LIBERTY LOVERS SHOULDN'T SUPPORT TRUMP JUST BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF LEFTISTS

Posted by $ haseloff 7 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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LIBERTY LOVERS SHOULDN'T SUPPORT TRUMP JUST BECAUSE HE PISSES OFF LEFTISTS


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Can you explain your statement "It is at the expense of the individual that he is undoing the continued growth of the state"? It seems without logical or factual foundation.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Emotions aside, I took the time to read Hillary's policy statement on her web site, and that was the basis for my judgement that she was dangerous to the survival of the republic. She was essentially declaring open borders, eviscerating the American military, increasing taxes across the board (even for low wage earners, by increasing the payroll tax), crushing the energy industry, and acceding authority to globalist organizations.

    The Donald made my skin crawl at times with his outrageous statements (I am a Rand Paul supporter), but his policy objectives didn't pose the outright threat to our continued well being that Hillary's did. The choice was obvious, and I haven't regretted it.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 4 months ago
    No, that is not why I support him, even though he is semi-unsupportable in some areas due to his childish statements.

    I support Trump because he is reducing the scope of government beyond any previous President. I never thought he would be this good at this, but he is better than just about any of the other candidates we pondered, except perhaps the irritating Mr. Cruz, but we'll never know now.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 7 years, 4 months ago
    You are right. There are a lot of other reasons to support Trump. Like his track record of 2017, which is better than any other president. While the sanctimonious complained nonstop about Trump’s tweeting, Trump accomplished an incredible amount of good things even Objectivists can support during his first year as president. The Washington Examiner counted an impressive 81 major achievements and another 100 minor achievements. Some of the largest include substantial tax cuts, increasing U.S. energy production, revoking 22 regulations for every new one, and getting Neil Gorsuch confirmed. He appointed more judges to the federal appellate courts than any other president during their first year and reduced illegal immigration. I wake up every morning happy Trump is president and not Hillary. Now if Trump will get wobbly-knee and spineless Sessions to do his job he will put some major former players in prison. 2018 can be even better.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maybe I should have sympathy for a sick in the head often smiling back at you sociopath, but I just can't bubble any up for the "What difference does it at this point make?" Bloody Benghazi Bitch and Crooked Cackles of the Clinton Crime Cartel Foundation.
    Her when a candidate "I dream of open borders" statement scared me into getting a 9mm carbine with two 30-round clips.
    I named it "The Evil Hag." I've only taken it out of hiding to look at it once since she lost the election.
    I still buy 9mm bullets though.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regulatory cutbacks, some return of national monument land, reduction in the power of the EPA, removal of much of the emphasis on "Climate Change", lower corporate taxes. And he's just getting started.

    Is he a libertarian? No, he's lived his entire life in New York and is probably pretty liberal in attitudes.

    While in theory Congress defines what the government can and cannot do, the regulatory state really runs things and anything that can be done to decrease their power is, in my opinion, a good thing.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Where is your sympathy for Hillary Clinton who not only took abuse from the Republicans and conservatives (as expected) but was accused by the Bernie Sanders wing of her party of collaborating with billionaires against the interests of the American people. She held up pretty well, smiling throught the campaign, until the unkindest cut of all on election night. Was she a rock for you?
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    (1) Interesting misplaced modifier:
    "... he is undoing the continual growth of the state at the expense of the individual." It is at the expense of the individual that he is undoing the continued growth of the state.

    (2) However, I doubt that that is true. Name one thing that President Trump has done to "undo the continued growth of the state."

    (3) If anything, his proposals from the Border Wall to tariffs on imports and taxes on corporations are very much a promise to continue the expansion of government.

    (4) Congress, staring with the House of Representatives, makes the budget that defines what government can and cannot do. The President signs it or vetoes it, but he has no power to initiate anything except by moral persuasion, pretty much just like you but with a megaphone.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Best president in my lifetime.
    Is he perfect? hell no , but he has stood up to the established swamp. He recognizes the disadvantage the USA has with trade and he sees the global warming for what it is . A phony premise that is meant to extract wealth from The USA. He has told the UN to stick it where the sun Don't shine. He has called out the fake news. Thanks Mr President.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    President Trump could say the same things if he had won as a Democrat. He was a Democrat most of his adult life. He chose to run as a Republican because it was an under-served market with weak providers. He did not run as a Democrat because Hillary Clinton had that market as a near-monopoly.

    President Trump is no more emotionally committed to your issues than he is to a golf course or a hotel.
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    Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep, it's not who he pisses off that me dino likes most about The Donald.
    It is his willingness to stand up hard like a boulder against a horrendous crap storm of defamation 24/7 being hurled at him from every direction.
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    Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 4 months ago
    No, you should support him because he is undoing the continual growth of the state at the expense of the individual. Up to now, it's been a matter of how fast the state grows. How much regulation gets added each year -- by both parties.

    His force of personality and willingness to stand up to the combined effort of the establishment is more important than his ideological purity. We didn't get to this place in one step by one president, we won't get out of it in one step either.
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