The Coming Civil War

Posted by khalling 13 years, 7 months ago to Government

interesting opinion piece by Arthur Herman. I read his book,"Freedom's Forge: How American Business Produced Victory in World War II" (Random House May 2012). It was really good

SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/03/were-now-one-step-closer-to-america-coming-civil-war/?intcmp=obnetwork

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Posted by UncommonSense 13 years, 7 months ago

"Experience teaches that those who believe in free markets are right" ~ Duh!

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Posted by terrycan 13 years, 7 months ago

I see two very dangerous groups here. First is the multigeneration welfare people. They view the money as a right. Second is the OWS brats who never heard the word no. When the free money stops both these groups will get violent quickly.

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  Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago
  
  The pitchfork wielding, torch bearers slavering for a victim(s) have found their targets. Anyone who has what they don't. The true nightmare is on a roll. Constitution be damned.
  
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  Posted by UncommonSense 13 years, 7 months ago
  
  Absolutely. Well said. Thanks.
  
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Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago

I haven't read this yet, but just based on your comment, I've been feeling a sense of disquiet about this society, and the direction it seems to be heading in. The storm is brewing, and those of us who can need to act fast before the serious looting starts.

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  Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago
  
  "Act"...?
  
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    Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago
    
    Raid Walmart's ammo aisle, stock up on non perishables, fuel up the car, drain bank accts and move money offshore. Oh, and feed the cat. I had to put something goofy in there...
    
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      Posted by khalling 13 years, 7 months ago
      
      assume the banks might be drained before you drain your accounts. the money should be mostly offshore now, remember 2008? 1929?
      
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      Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago
      
      That's pretty much all done already...almost.. No cat here...just dogs. We're on the same page....
      
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        Posted by kathywiso 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        and dog food....
        
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        Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        Check! :)
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        And after the run on dog/cat food, resort to good old shells for supper. 22's work, and the furry friends get fresh meat.
        
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      Posted by UncommonSense 13 years, 7 months ago
      
      About moving $$ offshore, I believe most banks (like the Caribbean) have a way high minimum amount before they accept money, if you choose to remain living in the U.S. You may want to check on that.
      
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Posted by WWJGD 13 years, 7 months ago

Very well said, thanks for posting. And something that I've been saying for some time now. Except that Mr. Herman actually has credibility...

Here's another point for you, my dear.

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  Posted by khalling 13 years, 7 months ago
  
  thank you
  
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Posted by jmlesniewski 13 years, 7 months ago

Beneath the rhetoric about war is a really important point, that this is a battle over who gets the money, those who have earned it or government officials who seek to take it from them. It's because the debate is focused on the same modality since the beginning of human existence--the haves vs have-nots. The people in Washington think if they aren't the haves, they'll be oppressed, which means when they become the haves, they'll oppress the have-nots. It's a scary bit of twisted psychology.

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Posted by khalling 13 years, 7 months ago

I think this is why people like Glenn Beck encourage moving away from cities. I just see the looting being worse in large urban centers. This is kinda interesting. Note where Walmart has placed their distribution centers across the country. There are many reasons for the choices, but some should be on our minds in preparation for possible rioting and looting.

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  Posted by eilinel 13 years, 7 months ago
  
  For the most part, I think GB is correct, but I live in a rural area that also has a large proportion of those multigeneration welfare families. I'm a little nervous.
  
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    Posted by khalling 13 years, 7 months ago
    
    interesting. that is something you will have to consider. but before the govt slows and then stops payments altogether, the private sector businesses without govt connections will be mostly gone.
    
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      Posted by eilinel 13 years, 7 months ago
      
      Not sure what you're saying.
      This is farm country, and lots of people still know how to garden, can, and process hogs, but when the checks slow down/stop the parasites will be on the hunt.
      
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        Posted by khalling 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        also, in farm country, farmers have a huge government connection. so it will take longer than in other areas of the country. But it seems unusual to me that you say farm country and lots of parasites. I'm from Iowa, and the economy is booming there. It's as if a recession never happened. Food prices are up due to inflation and subsidies are stronger than ever. There are people on welfare everywhere, but I think the % is lower than many other places. I'm having a hard time imagining large pockets of multigenerational welfare families. I'm sure they exist, but it sure wasn't the thing to do where I grew up.
        
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        Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        Ever been to Michigan? There's some pockets...big, deep ones too. I'm pretty sure they're all over. We're for suredly out numbered by far.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        Too scary that it's true.
        
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        Posted by WWJGD 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        eilinel is from a DIFFERENT farm country, kh.
        
        Y'all ever been in the South?
        
        Yup. Been there, seen that.
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        Where there are no family "trees", just family "sticks", as in no branches. Shared tooth for Saturday nights... From Pittsburgh originally, grew up and went to college in Virginia. Unfortunately, the folks in Richmond think the "wawah" is still on.
        
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        Posted by WWJGD 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        Uh, I thought they were, uh, family "circles"...
        
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        Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 7 months ago
        
        Lol!
        
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Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago

Well, unleashing the Racial-Preferences Juggernaut should help, at least. (Total sarcasm...did I really need to specify this?)

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Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago

This is pretty much what I see happening :( (I had a talk with a co worker, at my old job so it was like 12 years ago, about this very thing. Welfare is just to keep the mayhem at bay...but how long can we afford it?)

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  Posted by UncommonSense 13 years, 7 months ago
  
  To answer your last question: Till the Producers say "WE QUIT".
  
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    Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 7 months ago
    
    I know the answer....I was quoting myself from a 12 year old conversation...but I forgot the quotation marks..sorry. :)
    
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