Interesting quiz, but too limited for my tastes. There are a lot more issues than just five in each area which flavor one's stand. Thanks for the link!
I have always known this intuitively because of my base of identified values, but I did not know the history of fascism or Nazism. Now I can have an even more knowledgeable conversation with my friends on the left. Thank you for sharing.
We can never have an "Individualistic"-One world, (if I understand the connotation of the terms) until Everyone respects the property of others. The Individual being the smallest and most essential property to respect.
Where more than half the world is not just Pre Literate but lacking in Conscious self introspection, (according to references in MARCEL KUIJSTEN's Newest book on the on going works of Julian Jaynes), I don't see this happening anytime soon. This is not to mention, societies and cultures that are 180 degrees opposed to each other...we all must be on at least the majority of the same page...Don't you Think?
Took the test, simplest one I've seen yet. Knew where I stood, but wanted to see if the quiz is a good one. Results: Personal 80% Libertarian Economic 100% Libertarian.
The Trip up questions for me were the drug and sex-(perversions) ones, answered with a maybe. The problem with those, as I see them are the effects upon others, the temptation of others less balanced or the statement of: This is OK...which goes back to temptation. (Do we really want to encourage society to engage in these things)...I'd be happy with: (Don't Ask, Don't tell if it had to be an option).
The ideas of "fascism" of the late 19th and early 20th centuries were widespread and commonly accepted. Our National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance come from that same intellectual tradition.
For an example of the intellectual middle ground of the time, allow me to suggest one paper, "The Rising National Individualism" by Herbert Adolphus Miller, in The American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 19, No. 5 (Mar., 1914), pp. 592-605. The author did not mean "individualism" as you and I do. He referred to the tendency of intellectuals to support Nationalist Socialism as opposed to International Socialism.
"It is not at all clear just where the individual merges into the social, but we have become familiar with the contrast between Individualism and Socialism, and everyone has a fairly good idea of what is meant by the two terms. We are beginning to see that men are more closely related to the groups to which they belong- family, community, and religious organization-than to any inter- est which could be more specifically called merely personal. The object of this paper is to show that there is a rapidly developing individualism that is distinctly social, and which promises to become a powerful factor in human affairs. The earlier conflict between Socialism and Individualism is likely to be diverted to that between Socialism and Nationalism or the struggle for national individuality. At the present moment the world is organizing itself into two great camps-Socialism and Nationalism. Both are expressions of the group feeling; both are movements of revolt; both are struggles for freedom. They started from a common impulse about fifty years ago, but quickly found themselves arrayed against each other. One would break down political boundaries; the other would build them up. Socialism calls all the world one; Nationalism sets part against the rest. Socialism is economic; Nationalism sentimental. Both are rapidly becoming world-wide and must fundamentally modify statescraft."
The most surprising aspect of this paper is that it was not surprising in any way. Herbert Adolphus Miller taught sociology at Oberlin College and Ohio State University. Among his few papers was "Some Psychological Considerations in the Race Problem," (Bibliotheca Sacra 63 (1906): 352-363.) The closing paragraph of that paper opens with this:
Finally, class and race as well as sex problems arise from' lack of spiritual affinity between the groups or individuals concerned. They lack " consciousness of kind." This phrase resolves itself into consciousness of the same kind of ideals or purposes. A social relation exists as soon as there are common purposes.
The explicit collectivism is obvious, but, again, not exceptional for the times.
"Facsism" qua "fascism" is entirely an Italian phenomenon. "By extension, the word fascio came in modern Italian political usage to mean group, union, band or league. It was first used in this sense in the 1870s by groups of revolutionary democrats in Sicily, to describe themselves." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascio
D'Souza attempts to navigate the Scylla and Charybdis of the Political Left and Political Right, but you can find "Left Syndicalism" (such as the anarchists of Barcelona in the Spanish Civil War, as in Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell) and "Right Syndicalism" which is very much like "fascism" as we know it today. The problem with "Left-Right" is that it ignores conceptual essentials. The Left-Right axis was the seating arrangement of the French national assembly in the Revolution where those on the right were monarchists and those on the left were democrats. The better way to think about this is the two-dimensional Authoritarian-Libertarian X-Y axis of "The Smallest Political Quiz." (https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/qui... ) (Just note that this 35-year old recruiting tool has changed over the years as issues have come and gone from headline news.)
Had 3 black cats, (when I couldn't have a dog) all great and very close buddies till the end. One, would help me work on my Datsun 240Z's...he had to be a part of everything I did.
Moocher, my once a stray still a kick-ass for a territorial black tomcat, takes exception. Moocher advises that he buries his crap so as not to step in it while chasing out critters who trespass against his urine and bodily rubbed scent markings.
Laughing...but I was thinking of how cats bury their crap so other animals wouldn't know they were there. My apologies to all cats! It's just a metaphor kitties.
Thanks for sharing this find, Olduglycarl. Me dino never heard of Gentile until now. Libs do love to hide their own crap when not trying to erase history in general. Maybe they should be called Eraserheads based on the name of a twisted surreal movie I saw a long time ago. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074486/
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We can never have an "Individualistic"-One world, (if I understand the connotation of the terms) until Everyone respects the property of others. The Individual being the smallest and most essential property to respect.
Where more than half the world is not just Pre Literate but lacking in Conscious self introspection, (according to references in MARCEL KUIJSTEN's Newest book on the on going works of Julian Jaynes), I don't see this happening anytime soon.
This is not to mention, societies and cultures that are 180 degrees opposed to each other...we all must be on at least the majority of the same page...Don't you Think?
Knew where I stood, but wanted to see if the quiz is a good one.
Results:
Personal 80% Libertarian
Economic 100% Libertarian.
The Trip up questions for me were the drug and sex-(perversions) ones, answered with a maybe.
The problem with those, as I see them are the effects upon others, the temptation of others less balanced or the statement of: This is OK...which goes back to temptation. (Do we really want to encourage society to engage in these things)...I'd be happy with: (Don't Ask, Don't tell if it had to be an option).
For an example of the intellectual middle ground of the time, allow me to suggest one paper, "The Rising National Individualism" by Herbert Adolphus Miller, in The American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 19, No. 5 (Mar., 1914), pp. 592-605. The author did not mean "individualism" as you and I do. He referred to the tendency of intellectuals to support Nationalist Socialism as opposed to International Socialism.
"It is not at all clear just where the individual merges into the social, but we have become familiar with the contrast between Individualism and Socialism, and everyone has a fairly good idea of what is meant by the two terms. We are beginning to see that men are more closely related to the groups to which they belong- family, community, and religious organization-than to any inter- est which could be more specifically called merely personal. The object of this paper is to show that there is a rapidly developing individualism that is distinctly social, and which promises to become a powerful factor in human affairs. The earlier conflict between Socialism and Individualism is likely to be diverted to that between Socialism and Nationalism or the struggle for national individuality. At the present moment the world is organizing itself into two great camps-Socialism and Nationalism. Both are expressions of the group feeling; both are movements of revolt; both are struggles for freedom. They started from a common impulse about fifty years ago, but quickly found themselves arrayed against each other. One would break down political boundaries; the other would build them up. Socialism calls all the world one; Nationalism sets part against the rest. Socialism is economic; Nationalism sentimental. Both are rapidly becoming world-wide and must fundamentally modify statescraft."
The most surprising aspect of this paper is that it was not surprising in any way. Herbert Adolphus Miller taught sociology at Oberlin College and Ohio State University. Among his few papers was "Some Psychological Considerations in the Race Problem," (Bibliotheca Sacra 63 (1906): 352-363.) The closing paragraph of that paper opens with this:
Finally, class and race as well as sex problems arise from' lack of spiritual affinity between the groups or individuals concerned. They lack " consciousness of kind." This phrase resolves itself into consciousness of the same kind of ideals or purposes. A social relation exists as soon as there are common purposes.
The explicit collectivism is obvious, but, again, not exceptional for the times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury...
"Facsism" qua "fascism" is entirely an Italian phenomenon.
"By extension, the word fascio came in modern Italian political usage to mean group, union, band or league. It was first used in this sense in the 1870s by groups of revolutionary democrats in Sicily, to describe themselves." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascio
D'Souza attempts to navigate the Scylla and Charybdis of the Political Left and Political Right, but you can find "Left Syndicalism" (such as the anarchists of Barcelona in the Spanish Civil War, as in Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell) and "Right Syndicalism" which is very much like "fascism" as we know it today. The problem with "Left-Right" is that it ignores conceptual essentials. The Left-Right axis was the seating arrangement of the French national assembly in the Revolution where those on the right were monarchists and those on the left were democrats. The better way to think about this is the two-dimensional Authoritarian-Libertarian X-Y axis of "The Smallest Political Quiz." (https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/qui... ) (Just note that this 35-year old recruiting tool has changed over the years as issues have come and gone from headline news.)
That's okay. He was a tough outdoor cat when I first tossed him some food.
Moocher advises that he buries his crap so as not to step in it while chasing out critters who trespass against his urine and bodily rubbed scent markings.
My apologies to all cats! It's just a metaphor kitties.
Libs do love to hide their own crap when not trying to erase history in general.
Maybe they should be called Eraserheads based on the name of a twisted surreal movie I saw a long time ago.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074486/
Giovanni Gentile...no longer progressively erased from history.