Kansas Forces Craigslist Sperm Donor to Pay Child Support For Child of Lesbian Couple

Posted by khalling 12 years, 4 months ago to Government
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I'm not sure which angle to even begin with here. Welfare, sexuality identification, state over reach....
I'll pick this: If you get your sperm donor from Craigslist, your kid might have huge health bills
Also, I almost can't pick a category. I almost picked pics (because the pictures are kind of entertaining) :)

Read "Kansas Forces Craigslist Sperm Donor to Pay Child Support For Child of Lesbian Couple" now: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Okay...I'm off to call my gay aunt, and her x lover (who is now married to a man) and let them know that WWJGD, on an Atlas forum, has declared me a bigot in denial. They will laugh their asses off. Oh, no, wait...they'll TITTER their asses off.

    (WWJGD...seriously, who's judging who here??)
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  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Short answer: yes. Which is why I've been beating this now-dead horse.

    You're obviously not aware of it, and meant no malice. But it's still rather apparent in your original remarks.
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  • Posted by $ jmlesniewski 12 years, 4 months ago
    I'm not sure how the couple being lesbians ISN'T relevant. If gays are supposed to be able to adopt or have kids on their own (via egg or sperm donation), why should the donor ever be responsible for the child? Also, if these were two gay men and the donor was a female, would she ever be asked to pay child support?
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  • Posted by $ Maree 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The serious posts are what makes this a terrific forum. Hey I may not reply but I do ponder and appreciate your posts NMA
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are adopted kids mentioned in this article. Why are you not incensed that we've been laughing?
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've done the same thing. The posts that I thought would engage some commentary just fizzled. The company picnic, however....
    This is just bizarre to me, though. I'm adopted, and I can't even imagine my parents trying to squeeze child support out of my birth mother or father, whoever they are! I mean come on! Stop having kids if money is tight!
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I did NOT make fun...I mentioned it, as a point of reference...not the same thing. Do you honestly think I've got some vendetta against gays/bi's/or straight men? (Gotta cover all involved in this story). I want an honest answer.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They're sex lives weren't relevant to the burglary.... not the same kind of "personal story". How could one tell their (the craigslist) story without their sexual orientation being apparent? It was PART of the story.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wasn't even going to go there with the 9th kid on the way possibly...I noticed his hand too. Yes...they've brought this attention onto themselves...
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    e)they were together a total of 8 years, collected 7 kids, had a sperm donated eighth kid THEN broke up- f) the guy who the mom has now hooked up with has his hand over her belly like she's having a 9th kid(there was no mention of that in the article-I'm waiting for that to come out) g) went out of their way to be in the limelight.
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  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uh huh. You do not care what their sexual preferences are, yet you make fun of a woman who "swings both ways."

    Remember what Francisco D'Anconia said about contradictions...
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  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and I LOVE Stupid Burglar stories!

    Thank you for noticing that nothing was mentioned of the burglars' sex lives. That's the way it should be. It's funny because of what they DID, not because of what they ARE.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The lack of stability was a) adopting more kids than you can handle (in my opinion....8? yikes), b)seeking a sperm donor on Craigslist.. c) revealing said sperm donors name (when that was supposed to stay private!!) to gain financial aide, and d) on the part of the donor... for donating his sperm via Craigslist. THOSE were my issues that showed a lack of stability in a person's decision making, none of which has anything to do with being gay or straight or Bi or "scapegoated gender" or anything else. She revealed his name when SHE got the State involved (they weren't involved until then). Who's the "third party who thinks all of this is funny"????
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They chose to make this public-ALL of them. There are also consequences for that.
    that said, this is hardly a proud post. It's at the top of Hot and I have serious, well reasoned posts that completely bombed in here. I should have included pictures with them maybe
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  • Posted by 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I do not titter. I full out laugh. You're a photographer-use your critical eye. we all have dopey pics of ourselves-that they picked those(including the sperm donor's) to share with the newspaper makes me laugh. get over it already.
    I do not care what their sexual preferences are. But I can look at public information like 8 kids in an 8 year period then a big split on welfare as probably not the most rational plan. and I can laugh at it. the story would still be rich if it were a hetero couple who got sperm from a craigslist donor with the same pictures! if it makes you feel better, I hope the sperm donor wins his case against the state. That'll teach the state to not let people adopt 8 kids in 8 years who are on welfare.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just posted an article about two really stupid burglars in Australia...I tittered when I read it (What the hell is tittering anyway?...I fricken laughed, okay?)..they made bad choices and it got press...and there was no mention of them being gay..or bi. Just a couple of stupid straight guys. They threw spark plugs at a window to try and break it... c'mon, LAUGH! Okay..I'm done defending myself. I'll laugh (titter) at whatever I want. You are not the boss of me. THththththrppppppt!
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  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Again, the Real Story here is the overreach of the State into someone's private affairs, not sitting in judgement of someone because their standards for "stability" etc. are different than yours (note that the women were in a committed, monogamous relationship, which seems to fit most people's definition of "stable" -- except for the small matter of them being a same-sex couple...).

    If the State didn't offer charity, paid for by forcing money from others at gunpoint, didn't interfere in private contracts through Draconian "child support" laws, and didn't blatantly violate the 14th Amendment by bringing the full force of the State down upon a certain scapegoated gender...

    ... then everyone would be better off. The man's rights wouldn't have been violated, the mother would be forced to either find work or go to a proper agent of charity (i.e., one whose donors are voluntary), and all would be facing the consequences of their own poor choices, which would be defined in their own terms rather than a third party who thinks all of this is funny.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've "tittered" over plenty of pictures. Sometimes pictures are humorous. I've seen some great Red Neck ones which made me "titter" all over the place and I'm probably borderline Red neck myself (shall I say I swing both ways in the Red Neck world??) I've "tittered" over those pictures that people take on the sly of other people while they're in WalMart too THEY'RE FUNNY!!...Stop trying to make things about an issue that you're sensitive about... And BTW...I think your choice of the word "tittered" was extremely offensive, like I'm some dumb woman without a brain. (Not really, just trying to make a point.) Relax WWJGD...I'm not a hater. If you're hell bent on making me out to be one...then go for it. I don't seek your approval...nor do I need it, but I'd rather we be friends. :)
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