. That man has nothing to do with this so called global warming and that the tipping point has been reach for start of a new Ice Age. Even though he is just a lay person, I believe there is truth in his writings. It's unfortunate that these climate scientists and others are so mired in the swamp of global warming they can't accept any thing else.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      Thanks old wise one for the tip. The historical evidence of a much cooler clime during Grand Solar Minimums is overwhelming.
      We are in one and the next five years will be troublesome at best.see John Caseys work in "Upheaval" John Casey, a former senior field engineer for NASA and the current CEO of the International Earthquake and Volcano Prediction Center.Jan 26, 2017
      Or Adapt 2030 David Dubyne https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-5d...
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 2 months ago
    These people are pseudo-scientists backed by ignorant NGOs. They have no patience to study the ever changing,weather that came before industry. They have a UN which is spurring them on and liberals wanting to use them to get power via control of people because of non-existent issues. Did you ever notice they usually want to control citizens and indusry, but not government. How about all those weather ontrol devices like HAARP or HAMP, which our, and many other government use to experiment with weather. They change the jet stream. They heat the ionosphere, they dump chemicals out of jets to accomplish HAMP. Yet, no mention or blame, and liberals just love to allow them to complain, without being held accountable.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
      Hi Stormi ,
      It has taken years but the cat is now out of the bag on the Chemtrails. Most folks don't know or notice the checkerboard to milky haze of Chemtrails that remain long after the jet is gone.
      I notice them in car commercials tv shows that are shot out side. These people should be executed.

      The bigger culprit I believe is the weakened Magnetisphere this allows the atmosphere to be compressed at the poles and the intertropical convergence zone by the solar wind that hits it at about 900 kilometers a second when coronal dark holes face the Earth .it takes about 36 hrs or so to arrive. The low pressure convergences can create a virtual River in the sky as we have seen many many examples of in the last year. One is expected mid week in New Zealand see this
      https://youtu.be/ZHLABGV67KE
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 2 months ago
        We just can't expect every government from the US to Britain, to Russia, and more to tamper with the weather and expect it to be all good, esp. when they are not even sure of the outcomes.
        The most frightening thing I have seen in the Midwest was a sky full of HAARP clouds. Row after row of perfectly spaced and sized clouds, like cylinders, row after row, filling the sky above WalMart. That afternoon we had a terrible storm that took down many mature trees,
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        • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
          Holy Toledo,
          For the first time in quite a while since mid December no zigzagging back and forth high altitude jets leaving trails on our clear days. See my recent post on new Geoengineering plans.
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  • Posted by skidance 6 years, 2 months ago
    I don't suppose they realize that parts of the Arctic had very little ice during Ice Ages....
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    • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
      Hi skidance,
      They realize, it just doesn't fit the narrative. But that is a good point. Keep in mind the pole is shifting rapidly.
      What do you think about tree rings showing jet stream patterns? See my comment below.
      Regards ,
      DOB
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      • Posted by skidance 6 years, 2 months ago
        Yes, I know that the poles are shifting, I think to the northeast. It seems to me that that would cause a tilt in that direction for our portion of the northern hemisphere. BTW, I thought this was going on quite a few years ago, before I became involved with blogs such as this. Please educate me about tree rings and jet stream patterns, although it would seem to me that meridional patterns would cause shifting areas of warmth/dry and colder/wet. I have no scientific background, but am fascinated with the climate issue. As a result, I've learned a fair amount, but am always open to new information.
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        • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
          The task is hugely full of uncertainty. And when the lead researcher cores a tree that has one side that has obviously been shaded by another adjacent tree, as seen in the press release photo, that introduces a bias that has absolute nothing to do with the jet-stream, temperature, and precipitation. Or for that matter, how could anyone disentangle all the elements (temperature, precipitation, solar, shade, nutrients, etc.) and tell us it’s a proxy for the jet-stream position? The answer is: they can’t.
          If Truett pre-selected trees that looked like, which she seems to be doing in the photo, she’s no better than the flawed science of the Yamal fiasco where a single tree biased the entire temperature record.

          Further, it seems she didn’t pay attention to recent literature, such as Briffa and Melvin, 2011 and Brienen et al., 2012a,b

          Basically, older trees grow slower, and that mimics the temperature signal paleo researchers like Mann look for. Unless you correct for this issue, you end up with a false temperature signal, like a hockey stick in modern times. Separating a valid temperature signal from the natural growth pattern of the tree becomes a larger challenge with this correction.…

          Dendrochronologists observed that the older a tree was, the slower it tended to grow, even after controlling for age- and time-driven effects. The result is an artificial downward signal in the regional curve (as the older ages are only represented by the slower growing trees) and a similar artificial positive signal in the final chronology (as earlier years are only represented by the slow growing trees), an effect termed modern sample bias. When this biased chronology is used in climate reconstruction it then implies a relatively unsuitable historic climate. Obviously, the detection of long term 15 trends in tree growth, as might be caused by a changing climate or carbon fertilization, is also seriously compromised (Brienen et al., 2012b). More generally, modern sample bias can be viewed as a form of “differing-contemporaneous-growth-rate bias”, where changes in the magnitude of growth of the tree ring series included in the chronology over time (or age, in the case of the regional curve) skew the final curve, especially 20 near the ends of the chronology where series are rapidly added and removed (Briffa and Melvin, 2011).
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        • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
          The pole shift will not cause a shift or tilt of the continent The biggest concern is as the poles reverse the Magnetisphere weakens as it is doing now that is our shield from solar and cosmic debris. Cosmic rays help form clouds this shades the planet and does not allow as much of the radiance to warm thins up.

          Our technology definitely would be in danger, however. Even now, solar storms can damage satellites, cause power outages and interrupt radio communications. These kinds of negative influences clearly will increase if the magnetic field and thus its shielding function became significantly weaker, e.g. during a reversal, and it will be important to find mitigation strategies,

          One additional worry is that a weakening and eventual reversal in the field would disorient all those species that rely on geomagnetism for navigation, including bees, salmon, turtles, whales, bacteria and pigeons. There is no scientific consensus on how those creatures would cope.

          Continental shifts?

          Many of the disaster scenarios associated with geomagnetic pole reversals in popular imagination are pure fantasy, the scientists said. There definitely won't be any break-up or shift of the continents.
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  • Posted by wiggys 6 years, 2 months ago
    since the sun is the primary controller of the weather on the planet therefore the source of the cold does come from the heat of the sun.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
      Hi Wiggys,
      This might interest you. This link is regarding cosmic rays and the formation of clouds.
      The Earths Magnetisphere has been rapidly weakening, it is the shield blocking those rays.
      http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/n...
      The most obvious way for warming to be caused naturally is for small, natural fluctuations in the circulation patterns of the atmosphere and ocean to result in a 1% or 2% decrease in global cloud cover. Clouds are the Earth’s sunshade, and if cloud cover changes for any reason, you have global warming — or global cooling.”
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 2 months ago
    What do you get when you add energy to a chaotic system?

    1. At STP, a fire of 500 F will never heat water past 212 F. Therefore, scientisits lie about thermodynamics.

    2. Pluto was a planet. Then it was not. Now, it might be, again...
    (Johns Hopkins U doctoral candidate's conference poster presentation here:
    https://hub.jhu.edu/2017/03/16/make-p.... )
    (Even NASA does not know.
    https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstud... )

    3. I have a relative who is a Born Again Christian. He is raising his children that way, of course. I saw a book in his home arguing against science. It showed a skieleton of a large herbivore dinosaur, like a brontosaurus, and then a recreation of that beast. It then showed a skeleton of a dog and next to it a Dr. Seuss-like cartoon of a dog, with purple tufts, etc. Scientists claim all kinds of things they cannot prove, said the book.

    My point here is that taking one aspect of a complicated problem and its proposed solution(s), and arguing out of context, does not disprove the inititial assumptions. The easy assumptions - impossible to ignore are that (1) local weather changes (2) climate changes and (3) no less than the trees, human activity is affected by and in turn affects both local weather and global climate.

    One of my liberal comrades who has 40 IQ points on me said that when he finally gets a conservative to agree to the facts about global warming, the response is to get more guns and go higher into the mountains. That is not quite my own response, but it is in the ballpark. My liberal comrade is sad because we lack "the political will" to do something about global warming. The other side of that coin is that he readily agrees that increased carbon dioxide will make the plants happy and we will have more food from some regions and that is good. So, for myself, I am not too concerned about the "lack of political will."

    Nonetheless, it moves.
    ("Eppur si muove" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_yet...
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    • Posted by Lucky 6 years, 2 months ago
      " it moves" Is that the same thing as a shifty?
      Point 3) for example, is a statement so vague that it can only have significance as rhetoric leading to a plea to do something about it. But there is no 'it'.

      High, or low, IQ has no correlation to honesty, high IQ may confer the ability to concoct better lies.

      'What do you get when you add energy to a chaotic system?'
      The implication is you get more extremes, but more data points from the same population lead to more records being broken, more extremes. Thus, point not confirmed.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 2 months ago
        Not to mention if that "high IQ" is the result of compartmentalization of bullcrap versus valid knowledge or Integration of valid knowledge...I'll stick with the latter regardless of the overall score.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 2 months ago
      What the left seems to forget to separate is "Environment". (as in the troposphere where we live) and "Climate" (long term weather patterns), have virtually nothing to do with one another.

      Has, governments, bad regulations, bad bureaucracies, cronies, ignorant industrialist,(and I don't mean that in a negative way, there are lots of things we didn't and still don't know about the consequences of what we do on our local environment), and the effects of large city's, ruined our environment?...absolutely.
      Has that changed the weather?...absolutely NOT!
      Do the cities, black top highways, cement all over the place create temperature variations locally...Yes...does that change the weather?...NO it does not.

      The other nonsense about how clouds and storms form by "evaporation" is just that...nonsense. Any humidity, temperature variations or localized evaporation does not cause rain storms. They create fog or that thick haze we see in the summers and that only is in the lowest parts of the troposphere.
      Clouds, rain and storms are created at the tropospheric/stratospheric boundary layer and the main driver is cosmic radiation and solar radiation interactions with our ionosphere which creates hydrogen and oxygen which accumulates on natural aerosols in our stratosphere together with upper and lower atmosphere wind patterns. (as best as I understand it)

      So, is it warming globally?..no. Has mankind caused some localized weather patterns (tornadoes) (strip mining of mountains) or (cities) to change...yes.

      Has any of these things caused a major shift in climate patterns, mean temperature and cycles over time...NO.
      The cycles come and go, just like they always have and we have yet to know nor account for all of them.
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    • Posted by 6 years, 2 months ago
      The task is hugely full of uncertainty. And when the lead researcher cores a tree that has one side that has obviously been shaded by another adjacent tree, as seen in the press release photo, that introduces a bias that has absolute nothing to do with the jet-stream, temperature, and precipitation. If Truett pre-selected trees that looked like, which she seems to be doing in the photo, she’s no better than the flawed science of the Yamal fiasco where a single tree biased the entire temperature record.

      Further, it seems she didn’t pay attention to recent literature, such as Briffa and Melvin, 2011 and Brienen et al., 2012a,b

      Basically, older trees grow slower, and that mimics the temperature signal paleo researchers like Mann look for. Unless you correct for this issue, you end up with a false temperature signal, like a hockey stick in modern times. Separating a valid temperature signal from the natural growth pattern of the tree becomes a larger challenge with this correction.…

      Dendrochronologists observed that the older a tree was, the slower it tended to grow, even after controlling for age- and time-driven effects. The result is an artificial downward signal in the regional curve (as the older ages are only represented by the slower growing trees) and a similar artificial positive signal in the final chronology (as earlier years are only represented by the slow growing trees), an effect termed modern sample bias. When this biased chronology is used in climate reconstruction it then implies a relatively unsuitable historic climate. Obviously, the detection of long term 15 trends in tree growth, as might be caused by a changing climate or carbon fertilization, is also seriously compromised (Brienen et al., 2012b). More generally, modern sample bias can be viewed as a form of “differing-contemporaneous-growth-rate bias”, where changes in the magnitude of growth of the tree ring series included in the chronology over time (or age, in the case of the regional curve) skew the final curve, especially 20 near the ends of the chronology where series are rapidly added and removed (Briffa and Melvin, 2011).
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  • Posted by illucio 6 years, 1 month ago
    Global Warming is REAL. The Glaciars are melting AND dissapearing. Viedma Glaciar AND Perito Moreno are about to suspend their ice trekking tours because of this. In Chaltén last winter there was hardly any snow, being it normal to have over three feet of snow during three consecutive months. Science Is accurate, scientists don't "make things UP".

    Low temperatures are the following step un this cycle, since the Glaciars liquidification generates a change in ocean currents AND sea level rises. Deny this all you like, but Carbon Dioxide AND Monoxide have densed the ozone producing a more severe Greenhouse Effect. Thus, the geothermal balance is shifted AND the biosphere, altered.
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    • Posted by $ Stormi 6 years, 1 month ago
      So, you are still worried about CO2, while the UN stated it no longer crs if global warming is true, as long as people believe it is, and they can control them. I the condition you suggest is accurate, why are scientists in Calif. shooting water and crushed clay into the ionosphere, to block sun Rays, and create cooling, according to them. Climate has always "changed", and some of the extremes have been pre-industrialization. Why was it so necessary for the data to sell warming to the public, that scientist planted heat tracking monitors where they knew the reading would be scewed - like in enclosed courtyards surrounded by brick and pavement, where jet engines threw air on them on runways? How does Gore's swapping "carbon credits" help anyone, if the weather is international, and still affection the atmosphere?
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    • Posted by 6 years, 1 month ago
      After a two-month summer drought, combined with very high temperatures, several small fires started in the pine forests of Pine County, Minnesota. The fires' spread apparently was due to the then-common method of lumber harvesting, wherein trees were stripped of their branches in place; these branches littered the ground with flammable debris. Also contributing was a temperature inversion that trapped the gases from the fires. The scattered blazes united into a firestorm.[3] The temperature rose to at least 2,000 °F (1,100 °C). Barrels of nails melted into one mass, and in the yards of the Eastern Minnesota Railroad, the wheels of the cars fused with the rails.[4] Some residents escaped by climbing into wells, ponds, or the Grindstone River. Others clambered aboard two crowded trains that pulled out of the threatened town minutes ahead of the fire. September 1 , 1891.
      The world's first purpose built gas station was constructed in St. Louis, Missouri in 1905 at 420 S. Theresa Avenue. The second gas station was constructed in 1907 by Standard Oil of California (now Chevron) in Seattle, Washington at what is now Pier 32.
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