Florida to Vote on Letting Convicted Felons Vote (1.5 Million new voters)

Posted by CaptainKirk 2 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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Hopefully we vote this down. Now there are 2 sides to this argument.

1) They paid their dues, they should get the right to vote.
2) There is a long process they should follow, that already exists!
(We believe the democrats BROKE this process to make it slower, in order to get this to be an issue)

Since the ACLU is funding this, and we know that the majority of these people will vote democrat.
This could stop Florida from being a swing state if they actually vote.

My problem with this is 3 fold:
1) We should make them be out at least through the recidivism rate where 80% get convicted again
2) They should have to fully pay ALL victim restitution, or they did not complete their sentence!
3) Are these the citizens we truly want deciding our elections?

So lets review:
- Amnesty for all (to help the democrats)
- Ex Cons to vote (Excluding Murderers/Rapists)
- 100,000 Puerto Ricans brought to Florida, given voting rights
- Sanctuary Counties so illegals have a safe place to hide/work between elections
- Election Registration Processes, where they are NOT ALLOWED to verify citizenship by process!
(You just take the persons word for it)
SOURCE URL: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-florida-felon-voting-rights-on-ballot-20180123-story.html

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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 2 years, 9 months ago
    One day, a liberal read this: "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism—by vote. .." (AR) and thought, "That's it!! All we have to do is get voters!!"........ and that is what they are doing......
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  • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 years, 9 months ago
    The "uncivil War" rages on .We are being subverted on all fronts. From DACA to Universities , media to EPA, NSA, DOJ , FBI, NASA and NOAA(climate data fraud)
    Sanctuary cities ,Obama , John Kerry interfering with the presidents foreign policy like they never left office, the 9th circuit court. Minnesota and Maine flooded with NAfricans from shitholes with zero assimilation efforts. Millions of ilegal aliens now given access to vote in Kaliphukedupia through registration of drivers license s. We simply are getting our asses kicked and thank you President Trump for finally fighting back.
    Our Country has become a disgrace.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 2 years, 9 months ago
    I will do my part to vote this ridiculousness down. The petition process is a valid one in the State of Florida. Most, but certainly not all, such petitions lose because of the 60% requirement, but on its 2nd try, medical marijuana passed via this strategy in 2017.

    MANY (several hundred thousand, not the 100 thousand in the post) Puerto Ricans quite reasonably moved from Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria to the Orlando area (about an hour west of me). The 100,000 is just within the Orlando area that the Orlando Slantinel story reaches.

    The area all around my little paradise just north of Melbourne, Florida may be overrun by Demoncats (er, Democrats) soon.
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  • Posted by dark_star 2 years, 9 months ago
    There are an awful lot of "Felonies" today. Here's a few examples:

    Drug abuse violations - Think of the lives ruined with the war on drugs.

    Driving while Intoxicated - Unconstitutional DUI stops looking for "Buzzed" drivers who simply fail ever decreasing blood alcohol levels.

    Assault - Ever been in a bar fight?

    Disorderly conduct - Yes, acting out can be charged as a Felony

    Liquor laws - Gotta be sure no one cuts into the government's take on liquor sales taxes.

    Drunkenness - Careful at that 4th of July party ....

    Vandalism - Cause you know young adults never do stupid things - Lets mark them for life.

    Weapons violations - Doesn't have to be a violent crime, it can be related to carrying / storing / transporting / etc. of a firearm, wrong kind of knife, etc.

    Stolen property - Doesn't necessarily mean you were involved in an actual theft, you could run into this by unknowingly purchasing stolen property.

    Seems all it takes to become a Felon these days is running into a overzealous prosecutor while being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Not a problem until it happens to you or one of your own.

    It'd be nice to see the only people labeled as "Felons" for the rest of their lives be what most of us actually think of when someone says Felony - But that simply isn't the case today....
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    • Posted by 2 years, 9 months ago
      Dark_Star, I agree with you. My issue is that they are making it automatic. the current process is the straighten up, and go in and apply, and stand before a judge who can see your records.

      I think there should be a statute of limitations on having to keep the label of Ex Con.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 2 years, 9 months ago
    we started out as a republic where only property or working individuals earned the right to vote...anyone who has a felony conviction or on welfare or food stamps or other taxpayer assistance should be required to pay it back with interest before they can earn back the right to vote...
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  • Posted by lscott300 2 years, 9 months ago
    What If? Could we petition the courts to have the judge make the decision for voting rights once a sentence is completed? If you think of it logically, when a felon has completed a sentence they should be reinstated as normal voting entities. Should this be a new protocol in which felons should apply to be able to vote?? As the mother of a former dumb 21 yr old felon who is also now a republican 10 yrs later... at what point do they "stop" paying... And NO, they are not all democrats.
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    • Posted by 2 years, 9 months ago
      BTW, that process is what exists today. My former boss kept his nose clean for 5 years after probation, petitioned the court, it took another year or two, and bam... He had his rights restored.

      They feel it should be automatic. I feel they should have to APPLY for it, and SHOW they have made FULL Restitution, and they are well passed any high recidivism rates (5yr mark, typically)
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  • Posted by Herb7734 2 years, 9 months ago
    That's the Eastern part of Florida.It's where the former residents of NYC and Shapeless Mass are from. That's why it is called New York with short sleeves.However, I think the genuine Floridians (anyone not liberal) will prevail. .
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  • Posted by chad 2 years, 9 months ago
    When it comes to elections (approving the use of violence by certain individuals) only those who would vote to protect liberty should be allowed to vote. This means almost no one should vote. If an individual is voting to use violence to impose the will of the majority they should not be electable or voters.
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    • Posted by 2 years, 9 months ago
      actually, I think our forefathers had it right.
      Only land owners should vote.
      They have ownership to protect.
      Renters? Nope. Assisted Living? Nope.

      We seem to be finding more looters to vote for more looting.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 2 years, 9 months ago
    Since the government(s) have criminalized most behavior, and once a person has "paid society" for any transgression, shouldn't ALL rights be restored?
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    • Posted by 2 years, 9 months ago
      This is the question. I think we have 80% of felons are convicted of another felony within 5 years of getting out. In some cases, they are being LEFT OUT of society because nobody wants to hire an ex-con (Hollywood, Music, and DC are taking them with open arms: Birds of a feather...)

      When exactly have they "paid society". They "served their time". Did they pay full restitution? And then, because THEY brought them on themselves, a waiting period to make sure they are ABLE and WILLING to participate in society within the rules. Then apply and get your rights back.

      It was to serve as an additional DETERRENT, and should be. It makes you apply for your RIGHT to vote again. Saying "Okay, I get it now. I'm Ready!".

      Replacing that with a rubber stamp? "Served your time" and "Ready to be a good Citizen" are 2 different standards. (The left will argue, nobody else has to be good, blah blah blah).
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      • Posted by Esceptico 2 years, 9 months ago
        With all due respect, I have met many felons who did not “bring it on themselves” and were simply targeted. For an example in the news, look at the Mueller investigation. When so many activities are classified as crimes, as they are today, one can innocently commit a crime --- especially in the tax world. Not to mention laws that are bad, such as the drug laws, contribute to the statistics. In other instances, it is through complete incompetence of the police and they charge an innocent person. The way the system works is the guy gets “sandbagged” with many charges and even though innocent will plead to one charge to get the others dismissed because the risk is too large and the cost of defense too high in money to go to trial. One cannot always apply for the right to vote again, it depends upon the jurisdiction.
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