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Calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas Is A Racial Slur

Posted by $ allosaur 6 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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Pocahontas is a racial slur! Pocahontas is a racial slur!
Pocahontas is a racial slur! Pocahontas is a racial slur!
The race card pulling left hopes that if you hear that nonsense enough times, you will begin to believe it.
Remember how the race card was repeatedly pulled during the eight-year regime of socialist Obamanation to make critics shut up and sit down.
So-called journalists hope to make Trump do the same. Fat chance.
Me dino will be away from the PC for a little while.
I'm the wheels for a brother who needs an operation. Bro should be OK.
Oh, look for "Liawantha" about 15 comments down in comments section of the article.
Now me dino has something to add when I write about Pocahontas Liawatha Woo-Woo-Woo-Warren.
Suppose if I put the word "squaw" in front of all that, libs would call that both sexist and racist.
Guess only lib movie stars can say "squaw" in Westerns.
SOURCE URL: http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/27/sarah-sanders-asked-if-trumps-pocahontas-comment-is-offensive-her-response-set-the-room-on-fire/


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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 5 months ago
    Oh, gimme a break!
    If I claimed to be of the tribe of Jews directly related to Samson, which is why I wear my hair so long even though I have no evidence of that, would it be racist to call me "Strong man" or in order to defeat my rivals I need the jawbone of an ass? It would show, if anything the foolishness of my claim and nothing more. I love Trump's ability to toss in an amusing word or two at even the most serious occasion. It's part of his charm.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 6 years, 5 months ago
    Elizabeth Warren brought this on herself by claiming to be descended from the indigenous people of the Americas. The real slur was her false representation to teach certain classes and win an election. The liberals and the press jumped on the statement by President Trump for saying what many of us already thought and knew to be the truth. Next time around she might claim Viking ancestry!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 5 months ago
    Funny, the left is feeling a little guilty lately so they lash out at the rest of us.
    Silly liberals, race is for pagan mystics. No such thing as different "races" of Conscious Human beings, including those that could be, if they chose to be.
    Now, for non-conscious humanoids?...there are probably 100's of different races within that category.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 5 months ago
    Hey, when Hillary Clinton can get away with saying that she protects women and listens to them when they cry "Rape!", liberals can get away with anything.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 5 months ago
    It’s unfair to compare Pocahontas with Elizabeth Warren. Warren is a statist power hungry pig, while Pocahontas was an upstanding indian
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 5 months ago
    I understand that the reference was to "Fauxahontas" rather than Pocahontas; however, I understand that it is supposed to be pronounced
    "Folkahontas". However, as I understand it (and I
    learned 3 years of French in 2), faux is a French word meaning "false", and is pronounced
    "foh"; if it were to be followed by a vowel sound,
    the "x" is supposed to be pronounced as
    "z"; therefore the invention of that satirical word is not a very good idea in the first place. Besides, Trump went on and pronounced it as
    "Pocahontas". It was apparently intended as a
    dig at Elizabeth Warren, but it was clumsily done.
    Again, Trump was gauche and put his foot in
    his mouth.
    Does this make him a racist? No; but I wish
    he would learn to think more before he speaks.
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    • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
      Yes he said "Pocahontas". I don't think she pretended to be a French Indian; I don't remember if she even claimed a particular tribe.

      The fact that everyone knew who Trump was talking about without his mentioning her other name shows that it was not clumsily done, his delivery was quite good and showed that he had thought about how to phrase it (unlike some of his other antics such during the primary debates). Most people got the joke because they have been laughing at her for years; they're laughing more now because the setting was a new and unexpected twist, and because she became so hysterical over it, with the usual irrelevant progressive outburst screaming "racist". It doesn't solve any big problems in government but it serves as an entertaining side show to temporarily relieve some tension. Back to work.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
    It's just being a jackass using generally the same techniques he'd use to get rubes to buy a timeshare, a MLM scheme, or class on how to get rich. I don't know or care which exact brand of jackassery it is. The main thing to know is it gets the morons excited: ooohh fight! fight! fight! race! ways to blame my problems on others!! It's all nonsense.
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    • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
      If you mean Trump at the ceremony it wasn't a bad joke and was well delivered, unlike many of his tweets. It didn't sound like he was trying to get "morons" to do anything. Whatever one thinks of Trump's style, he has caught on to the importance of not granting a moral sanction to his enemies, which is why progressives are in constant hysteria over it. They are accustomed to being treated with dhimmitude as they posture as morally superior and expect to be treated with deference for it.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 5 months ago
        I'm starting to think that Trump may be a master manipulator of the media. He may be so good that it has taken me this long to start to figure it out(?) Not sure yet. I'll see how much more he's accomplished in another year before I'm sure, though.
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
        The logical contortions people will put themselves into to explain just being rude are amazing. [Sarcasm]Or maybe he using racial epithets in a complex way to make to a complex statement about moral sanction, and the attention it gets from unsophisticated bigots is just an accident. [/Sarcasm] Just saying the words aloud makes me laugh. It looks like just being an ass, and that's exactly what it is.
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        • Posted by $ 6 years, 5 months ago
          I very much doubt the Navajos Trump were honoring were at all offended by Trump putting down a lying phony part-Indian out to scam votes..
          I really get a kick out of Trump putting down Sen. Blumenthal lying about serving in Vietnam.
          Me dino was drafted during 1969 but never went to Vietnam. Though I consider myself lucky for that, I would never dishonor the true sacrifice of a real Vietnam vet by claiming to be his or her equal.
          The fact that lib voters gave Blumenthal a pass for that lowlife chicanery is beyond disgraceful. Sickening for a fact.
          I look forward to Trump ripping into that cur again. The public needs to be re-re-re-reminded of Warren's lies also.
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          • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
            One of the veterans has spoken out that he was not offended. Why should he be? The progressive formula is wrong. The joke was on the hysterical BSRM trying to exploit their history, not on them. Trump praised the Indian veterans for what they did in WWII, and made it clear that he prefers them to the phony BSRM Pocahontas, as we all do. Pockey tried to manipulate them into turning against Trump and it backfired.
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
            "I very much doubt the Navajos Trump were honoring were at all offended "
            I don't think so either. I'm not offended, although I'm embarrassed we have a clickbait/troll president. If the goal were publicity, and it probably isn't for the Navajos, President Trump did them a huge favor. He's the godawful trainwreck that causes people to learn the name of some rural town they'd never look at otherwise. I never would have heard about the president honoring some Native Americans otherwise. I'm not into it, and I don't care about his trolling. He'd be the guy who comes into a perfectly nice conversation about Star Trek on a message board and finds away to derail the conversation by getting people upset about some little insecurity-- race, whether they went to a good school, whether they make enough money. That would annoying on a message board, but he's doing with with the office of the POTUS! What a disgrace.

            "Me dino was drafted during 1969 but never went to Vietnam."
            My dad was drafted, thought he might go to Vietnam, but went to the Jordanian Crisis, which never materialized, so he was safe while his friends weren't. He said he had no say in the matter. Even though he was drafted, they grilled him and even his acquaintances about all the protests in Madison, but he wasn't into politics at all. He said boot camp was tough. They made you make your bed so tight you could bounce a quarter of it and gave you hell if you didn't. They screamed at him, "how do you like Budweiser now," and got him into shape. That part of it would have done me some good. I heard about it from all my relatives. The protesters and police acted stupidly. A protester beaten by the police became mayor eight years later and is our mayor today.

            I think it's b/c I'm over 40 I start to think about the things they told me about those times. A few things are very much the same, but so much as change and mostly for the better.
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            • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 5 months ago
              While Trump's style is certainly hard to take at times, he is a master of getting media attention. The MSM was so eager to jump on the so called "racist slur" that they gave him the attention he needed to preemptively blast Schumer and Pelosi for ducking his invitation to discuss the budget and how to avoid a government shutdown.
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                "a master of getting media attention. The MSM was so eager to jump on the so called "racist slur" that they gave him the attention he needed to preemptively blast Schumer and Pelosi for ducking his invitation to discuss the budget and how to avoid a government shutdown."
                I agree he's a master of attention and the media fall for it completely. I don't think it's strategic though. The president doesn't need antics to get attention for an issue like a budget meeting the same way you need antics to keep people from channel surfing from an infomercial. His supporters, for reasons I don't understand, bend into contortions to make the attention-seeking antics part of a greater plan. But it's really more like a child misbehaving to get attention.
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                • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 5 months ago
                  Yeah, yeah, yeah, CG. You disparage President Trump every chance you get. "Click bait/troll president", "child misbehaving", "clown", "train wreck", blah blah blah, etc. etc. etc. over and over and over. Constantly spewing this left wing mantra clap-trap doesn't make any of it true, as much as you wish it all were. Then you say things like: "I'm not into it, and I don't care about his trolling." Uh huh.

                  Here you say: "His supporters, for reasons I don't understand...". The explanation is quite simple. You told us you are a Democrat and voted for Hillery, which IMHO, clearly indicates there's a LOT you don't understand. Actually, I think you "get" more than you're willing to admit. Stay with it, CG, and you'll keep picking up more and more. I learn new things in the Gulch all the time. You will, too.

                  I'm sure it's safe to say none of here think President Trump is any kind of god or John Galt, but he's a long way from a President Thompson.

                  Oh, one last thing regarding the Schumer/Pelosi ducking out ploy. I thought making sure their empty seats remaining at the table with their name tags for the press to take full notice of was hilarious AND brilliant.
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                    Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                    "Stay with it, CG, and you'll keep picking up more and more. I learn new things in the Gulch all the time. You will, too."
                    [Sarcasm]The fact that you're defending President Trump shows there's a lot you don't understand, but your not buying everything politicians say shows there is hope for you. If you stick with it and keep reading my posts, you'll learn a little more each time, each time noticing more words and less blah blah blah.. It won't be about hilarious ways to make people look bad. You'll begin to learn behind the games of showing people who's to blame and who deserves credit, there are actually people working and getting stuff done. Stick with it.[/Sarcasm]
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                    • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 5 months ago
                      A number of items:

                      1) F-Y-I, in case you suspected such, I didn't down vote any of your posts as I think you often have something to offer.
                      2) I'm in the winter of my lifespan and have witnessed a lot of "games" so I'm a lot harder to fool than you may think.
                      3) President Trump makes me smile far more than he makes me frown. He's witnessed a lot of "games", too, and just doesn't always play along with the rules or the agenda set by his detractors.
                      4) The swamp has a resilience to being drained, but at least Trump seems to be up to the task so far.
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                      • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                        "have witnessed a lot of "games" so I'm a lot harder to fool than you may think."
                        I know. I was saying, sort of snidely, that behind the masters of hilarious and brilliant schemes to make people look bad in meetings, there are hardworking and brilliant people doing actual the work.
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                • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 5 months ago
                  The media purposely ignore his more sober pronouncements, because they don't feed the image the media all seem to want to promote. Acting absurd seems to work in getting attention, so as a pragmatist, Trump deliberately throws out zingers when he wants the cameras to focus on him to give him a brief opportunity to say something serious. Sad that he feels type cast, but so long as the reality star role still grabs attention, don't expect to see him change anytime soon.
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                    Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                    Do you have a recent clip, perhaps one not covered by the MSM, where he sounds like this?
                    https://youtu.be/0-w47wgdhso
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                    • Posted by dark_star 6 years, 5 months ago
                      Really?
                      Are you trying to say:
                      That you had to go back nearly 40 years to find a clip of Mr. Trump "sounding" presidential?
                      That it's impossible to find any recent evidence of a somber and professional President Trump?
                      Really?

                      I think, perhaps, you don't want to admit that he's being unfairly characterized by the press in general as well as by individuals like yourself. Because if you did, you'd have to admit he's not a bad President at all.
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                    • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 5 months ago
                      Here's a recent speech which I think more genuinely characterizes him as the consummate businessman, comfortable and confident in selling the U.S. as a trustworthy and reliable business partner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oCvy...
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                        Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                        " I think more genuinely characterizes him as the consummate businessman"
                        This is the normal President Trump that doesn't make the headlines. Thanks.

                        You can tell he gets a little odd when he goes off script, but he clearly doesn't exhibit any bizarre Trump-like confusing rambling or attention seeking. He's just being a normal president and business person.
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        • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
          It was a good joke at the expense of an obnoxious, rude, race-obsessed person who deserved it. There was nothing racist about what Trump said; that accusation was only the usual progressive hysteria from those who didn't know what else to do.

          I don't think Trump has conceptualized the principle of not sanctioning his enemies, but he has sensed that refusing to pander to them is a good thing, and so do those who react positively to it.
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        • Posted by dark_star 6 years, 5 months ago
          So now Pocahontas is a racial epithet? How is this? Is it a "racial" epithet simply because it was said in front of certain group of people? Or perhaps its just that President Trump has no right to make any truthful analogies regarding a proven unabashed, lying, member in good standing of the Democrat party?

          Oh and lets not ignore your "rudeness" in calling anyone agreeing with President Trump "unsophisticated bigots". I guess that's OK.....
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
            "Pocahontas is a racial epithet?"
            I have no idea. I find the attention-seeking and nastiness repugnant though. Its just being a jackass, and apparently there are enough nasty people for whom this is their chance to be nasty vicariously. It's disgusting.
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            • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
              You have no idea? No it isn't racism. It was joke at Sen. Pockey's expense. She has been called "Pocahontas" for years because of her own obsession with race and her false claims to be a minority "native American". That is why people have been laughing at her for years and calling her "Pocahontas". No that is not racism.
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 5 months ago
      LOL! OK, CircuitGuy, you really made me laugh. Actually, I don't think it's "the same techniques" but that's good stuff, all the same. "rubes" - haha!
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
        "I don't think it's "the same techniques" but that's good stuff, all the same."
        The part that's the same is being a train wreck that people look at out of morbid fascination. I'm sure there are more steps after that.
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        • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 5 months ago
          Well, I used to say "If Trump just builds the wall" he gets my vote in 2020.

          But honestly, his DEMOLISHING of "Progressive Tagging/Labeling" has earned my next vote.
          Finally, someone who can withstand being TARGETED by the media and throw it back at them...

          It's refreshing. In an Atlas Shrugged, Speech at the base of the Stairs at the Dance kind of way!
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
            Is there a longer article that describes what this means?

            The wall thing always seemed like a metaphor. We had been building fencing for years with new sensors. People coming in illegally had been falling. So I always took his "big beautiful wall" as a metaphor for getting serious about enforcing the immigration laws after decades of looking the other way.

            ""Progressive Tagging/Labeling""
            I don't know what this means. It sounds like he's just being a pure jackass. If there really is some complex method to the madness, I'd be interested. If it's just that you have to listen real carefully and it turns into the D'anconia speech, I'll probably never get it.
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            • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 5 months ago
              CircuitGuy, please read their bible. Saul Alinsky, rules for radicals. Label your enemy to make them undefendable, accuse your enemy of what you have done, so it weakens their attack to "You too".

              Try looking up border crossings in a SERIOUS way. Obama relabelled TURNBACKS (people stopped at the border and turned back) as deportations. So he could claim the highest deportation #s while letting more people in. At one point, our government was publishing the areas of the "wall/fence" that would NOT be under surveillance, allowing them to walk right in.

              But a wall should be FINANCIAL as well. You get caught here illegally, we find out how long you have been here, calculate what it cost you to live. And make sure we EXTRACT the taxes you owe, plus penalties, etc before we deport you! If you strip a few Illegals of ALL of the money they made here, and JAIL them for not paying taxes, send their family members back. BELIEVE ME, you will slow down the rate that they come over.

              The problem with Surveillance is that the next president, like Obama, will just turn it off. Simply change the parameters, and let it be known. People will start crossing in massive numbers. We offer FREE THINGS with no fear of punishment for coming over and taking them.
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              • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                "Label your enemy to make them undefendable, accuse your enemy of what you have done, so it weakens their attack to "You too"."
                Yes. Politics is disgusting.

                "Try looking up border crossings in a SERIOUS way."
                I guess we disagree on the facts. I heard illegal immigration was down and most of it was people overstaying visa. It's probably hard to characterize.

                "You get caught here illegally,"
                The whole things seems impractical. We have 15 million people illegally, and we've been just looking the other way. It would be hard to jail every executive who had a consistent stream of undocumented workers on her watch. I wouldn't want to jail all the workers who've been here all these years illegally. There has to be a way to bring them out of the shadows, give them rights to be here, and then somehow (maybe more surveillance, walls, or something) stop it from happening again. I don't see why this should be so hard. We need to be able to trust our president not to intentionally undermine the law. (I think the thing about President Obama is absurd.) This problem should be solvable. But it seems like we don't want to solve it. We (not you and me, but the gov't) want to look the other way.
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                • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 5 months ago
                  okay, I am assuming you don't cheat on your taxes.
                  Why not? The punishment exceeds the crime.
                  The point is that we don't have to JAIL ALL of them.

                  We PUBLICLY Jail and punish a few... And they will scatter.
                  Funny, if I ran the show, I would CHARGE Them 2x the cost of deportation.

                  The problem is the LAWS need to be the final wall. No matter how you end up in Russia without papers.
                  You are SOL. They can and will lock you away for life. How do you think the illegal immigration problem looks?

                  And the real number of illegals is like 30M... And Debt (here) vs. Deficit (crossing the border). I dont want illegal immigration lower. I want it as close to non-existent as it can get.

                  The govt is driven by special interests. And Dems want voters, and Reps want cheaper labor. Illegals drive labor costs down! Oh, and the government wants bodies, because bodies because you will eventually produce tax revenue generators at some level.

                  Despite like 40% of illegals getting some for of government aid...
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                  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                    "The govt is driven by special interests."
                    I actually think the nation state is going away, and having boundaries where people cannot cross, artificially propping up prices by keeping willing buyers and sellers apart is bad. I want them to move toward mostly open immigration. So much value is in computer data now, that flies across borders without a tax anyway. I see borders as a vestige of a period of time when roads could connect former city-states well but were not good at taking people long distances or over geographic boundaries. My point is it's not only special interests that want open immigration.

                    But I really hate any policy of looking the other way. I think it erodes the concept of the law. So I approve of President Trump enforcing immigration laws. Congress should change them, IMHO, making it much easier for people to come visit, work, attend events, take classes, and do whatever they want that's legal and not demanding a handout.
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                    • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 5 months ago
                      Do you believe in property rights?

                      So, as a citizen, we DIFFER on this. See, I am second generation American, and my wife is from former Yugoslavia (Macedonia). I've been to Russia a few times to hire programmers. I can tell you how it ends. Not well. My wife speaks 5 languages and has visited every major continent. I've been everywhere from Norway, through most of europe, all Americas, and Australia. (China is on my list, Africa/Egypt were scrubbed). You could say I have traveled a bit. I think I am about 8 states shy of having stayed in every state( HI and PR were hit).

                      Social Mores determine a culture. IQ and Empathy determine the depth/quality of a culture.

                      As IQ goes down, violence tends to go up. Brutality and Might make Right are the rule of law. Also, cheating goes up, and so does corruption.

                      In Russia I learned there is ZERO correlation between poverty and crime! In fact, in Russia, it is inverted. The wealthier you are, the more likely you are a criminal! The poor don't commit the same level of violent crimes and robberies (nobody has anything to take). Also, their form of punishment is almost barbaric. But it keeps people honest.

                      So, Macedonia is being overrun by Albanians. Now Albanians have already ruined and corrupted their government. Now everything in Macedonia is printed in 2 languages. Albanians are not bad people, but the bad ones among them have learned the system. Back home, the punishment was swift. Here... They argue the difference in the wording between Albanian and Macedonian confused them. They are given another warning, and let free. It is BY FAR less safe there now than 20 years ago. Drugs are rampant, sex slave trade is active. It's like a different world. And now, the incoming government is used as a tool to persecute the outgoing. We have an asylum seeking friend who was in the government, and their family is continuously harrassed, etc.

                      Polite society gets pushed aside. They are simply outnumbered by the masses. Society degrades to the lower level. Simply revision to the mean.

                      Why would I want people here who have an IQ of 70, that will feel left out by society, and easily converted into some form of criminal, because with that IQ, they will NEVER excel in America. But, they can survive as a criminal for a while. Also, they will vote for handouts, of course...

                      I encourage you to watch some Stefan Molynuex.
                      I want to visit EVERY culture. And see it. I don't want them all blended.

                      I don't travel as much any more. It really has gotten to be less safe. France and Rome were beautiful when I went. I see the videos now... How could you want that here?
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                      • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
                        Low intelligence is not the cause, let alone the only cause, of violence. How people act depends on the content of the ideas, whether simple or advanced. The German Weimar Republic that created Nazism was one of the best educated countries in the world. Conversely, there are a lot of honest, hard working people who are not well-educated or intellectually sophisticated. You should read Leonard Peikoff's The Ominous Parallels for the role of philosophical ideas in the formation of Nazism and the parallels with the evolution of statism in this country.
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                      • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                        The only part I followed was about IQ predicting criminal behavior. (I really apologize for not following the rest.)

                        I don't see any test as sacred, but I can see ability on the test could be correlated with many things such as crime. I think you're saying if IQ is correlated with honest behavior, then we could have a IQ test at the gate, as it were, reducing the number of criminals entering. I do not think this is practical. Also, if IQ and honest behavior are not very tightly correlated, the test would let in a lot of bad people and deny entry to a lot of good people. Whether we like it or not, I think the world will homogenize geographically. France won't be a rich country and Ethiopia won't be a poor country. Instead of you have rich and poor people everywhere. IMHO you cannot stop it, and I do not even think it's desirable. Maybe it will lead to people living in little gated enclaves, and I'll wish we could go back. I'm not sure how it will play out. It's very difficult for me to see nations staying separate now that we have jet travel and the Internet.
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                        • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 5 months ago
                          Watch some Stefan...
                          Where food falls from trees, and you dont have to wear clothes... IQ is not important.

                          In the nothern regions, the higher IQ people planned better, did better, and selective breeding made them Higher IQ and ultimately richer.

                          If you take an area like norway. REMOVE EVERYTHING. You could put all the sudanese you want there. And tell me. How long before it will be a rich country?

                          Rich nations earned their wealth over time, by investing, and recognizing the intelligence of working together.

                          Coming to america in 1500s was no picnic. Not even in the 1700s. It was only through LOTS of sacrifice, delayed gratification, and desire to improve things for the next generation. Things low IQ people don't want to do!

                          But if you look at your children as something you can sell, or abuse, especially your young girls. You aint building what we built.

                          We should NOT LET ANYONE in our country permanently who does not add to the greater good. And EVERY country should have this rule.

                          Instead, the USA steals the brightest from all over, and their origin countries will NEVER get fixed.

                          Watch this:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzf...

                          And ask if your open borders is the way to fix this?
                          Or if we move to Nuclear Energy, and help provide them with energy, clean water, and the ability to build their own infrastructure where they are!
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                          • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
                            Rationality and intelligence are always important for human life. Life is not automatic, it requires thinking to make the right choices. A primitive form of survival is in many ways more difficult in harsher climates, but those who never progresses beyond eating pineapples that fall off a tree are arrested at that level and still cannot contend with disease and attacks by animals, rival tribes, or rival anything else, let alone develop an advanced standard of living and a technological economy under which the rights of the individual are protected.

                            Civilization advanced by freeing man from submission to the tribe, not intelligently "working together". The social system of capitalism protecting the rights of the individual and based on voluntary trade made it possible to "work together" for mutual benefit and profit. Individuals have a right to come here as long as they come to work for their own lives and respect the rights of others. They are human beings with the same rights regardless of where they come from. The conservative notion of requiring an immigrant or any other individual to serve the "greater good" is anti-American collectivism They don't have a right to come as criminals, or spread disease, or live off the welfare state in whole or part, or impose socialism through what amounts to a back door foreign invasion, but there is no moral requirement to come for our benefit or to stay in some foreign swamp for the benefit of its tribe no matter what their intelligence is.
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                          • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 5 months ago
                            Northern Europe urbanized and industrialized first for a variety of reasons. I have heard the idea the high latitudes led to industry, but I don't think the evidence supports that.

                            I think you're taking it even a step further and saying people from more equatorial regions are inferior. This is just naked racism.

                            Contrary to what you're saying about USA siphoning the producers off and causing conditions to deteriorate in other places, it's not happening. Most of the world is improving.
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                            • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years, 5 months ago
                              LOL. Review IQ requirements to live in different places. Invention is the mother of necessity. I mentioned NO race.

                              Did you watch that video? He literally EXPLAINS it.

                              There is also a great video on how COOKING food leads to developing a larger brain (more neurons): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7_XH...

                              So, imagine living in an area where enough food is ready to eat (no canning needed), and the people don't have to plan ahead for seasons without food. There actually may be something where they are skinny and have a lower IQ because they are not consuming enough calories to develop both the body and the brain, and natural selection kicks in. Strength helps more than planning ahead.

                              Don't take my word for it. And I am NOT suggesting it is about race, but about ENVIRONMENT. Parents who put their young children on low cholesterol/low fat diets (accidentally because the parents stopped eating as much of it), caused an IQ drop of up to 15 pts in their kids. That's ENVIRONMENT, and it makes sense.
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                • Posted by ewv 6 years, 5 months ago
                  They don't have to be "brought out of the shadows". They are in the streets and in government offices demanding government benefits and that their illegality be ignored. That isn't in the "shadows". A lot of all kinds of lawbreakers do deliberately hide in the "shadows"; the solution isn't to grant them amnesty so they no longer have to hide from law.
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