Would it mean getting an entire month of paid holiday time? Allahu akbar! I'll stay home and eat bacon and pulled pork all day.

Unfortunately Muslims still work during that month; they just have to fast during the daylight and pray extra hard.

Official holiday or not it's working its way into our lives in insidious ways. You've heard about the elementary school(s?) that wouldn't allow anyone a snack during Ramada-dan for fear of making the Muslim kids feel bad?

Ramadan is a whole month, and follows a lunar calendar; thus it will be earlier in our year next year.

I think this is whom Obama is referring as well.

In the short term Hitler's methods seemed to be responsible for helping a lot of desperate people. He rallied great respect from the masses for his “sacrifices must be made for the greater good of the Fatherland” type speeches. Yet, it was the progression of these same methods that utterly destroyed things in the longer term.
But that was way back then...

When Muslims encounter apostates, death is one option. Paying taxes to a Muslim authority is a second option. The apostate's conversion is the third option.

I remember reading that now that you mention it. Sometimes I confuse dates & people. Thanks for the correction.

I would never dispute what you're saying and I believe what you're saying. What I said is that I heard from two sources that appeared authoritative (one a westerner who studied the Koran intensely and one a Turkish Muslim who was speaking on the difference between religion and culture). Not having studied the Koran or knowing either of them personally I can only take them at face value while allowing that it's possible they aren't speaking the truth.

One of them described the out of context problem; I'll paraphrase. [There is nowhere in the Koran where it says that non-believers may be murdered. The passage that is often quoted is out of context and actually only applies to the area around the Kaaba and refers to non-believers who are preventing your entry.] That claim may be true or untrue, I haven't read the Koran (yet) to verify.

The second referred to the supposed Muslim custom of female genital mutilation. In actuality that was not a Muslim custom and is not described in the Koran. It was a custom of some tribes in northern Africa and they kept it after they were (forcibly?) converted. From there it spread just a little - but there are still non-muslims form that same area who still practice it. The same goes for honor killings - it came from a culture that was conquered by Muslims, not from Islam, originally.

My original intent was that there are lots and lots of people practicing an Islam that shouldn't be considered true Islam. Remember, the Koran is the literal and infallible word of god and not one word may be added or taken away. If it's not in the Koran then (theoretically) it's not part of Islam. Christianity also has millions of people who claim to be Christians but who espouse beliefs that are nowhere to be found in the Bible. Are they true Christians or are they abominations? These millions aren't just evangelical nutjobs - how much of the Catholic faith is to be found in the Bible? I was raised Catholic, most of it ain't in there.

Everything you talked about, Sharia, travel restrictions, killings, mutilations, punishment for apostasy - it's all real and it's all dangerous and it's all being done in the name of Islam and it needs to be stopped before civilization is destroyed.

All I was saying is that doesn't mean it's true Islam. Maybe I should have kept it to myself!

[{{If you want the "truth" seek out someone who lived there.}} My plan is to do that and also to try to read an English translation of the Koran. I expect that to be very hard because I can't even tolerate reading the Bible for very long and I was raised in the culture that believes in it!]

[On a side note, my group had a temp work with us one summer and she was from Egypt. On one or two occasions we talked briefly about religion. She actually said to me that she didn't think people should be allowed to choose a religious affiliation, that the entire population of the U.S. should be forced to be Muslim. I had to shut up and leave because I was nearly overcome with the desire to beat her to death on the spot as a simple measure of self-preservation.]

Actually we were paying them off as early as Washington's presidency. Jefferson finally decided that the level of piracy was no longer tolerable.

Interestingly, just today, Glenn Beck brought up the Barbary pirates. By the time Jefferson was president, the US was losing 25% of GDP to pirates. Europe was losing as well, but not that much.

East central Florida. Many of them work in the space, energy, materials, national defense, and biomedical sectors. I am at a university, so we have more than our share of internationals.

Sounds kinda like being a liberal...

Amen!

Who is John Galt?

Just think fundamentally: the principles that were the foundation of this country are abhored by Islam. Obama appeases anyone, esp. our enemies.

Forget those who forget history; those who are taught to ignore everything but what thy are taught (and what's on TV) are doomed to obamanation...

Thanks! I would definitely charge less than $25,000 per plate.

I say we start with the Shoe-Diaper "expeditionary drops" referred to elsewhere in this thread... someone needs to get a contract for some size 19 Hushpuppies (in natural, not dyed, pigskin)... and get on the phone with Pampers.

Dearborn or Flint Michigan come to mind. Parts of Oakland and LA. South Florida. Or maybe on the upper floors of the White House...