There are no children so I don’t care about estate taxes. Income is the largest impact to our finances, real property next and we’re factoring that in as well but I do t know of any place that has zero real property tax.

Yes, Thank you for this information. Texas is on our short list too. I’m just not sure if I’d feel less at home there, than I might in northern FL. But this is all part of what we have to find out.

You don't have much traffic even with the flood of international tourists anxious to see the famous JB Labs?

Are you in the small city or outside it with a decent amount of land around the house and in the surroundings?

Why is that area better than the panhandle?

What kind of hurricane shutters are you getting? We have been using heavy plywood on frames locked to steel posts for storm/security window covers, but it is too much to deal with.

Traffic is no issue. We have easy access to I-95 and some of the nice aspects of a small city, but none of the negative aspects of city living.

Our area does get hurricanes, but doesn't ever seem to get a direct hit. In 2004, a couple of hurricanes hit an hour south of us. Last year, Matthew stayed just off shore. This year Irma was kind of scary, but only hit us with 105 mph winds. About 10 years ago, Tropical Storm Fay dumped 27 inches of rain in 2 days, and the water drained as quickly as it fell. I live just far enough inland (~5 miles) to not get any serious flooding or wind damage. My wife and I are getting hurricane shutters installed in a couple of weeks, after 20 years living here; prior to now, I have used styrofoam mounted with Tapcon screws and double sided foam tape; the styrofoam is unconventional, but works adequately. This area was picked by NASA as the southeasternmost place to launch from with minimal hurricane risk. We get sideswiped a fair amount, but never any serious damage. Usually the hurricane prep (a couple hundred dollars a year) and the post-hurricane repairs cost about the same. The cost of living through hurricane season is about the same as living through the snow and ice season up north.

Taxes are low, and life is affordable in this part of Florida.

There is no state or local income tax in Florida. Sales tax is 6%, with most counties (including mine) having a 0.5% sales tax add-on.

Panhandle is more like the adjacent states, except for the water access. The middle of the state is pretty empty (except Orlando), if you are looking for "rural". The Northwest is pretty rural in general. I prefer the area on the east coast around, or south of Sebastian Inlet. Killer fishing at the inlet. Things are cheap there (or they were not long ago.

How is your area affected by hurricanes? Is there a lot of traffic and congestion where you are?

And "free state" migration is a gimmick that will solve nothing. It reeks of the 19th century utopian commune mentality. You need a region that sensibly best fits your overall needs, recognizing that that is a different matter than reversing the decline of the country.

Why focus exclusively on income taxes versus other taxes like sales taxes, property taxes and estate taxes? Don't you want your total taxes for your particular circumstances to be minimized?

Being "anti" anything isn't enough. What are you for? Ayn Rand advocated reason, egoism, individual rights, and a government limited to protecting the rights of the individual through objective law. Donald Trump isn't any of that.

How does the panhandle compare with other areas? Is it still more rural?

Back in 07 I left Florida due to low pay and liberal policies. I went to Texas, started out in the Lubbock area and really liked it there but was offered more pay in the Houston area. Houston is fairly balanced with those outside the inner city area very conservative.

ok, good tip. I'll check it out. Thanks!

Not sure about the property insurance rates. They boosted ours a few years ago due to the rest of the state taking such a hit. That was about 8 years ago when hurricane force 1 winds came through here. Also, I do believe the insurance rates are handled individually, by the state insurance commissions.

If you can live out further, like the Crestview area, prices drop.

I'll have to look into that more closely. Perhaps it would help with the property insurance rates. Thanks !

I love the sound of the political atmosphere! Completely opposite of where we are now which is why I want to leave, among other reasons. But the housing prices are discouraging. I was hoping to escape some of those problems too, by going to FL.

Ah, see, that is where we part ways - I LOVE humidity! I've lived in DC suburbs, N.O. and the Bahamas. Humidity is my element. :)

What people can discern from observation is far less than the CIA, NSA, etc learns from invasive meddling. Either could be dangerous to one who flaunts obvious desirable assets. Having been close to the coast most of my life, I understand - it's logical to me;^)

I have lived in NM for over 20 years and I pay PIT, that is, personal income tax every year. I wish you were correct about no income tax in NM. You are correct about the poverty level, alas. We do have a republican governor, though.

I read in a prepper article that one should have citizenship in countryA, assets in countryB, and actually reside in country C. For max safety for yourself and your assetd

Oh, don't believe that everyone doesn't know everyone's business in the islands ! Just listen to Jimmy Buffet's "Coconut Telegraph" song to know what it can be like. I lived in the Bahamas for a couple of years with my parents when I was in middle school and remember it well. As for wanting to live near a coast, I guess it is just habit, living always within a couple of hours of the beach even if I rarely go there. But it feels more comfortable somehow not being so landlocked. I don't pretend it's logical.

We do not want any of our income to be taxed at the state level when we are able to avoid it.

I disagree. It depends on exactly how you define your terms. Personally I define Trump as "anti-establishment" and it is the Establishment of BOTH Democrats and Republicans who need to be DRAINED for this country to survive. I am anti-establishment, which to me means smaller government and bring all governance closer to the communities which they are supposed to represent.

Still looking, but the islands in the Carib are pretty welcoming to yachting folk. Lots of variety there, too.

True about the snitches. Best to leave, but where is the issue.